Just wanted to check some user reviews for a serie, now IMDB forces me to create an account. Such bullshit to read some reviews. No fucking way. Fuck corporate enshittification. Fuck IMDB. Fuck Amazon.

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[–] 105 points 6 months ago (8 children)

I've been using tmdb out of spite since they brought this shitty change in. Less reviews, but I can be the change I want to see, and submit reviews here myself

https://www.themoviedb.org/

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Isn't tmdb prone to the same enshittification if it gets enough traction?

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    see also Letterboxd for just reviews

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    I dunno, man. Letterboxd is the movie version of goodreads. It's not a reliable place to find good movies in my opinion. Can be, if you follow reviewers whose opinions you trust, but personally, I only use Letterboxd to catalogue movies I have seen. If I read reviews, it's mostly for shits and giggles as most of them are shitpostings anyways.

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  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    IMDb is owned by Amazon. Use TMDB (the movie database) instead.

    themoviedb.org

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  • [–] 38 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Yep. Found that out a couple weeks ago for the same reason. I'm not giving them my data just to read some reviews. There's literally no reason to hide those behind a login other than to harvest your info and viewing habits.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    But they already have your info and habits, that's all pretty easy to gather with ip logs and cookies. They want even more, and they want you to have to ask them to delete it

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Amazon already knows everything about you from your buying habits, down to menstrual cycles and toilet cleaning. What's your favourite films on top of it?

    (I hate Amazon, finally deleted my decades old IMDb account a while back. Now if only I could rid myself of Amazon... They've not fulfilled a single order for me correctly since 2020 so it's not even the ease that counts any more... One day!)

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Do it now. You will not regret it. There are alternatives for everything. Including just doing less online shopping.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Preach! For sure, been cutting down as much as possible. It helps that prices are thru the roof and I don't need a lot.

    I've always been a major thrifter, almost everything I own is second hand or hand me down, but I also happen to enjoy collecting, which is where the online element sometimes comes in.

    Don't get me wrong, I've only ordered from Amazon less than a dozen times, never had Prime, and most of my purchases have always been local.

    I honestly love that folks are trying to wean off the toxic teat that is US technocracy. I can jive with it.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    LOL stop crying when you still support them.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    If you don't like the discussion, you can skip it :) I think it's better to vocalize the issue so we can look at it together.

    I personally boycotted Amazon for several years around the 2020s before resorting to purchases I felt I needed and couldn't get elsewhere.

    After being burned so many times, I've certainly reconsidered my wants and needs overall - if Amazon is the only way, do I need it at all?

    If you don't think that's anything, I don't know what to tell ya.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    purchases I felt I needed

    I'm sorry but I feel that's a weak excuse.
    Especially if you say you only want to quit now because you don't like their service.

    I see this a lot with americans, they have little motivation or conviction.
    The political situation is a good example.
    They can barely get themselves to do a half-assed one day strike.
    While in Europe we strike for days and burn the streets fif they even think about doing a fraction of the shit your regime does.
    The No Kings BS, not buying from Wallmart for a day and other embarrassing and futile acts will not do anything.
    You have a mentality problem.
    And it's only going to get worse until you all grow a spine.
    I wish you good luck (sorry if it sounds hard but it needs to be said)

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago (10 children)
  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Amazon also owns IGDB (game database), Goodreads (books), and so on. For music data, they just support MusicBrainz which is open source, open license, and independent database. MusicBrainz have pilot project for books database, but it's not as good as Goodreads or other DB yet.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I knew about Goodreads but not the others. Enshittification, indeed.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    IMDb has been trash for like a decade now

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago

    Somebody recently acted like I was weird for looking up an actor’s filmography on Wikipedia instead of imdb. But I HATE imdb’s interface and will avoid it every time if I can. Wikipedia might not have every project a person has worked on but it has enough and it’s just presented in a simple table

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    Ew I didn’t know they were owned by Amazon. Gross.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 12 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Is there a Fediverse IMDb equivalent?

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Not everything needs to be fediverse.

    Anyway, TMDB and TVDB are potential rivals

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Just found out one of the site runners I believe it was @nutomic@lemmy.ml is making a federated wiki, which is terrific considering how wikis work and the process of filtering out the ideological bullshit on Wikipedia itself. Less drama since there's split, more tightly-knit teams, but also consider the possibility of being caugut up in multiple wiki moderation wars simultaneously πŸ€” who knows if it would increase or decrease overall moderation spaghetti

    The point is, what could possibly be worse than the current wikipedia moderation? They are absolute nolifer hellions

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I'd say everything needs to be federated so one company doesn't get to be a single broker of information

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Does you argument also apply to Wikipedia and Musicbrainz?
    They are both open (Musicbrainz is even public domain) and you can download the entirety of the database
    Both are crowdsourced pieces of knowledge

    To a lesser degree, you can also get the data of TMDB with some workarounds (example: developer.themoviedb.org)
    So they arent exactly locked into their knowledge vault and can be downloaded daily just in case of a bail/bait and switch

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    There's an invidious-type equivalent for imdb, libremd, but it unfortunately tends to break and may not have been updated in a while.

