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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

China took advantage of the technology gap and capital flooding to build up its industry. Now, it is pivoting to increasing domestic consumption and multilateralism with the global south, energy independence, and cooperative agreements with the rest of the global south. It is not a permanently static system (nothing truly is), but one that adapts as time progresses to new conditions. The China of today is not the China of the 90s.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

You're defining socialism as "no billionaires," which means "no private property," which means "no transition at all between capitalism and communism." There's no hypocrisy here, you have a fundamentally flawed understanding of what constitutes socialism, which is working class control of the state and an economy where public ownership is principal, both of which apply to China.

This fundamentally flawed outlook is why you're saying China isn't truly socialist if they don't immediately declare war on the US Empire and potentially plunge the world into nuclear war, purely to satisfy an online commenter. You see socialism not as a mode of production, but purely violence against capitalists. This is just a worship of adventurism, not a commitment to ending class society through scientific analysis of development and the conquest of political and economic power via revolution, which China completed in 1949.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

China arresting a diplomatic delegation would be considered an act of war. China has absolutely nothing to gain by attacking individual Statesian CEOs, and far more to gain by building alternative partnerships that sidestep the US and Europe altogether, if need be, which is what they have been ramping up in the last decade (and why the heat is turning up).

What would China gain from arresting any of these goons, who would immediately be replaced? You're treating them like they believe themselves to be, special individuals that got to the top through merit and cannot be easily replaced, when in reality it's the working classes that built them.

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[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Let me put it this way, I think that if this meeting between U.S. billionaires + Trump in China ends without a single one of these individuals being arrested — I have my answer on where China really stands.

"If China doesn't declare war on the US they're not real socialists".

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[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

unless you’re suggesting that arresting U.S billionaires is an act of war.

When they're there as part of a US delegation it absolutely would be did you think this through at all?

Cowbee ends up thinking for you guys.

Don't even know what you're trying to imply with this.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

What "machine?" What thinking am I doing for anyone? If people react to a statement you make in a similar way, why is that not evidence of being a sensible conclusion to your assertion?