"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

Wow that's way older than I realized!

If you look at it from God's perspective, assuming he exists, you have all of these groups of people who claim to worship him, and the biggest ones all have different holy books, and all of those holy books are flawed. They're even self-contradictory. I think God would be offended if people thought he was responsible for those piles of trash.

On the other hand, if God created our cosmos, surely he'd at least approve of people trying to understand it compared to boring people who ignore the world and just chant the same things over and over.

If god is real im going to try and kill him for creating a world with such evil happening to innocent people.

Any god who creates a place where babies are raped and murdered deserves to die.

This is why I refer to myself as agnostic instead of atheist. I do not see an evidence of God as stated in the Bible, Torah, Koran or such religions. However I cannot prove that a different type of God does not exist. Something - called God - could be responsible for the beginning of everything. I don't see that God as being too concerned about humans and what they do or don't do. God and religion are not the same thing. Religions are entirely man made as a societal control mechanisms and abused by leadership greed.

Plus if this is the world he made he's demiurge anyways and fuck that guy.

I'd like to subscribe to your Creative Eternal Tortures newsletter.

Here's $30,000 just in case. Thanks for the warning!

A fellow mormon?

I doubt that, as my variant of that religion says 20000 pounds.

Well, my religion says if you give Mycodesuck money you'll spend eternity listen to political speeches. Enjoy the dilema.

There’s a whole lot more Hindus..

Ummm... No, christanity is the largest religion in the world.

Also:

"If there is a God, he will have to beg my forgiveness."

• Unknown victim of the Holocaust, carved into the wall of a Mauthausen cell[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauthausen_concentration_camp

The platypus. Seriously, wtf?

If god is real, he very likely doesn't give a shit about humans. If you interviewed him, he'd say that all of that stuff you attribute to him was obviously made up by humans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fPRO2SApO8

god seems pretty wrathful and amoral towards mortals, even uses ANGELS to do his dirty work.

Or... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/optpH7nBh7w

Daddy Yahwey was a rollin stone 🎶

Right? My religion tortures you for not being on our side I rather choose nothing than worship that kind of evil.

These pricks get off on seeing others suffer, while proclaiming to covet the virtues of a book they've never read.

unless the religions are gatekeeping the real knowledge behind their dogma and twisting it, so they can gain more secular power.

What's wrong with Ganesh? He's a pretty cool guy

R'amen

Based I think?

Braise Him pho-ever, r'Amen

It never seems to occur to them that if there was an entity so powerful that it could literally create an entire Universe out of nothing, and then monitor the progress of ever single element of that Universe, then that entity would be far too complex for our puny human minds to even comprehend.

And yet there are those among us who would dare to claim to know exactly what that all-powerful entity is thinking, and what it wants from us, and oh, yeah, it always costs a lot of money, gimme.

A long time ago, I had a friend bitching that people weren't getting all dressed up at her church. I've always said that if God was real, they wouldn't give a rats ass what people wore to church.

Gotta love Pascal's mugger

Yep Ancient Egypt had it right with their religion. You die and Osiris says hi.

Everything is proof of god!

If you understand nothing and refuse to explore and learn, that is

Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.

The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," says Man, "The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

Dear Christian, ... p.s. your God is obsessed with foreskins, you lose either way.

FWIW... The obsession with foreskins is more of a USAian thing from some corn flake capitalist. I think christians outside USA are generally uncut. It's a national thing, not a religious thing.

Christianity legalized the foreskin almost immediately. It's still legal today. TBH I don't think christianity would have grown so popular otherwise.

... Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.” The apostles and elders met to consider this question. After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are... It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God..." - Acts 15

What if, after you die, you find out you’re dead, and you’ve wasted your precious time all along?

I mean, what does it mean to "waste time" in this context? There's a certain existential dread that comes with the mystery of death - really the mystery of consciousness generally speaking - and we all cope with it as best we can. I don't think a ritualized means of managing one's anxiety is time wasted. If your genuflections to a carving of a guy on a crucifix sooth your own anxieties of loss-of-self, more power to you.

But it does feel a bit like someone asking "What if you stepped on a crack and then it really did break your mother's back?" I mean, that would be very scary and sad. I can't see the correlation between these two things. I'm not going to painstakingly tip-toe down the sidewalk out of a concern I don't take seriously.

The phrase "there is no hate like Christian love" isn't going away till the Christians do.

Or: God is real, he's as vindictive, petty, and cruel as the Bible portrays him to be and anyone like that you definitely don't want whatever their idea of heaven would be.

"It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they've been fooled."

Pascals Wager was already stupid in the 17th century

The broad existential question was interesting. It's part of a conversation about tail risks and cost-benefit calculations that you can apply to much more than just religion.

What I find more curious about Pascal's Wager, from a theological perspective, is the logical consequence. Namely, that you're obligated to find some kind of theological average between all known religious practices to maximize your own personal safety. And that theological average largely boils down to generic positive aphorisms -

• Do Unto Others
• Live Charitably
• Value Your Own Life And The Lives Of Others
• Reject Base Cravings
• Abhor Materialist Social Hierarchies
• Turn The Other Cheek
• Men Are More Important Than Women
• Slaughter A Live Animal To Appease Primal Forces
• Wash Your Asshole
• Remember That Old People Are Smarter Than You

Shit we should already know about and are inclined towards anyway. When you take a holistic view of religious studies, it peels away the pastiche and reveals the common truths of human existence. And Pascal's Wager, as a thought experiment, helps navigate people to this point from an abstract logical framework.

I think it falls under "those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it". Each one thinking their the first to come up with this scenario (or act like it, after they saw it online, tv, movie...) likely doesn't hold education (specifically history, philosophy, science, etc) in high regard.

If I were evil and wanted to corrupt a bunch of religious idiots I would tell them that they didn't have to be decent people, that they could just do what they wanted because a zombie god died for their sins. That would lead them to worship the wealthy and not care about their fellow humans, the suffering would be everywhere. Do you think that could work?

That's pretty much the way it works now, so, yeah, start your own religion.

This is along the lines I think.

If the "God" that exists is the one that has allowed some of the absolute abhorrent acts of the world and condones the hate that some of his followers display then I don't want to go to his idea of eternal heaven or whatever 🤷‍♀️

That's what people don't get. Threatening that you don't get to go to the heaven of some guy you don't agree with anyway is just not that threatening 😅🤷‍♀️ it's like trying to threaten a vegan that they're never going to be allowed to go to a steakhouse.

(Me in the corner injecting heroin into my dick)

"Pls be Slaanesh, pls be Slaanesh, pls be Slaanesh"

What if god is a giant bunny rabbit?

I hope it's Ratatoskr