    EDIT: You can try and see if there are any instances of it that still work.

    EDIT EDIT: Couldn't get a single instance to work. I think the project might need someone new to take it over.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    IMDB started as an open wikipedia type website where everyone contributed content about movies and actors.

    As soon as volunteers had added enough content that it was really useful, the IMDB creators locked out the contributors and sold it.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    IMDb has been making shitty decisions for a long time. They have always been a business first, community last.

    I doubt RT is much better but I use it mostly. It at least has been consistently the same amount of shitty UI since inception. TheMovieDb.org has a decent ratings system too and is getting more use, but again it's privately owned.

    I'm not aware of a community run and operated ratings DB that's got any significant uptake.. Would be glad to hear of one if anyone knows.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    Because Amazon bought it

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I miss the imbd forums and reading about all the different theories viewers had on movies and shows. Enshitification of imbd started when they just randomly one day got rid of the forums.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I’m only there to look at actors and see what they’re in or view their actor relationships (siblings, spouses, kids, etc.)

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    Letterboxd isn't a 1-to-1 replacement for imdb, but it does have user submitted reviews and ratings out of 5 stars. I would suggest giving it a shot if that's primarily what you're after.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    hi, just wanted to notify you that this can be circumvented automatically with a https://libredirect.github.io/ linking to an IMDB instance. I just checked and there is at least one public instance available. It has a button in the settings that scans a public registry of them, it can randomly select from them, and there is a button in its popup menu to automatically remove any broken instance + reroll. Often there are some that exist it doesn't know about, and the whole point is that you can host your own. In fewer words, it's a collection of private frontends run by a variety of collectives and hobbyists, with a slick addon that works in Firefox Android mobile btw 😎 . This should drastically improve your experience on mainstream websites, especially if you are the kind who "just drops in for second" and slams into a stupid login wall

    Don't get caught lacking my friend nobody should be browsing default Youtube and IMDB layout. They have themes πŸŽ€

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    It’s gotten more aggressive, but it hasn’t forced me to create an account yet.

    E: hmm, the app doesn’t force me to sign in, but I do see that if I try to use a web browser.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Enshitification

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    There's a really nice TMDb compatible Android app called ShowCase, btw.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I've had an IMDb account longer than some Netizens have been alive. I feel like the Fediverse angles older, though, so I should be careful how I word it here. Popular social networks, though? Easy claim. Though, I feel like when people capitalise the B at the end, they might be younger? But I just checked and the B is definitely still lowercase, so I'm not sure where they got that it was upper.

    That said, I got rid of the app a while ago. I just browse to it in Safari (iPhone) or Firefox (Mac) now. The app is trash. I've migrated my data to TMDB, but the site's not quite as good and lacks information, so I use both. (TMDB does not have an app. There's an app on the App Store, but it's not official and it sucks. So it's browser-only for now.)

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    At leeast tvtropes.org and imfdb.org are still ok. :)

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I hit the same wall as OP yesterday but found myself on tvtropes instead which now has about 20 tabs open.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    What are the ads like there? TV Tropes insists I turn off my ad block, which is usually a bad sign.

    Also, looking at IMBD, it's weird they ask "Are you a new customer?" Customer? What the hell are they selling? Info that can be found more easily on Wikipedia and a jillion other websites?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Yeah I tried to look at an episode list on my phone. Tried to force me to download an app. No way to view the website on my phone.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Can the IMDb be scraped? Not necessarily for the reviews, but for the titles, actors, and so forth. Kind of wish Anna's Archive had done that instead of Spotify.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Any website can be scraped if you want it badly enough.

    However, tmdb is a significantly less shitty alternative, even if data isn't always as good. It also has a free API for non-commercial use, so FOSS apps can use it for free.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    The Move Database is great. Yes the info is sometimes not quite as good as amazon, but it's way more open than IMDb. You can edit info, and the api is great. I use it in the cli tool I built for myself.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Not sure what your talking about. You can still access IMDB from a browser. You talking about something else?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Meanwhile I go to IMDb and am not forced to create an account.

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