I’m reasonably certain the two are not mutually exclusive
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I don't mind the criticism as long as it's prefaced by something like "I know I live in a murderous imperialistic Western country and I hate it too, but... ". But when does it? Quite rarely.
What is .ml obsession with defending China ?
Learning and critique are the same thing. If you look at China and go "this is perfect in every way and we should copy it," then you aren't actually learning anything at all. In my experience MLs don't get angry with anarchists and others critical of China because they don't learn from Chinese socialism, but because they don't like the conclusions they've made.
If you look at China and go "this is perfect in every way and we should copy it," then you aren't actually learning anything at all
MLs do not hold this view. China isn't perfect, and copying their model completely wouldn't work at all. The Soviet Union, China, and the DPRK all use different models of socialism.
You say this, but I have met MLs (not on lemmy) who tout the DPRK as a utopia and shut down all of my criticism as western brainwashing.
I feel both our perspectives are anecdotal and the real answer lies between our observations.
I have met MLs (not on lemmy) who tout the DPRK as a utopia and shut down all of my criticism as western brainwashing.

Again, MLs don't hold the view that the Soviet Union, China, the DPRK, Cuba, Vietnam, or any socialist country is perfect. Here's an example of criticisms brought against Stalin (thanks Dessalines for compiling an excellent resource list). We absolutely do critique past and present failures and contradictions and try to do better.
I haven't seen anyone claim the DPRK is a utopia, just an existing socialist country with its own struggles.
No ML makes the point that China is perfect, nor that we should copy it. Perfection is an impossibility, and China's model of socialism is the socialism suited to China, not to be dogmatically copied. Every country will have their own socialist construction process suited to their own conditions, China being highly agrarian at the time of its revolution has had a dramatic impact on how it has pursued socialism.
I'm responding to the meme which presents learning and critique as separate and mutually exclusive. In order to learn from something you have to critique it, and if you believe that China is not perfect then you know this and should agree with me.
There's also another thing you're doing that I see MLs do all the time, which is posit that Chinese socialism is uniquely suited to China and that it must be implemented differently in other places. While I do agree that this is the case, I often see MLs use this argument to excuse flaws in the implementation of socialism in China as necessary alterations required due to the particular conditions and historical circumstances in which it was created.
IMO there were many wrong turns and mistakes that China made in its socialist transition that have had lasting negative consequences, and though they can often be explained by China's particular conditions and historical circumstances, that doesn't excuse them.
The point of the meme is that critique is easy, learning is hard. It doesn't pit the two against each other, it says westerners have one without the other. Further, I'd say genuine critique that allows for learning is much harder than any critique, which can be low-effort.
As for the vague aspects you listed at the end, I can't really respond without specifics. Nobody has ever said China has never made a mistake in the construction of socialism, but if you aren't going to give an example of what you consider to be negative and avoidable lasting ramifications that MLs sideline as necessary, then there's nothing for me to add other than I don't see this. All that leaves is a perspective difference on the same topics, most likely.
western country bad, therefore China good
Nope.
China has AI models for me. The power of intelligence in my own computer. Pretty futuristic. The west hasn't made anything futuristic for me in my whole lifetime.
Then there's more cool future stuff over there, like democracy, that people where I live can only dream of.
...that's your selling point? this kinda proves my point
The Great Firewall is unequivocally authoritarian
Like the tooth fairy, there's no such thing as "authoritarianism", but even if there was, you'd have a difficult time making the case that allowing the US surveillance state to operate within your borders, is "anti-authoritarian".
The US is more likely than any other country to harm you psychologically (or physically), coup your government, misinform you, or push far-right propaganda, all based on the information they gain about you and your peers through their spying platforms. India's most popular social network for example, is Facebook, meaning the US controls nearly the entire social media and information landscape of a country many times larger than itself.
You can watch a vid here on why the PRC is not naive enough to do this.
While I agree with the overall statement, WhatsApp, Youtube and Instagram have more users, and a bigger impact on politics in India, than Facebook.
Whatsapp and instagram are owned by facebook. Youtube is owned by google. Still US tech companies.
Thank you for claiming that authoritarianism literally does not exist. It makes it very easy to know that you are a fundamentally unserious person who I don't need to listen to at all.
Thank you for claiming that Badguyism literally does not exist. It makes it very easy to know that you are a fundamentally unserious person who I don’t need to listen to at all.
Authoritarian in the modern day is only used by westerners to denigrate countries that build alternatives models outside the western order (Cuba, Vietnam, PRC, Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, etc), so much so that it basically means: "when you tell white people they can't do imperialism".
Somehow, this country is excluded from its definition:

No you don't get it, by redefining common words we can make society doubleplus good
That doesn’t mean the Chinese government and Chinese oligarchs aren’t also exercising an unjust degree of control over their own citizens. The Chinese government surveilling its citizens and tightly controlling the flow of information is not being done out of benevolence.
Just vague, unsourced orientalism. You only feel this "in your gut", because your are propagandized by western media to hate the enemies of the US.
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