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Consuming fruit and a cup of coffee a day can halve risk of unhealthy cell ageing, study suggests (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 52 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It’s good, it’s bad, it’s good, it’s bad, it’s…

Fuck it, life is better with coffee, and fruit.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Nothing is 100% good or 100% bad. Even oxygen has problems that are caused in the body.

    Coffee, like many things, can cause some health issues, but also some health benefits.

    The problem is that the headlines only talk about this specific effect studied. When you get down the details, it's a lot less clear cut then "drink coffee = live longer" or "drink coffee = die younger"

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    • [+] 29 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah I came here to say 'study sponsored by Starbucks'

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    They were funded by one and found success in another.

    They would have made sense if one worked and they were funded by the same industry

    Would have made sense if they simply found success in their results and published them

    They said that it works when combining coffee and fruit. Which one paid for it? Both would have told the other industry to pay for the study. It's definitely only coffee or "fruit".

    One was actually meaningful. Guessing fruit was actually beneficial and coffee paid the bill but it's definitely a red flag to include both in the finding. Either coffee is good and fruit is meaningless, or the other way around.

    Tbh, "fruit" is such a large category that there's no way they studied every fruit. They "studied coffee" and added "fruit" so they could post a benefit. I love coffee but this study is bullshit.

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    • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I drink coffee and eat fruit every morning. I’ll let yall know if I die early on account of it!

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Halve, not have

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Must be the coffee and fruit shutting my brain down already. I didn’t even catch that. Now I gotta live longer accidentally doing the right thing!

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    • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Based on my fruit and coffintake, I’m living forever. Ignore the alcohol.

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    • [–] 18 points 5 months ago* (25 children)

    it blows my mind how many people don't eat any fruit or veg at all.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (24 children)

    Veg, yes, but what does fruit really give you except fiber and glucose?

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (12 children)
    • antioxidants
    • vitamins
    • minerals
    • enzymes
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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (8 children)

    More than what's in meat and vegetables? 🤔

    It's there any fruit with more vitamins and such things than you can find in a corresponding vegetable or meat?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (7 children)

    Complex answers there due to bioavailability, combinations, and palatability. Cow liver has lots of vitamin A but it is liver. Carrots have a lot of A if you eat good fats with them. Sea Buckthorn has more than you need but you also get v.C and lots of other nutrients and it's a candy.

    Also as primates we are built for fruit.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Complex indeed.

    Could you explain a bit more about what being "built for fruit" means? Built more for fruit than other things or just built to "handle" it?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    Well it’s just a major part of many primate species’ diets, including hominids. Your mileage may vary depending on gut flora etc but humans eat a lot of fruits in general.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Just because we do as humans doesn't mean it's the most nutritious. Look at the diet of koalas for example.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    "Nutrition" comes in many forms; I am fine with high density antioxidants and vitamins (more dense in some fruits than most if not all veg and meat) that are candy.

    You have a strange opposition to fruit. Go prove that people can have a healthy diet without fruit and come back with the evidence.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    You have a strange opposition to fruit. Go prove that people can have a healthy diet without fruit and come back with the evidence.

    LCHF. My mother's been on it for over a decade, never felt better, she says. Lots of ailments she had went away as well.

    I'm not opposed to fruit, there's stuff in fruit we need. I'm just saying they're probably not the best source of those things because it comes with the cost of extra stuff we don't need, like sugars and fiber.

    You can probably get more of those antioxidants and vitamins in berries rather than fruit, going by the colloquial definition of "fruit".

    I'm also not in LCHF, but I never eat fruit and I'm healthy af. Only on special occasions, like maybe a melon, or a mango or something. Never regularly.

    I have a slight iron deficiency but that's from birth and fruit won't help me there, I imagine.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Not including berries in "fruit" is weird AF.

    Saying we don't need fibre is just deeply misinformed.

    Anecdotal evidence, universalized, is often just rationalization. I believe you about your experience. I don’t think you can generalize accurately withit.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    Not including berries in "fruit" is weird AF.

    I said in the traditional definition. Fruit includes berries as well in the scientific definition, yes.

    Was everyone using the scientific definition all along? Kind of unusual but I'll take it.

    Anecdotal evidence

    Excuse me but it doesn't matter in this case based on what you asked me.

    You asked, that I prove that people can have a healthy diet without fruit, which would imply that your hypothesis is that you can't. So I give you two examples that disprove the hypothesis, and you reject them? That's not the scientific method, sir.

    All that aside, I'm glad you believe me, because I have no reason to lie of course.

    Vegetables are essential, and I eat those. Had I not eaten them, I think we wouldn't be having this discussion. 😅 I'd be eating a lot of supplements or be dead or dying.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    vitamins

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    If I eat 1 egg a day I get a substantial part of my daily intake of every vitamin except C, which I can then find rich in vegetables instead. Veggies have more vitamins than fruit, usually, as far as I understand. E.g. vitamin C, much higher content in broccoli than, say, an orange.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Fiber is already more than enough reason to eat fruit, why are you searching for more?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Fiber isn't something the body can break down, so what are you getting from it?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    That's exactly what makes it good for you, it's not totally digested

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    What you're getting is [the fact] that it's not digested?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Not by chewing nor acid stomach, but by gut bacteria, and if you meant "if" instead of "is"... Well, mainly slowing down the digestion which makes you absorb more of nutrients, regulates sugar in the blood and more 1001 stuff

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    And can you not get that from vegetables instead?

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    • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Can anyone find the study?

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago

    It seems this story is based on an unpublished paper abstract presented at European Congress on Obesity 2026 titled "Higher Dietary Polyphenol Intake Is Associated with a Lower Risk of Short Telomeres: Evidence from the SUN Cohort Study".

    You can see it in the conference program.

    https://eco2026.org/assets/docs/programme-book.pdf

    And here is another reference.

    https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-a-european-congress-on-obesity-unpublished-conference-abstract-on-association-between-higher-dietary-polyphenol-intake-and-lower-risk-of-short-telomeres/

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    As far as I can tell it's not yet published. Why on earth would this be reported if it hasn't made it through the publishing process? Lol

    Here is a reaction to the findings that were presented at the conference mentioned in the op article.

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    • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    What about a strawberry flavored monster??? Is that the same or...?

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    • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    How about substituting fruit with a cigarette?

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    • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Too bad coffee tastes like trash to this guy.

    Guess I'll die.

    I do often eat some fruit, though.

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    • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    But I drink black tea, n bunch of fruits.

    Is green tea any good??

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    • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Aah fruit. My favourite fruit.

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    [–] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I'm in Canada and just about everyone I know love Tim Hortons, a shitty coffee fast food place that is everywhere here.

    A cup of coffee to most of these people is a large double double (20oz coffee with two sugar and two cream) but most people tolerate the sugar and fat so much that they'll up it with more sugar and cream. I know a few people who do triple triple or start going higher.

    I once offered to buy a nurse at a hospital a coffee, she was a short, petite middle aged woman and I thought she'd ask for a smaller coffee .... she asked for a large six cream, seven sugar.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Holy shit. 6-7 should not be a Tim Hortons order. My brother used to order a 5-3 and that's pretty crazy already.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    I used to work there and there was a cab driver that came by every night and asked for a 7 and 7, a lot of 4x4s too

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    • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    What fruit? What kind of coffee? Pretty sure there’s a substantial difference between a couple grapes and a caramel latte vs an apple and a black coffee.

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    • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    well fuck me sideways and call me shitting

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