the list for the curious. I don't mind if rimu wants to maintain a default blocklist, if I maintained my own fediverse app I would probably make something similar, based on my own preferences, to cut down on the mod work. If you want your piefed instance to allow botfarm produce, disable the blocklist or just fork it and live your dream.

The right wing has ass fucked the entire world into the ground, I say good riddance.

https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/blob/master/domains.txt includes... wikileaks.org 🤦

afaik WikiLeaks still enjoys a spotless accuracy record and obviously has never promoted QAnon.

The fact that some QAnon promoters have themselves cited some WikiLeaks publications is, in my opinion at least, not a reason to prohibit linking to WikiLeaks (a site which hasn't published anything new recently but continues to host a massive archive of public interest documents).

I can only imagine the person coming up with this idea

It was only about 15 years ago that censorship was an extreme taboo on the internet. I miss those times deeply.

Personally think it's just really not the software's job to handle this or have an opinion on this - it's rather up to the instance admins to decide.

According to Rimu Atkinson, the main developer of PieFed, all PieFed instances come with a 3000-long block list of resources that cannot be linked to. These include all sorts of right-wing outlets. There is no easy opt-out, forcing existing instances to follow the blocklist.

I support blocking hiding/flagging propaganda and fascism, this case is just censorship imo. This could be a good feature, IF the ultimate choice is on the instances and its users on if they want to have it enabled or not by default, not from the developer and "on all instances with no easy opt-out"

No, very probably not all PieFed instances, and AFAIK the socialist sites are not in that list of defaults.

If you’re going to make public accusations, please don’t sabotage yourself by making incorrect or imprecise claims.

Users that prefer a more curated and politically uniform experience might prefer PieFed over the alternatives.

There’s no reason to think that. I’d argue that Lemmygrad is more curated and politically uniform than any PieFed instance is.

If this is the most mainstream of websites being blocked I think I'm ok, piefed is still great software even with these sites included in a linking block

My solution: make blocklists subscription-based. I don't mean for money, though like most of the Fediverse, donations would be accepted.

What I mean is, there'd be an independent site that maintains a list of everything that could be blocked with keywords that specify why you might want to block it. People who run instances can make a custom, dynamic block list based on keywords that they want to block.

Say we have a tag, "paedo shit." I suppose most people would want to block that.

But say we also have a tag, "Zionist." So some instance would block that. Others wouldn't.

Now say you're running some site, you go to this site and see you're flagged as Zionist. You don't think you are, so you contest it with your reasoning. This opens a thread and anyone can comment on it.

Now when you go to block all "Zionist" sources, you have an option to also include all "contested" sources as well. If you say yes, it doesn't matter what they say. You're taking the source repository at their word. If you say no, you are presented with the sources that have contested it, and you can read the threads, and add or exclude them as you like.

How is this a bad plan? (In the words of my boy Luis Guzman from The Count of Monte Cristo (2002, Kevin Reynolds))

I need to tack on a moderator blurb to this post. I received a report from Rimu that this post doxxed them. While it does appear the original post contained Rimu's full name, I do not believe this qualifies as doxxing.

Posting someone's full name typically would be doxxing, but Rimu has completely subverted their own expectation of privacy by publicly linking their full name with their development work on Piefed. Their username is even their real first name. I do not believe you can doxx someone who already did it to themselves.

This information is publicly available, and it was made so by Rimu themselves.

Not only is this not doxxing but under these circumstances it smacks of a half hearted attempt at censorship. Rimu made themselves a public figure. You cannot post their address, or other personal information, but their name is fair game by their own choice.

My main issue with this actually is its controlled at the instance level. I actually have said I am fine with a default block list as long as it can be changed later. Its understandable that someone having an instance would want a good default experience form their perspective and I can even see it at the code level in this case. I have a few caveats though that make it troublesome for me. One it should be highly advertised or easy to peruse and change. Bigger though is as a user I want as much as possible to be controllable at the user level. So I want to be able to reverse this for myself. I completely understand defederation for legal reasons and the ideal instance for me would deferederat based on that, but I would completely appreciate a default block list for my user that I could then go through and revers if I cared to. I was actually aware of this and do intend to get off my tuckus and move instances because I can't control the blocks but Im lazy and honestly I have no real incentive to unblock any of these but rather on philosophical grounds want the ability to do so. Im kinda hoping the software will evolve to allow a more direct user control like that before I move but its been awhile and I sorta doubt at this point that is going to happen.

Given that many "right-wing" sites are full of lies, bigotry, and hate, I think I'm quite fine with this.

At this point, the difference between right wing and left wing polititics is simply that right wing politics is all about a single strong fascist billionaire leader who makes sure only his buddies get richer, and left wing politics is that we all have a nice life.

Many people actually prefer nthe former because only the former supports selfishness, and discrimination on race, sexuality, and whatnot, while the latter doesn't.

That literally nis the difference between the two. If you are rightwing, I will presume you're racist, sexist, and selfish.