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British newspapers antisemitic cartoons of Zack Polanski (sopuli.xyz)
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[–] 57 points 6 months ago (22 children)

Photo of the guy for comparison

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago (19 children)

    With teeth like that how could he be anything but British?

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago* (16 children)

    Why is teeth shaming okay? Try to stop being a classist asshole.

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    I didn't really associate the stereotype of bad teeth with lower class British people. AFAIK the stereotype comes from even rich British aristocrats supposedly having bad dental care.

    That said, you are right that applying that stereotype to specific people without first checking if they're upper class is more likely to hit lower class people, especially with how culture has shifted since the stereotype was first formed.

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  • [+] -26 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    So your classism is more about the USA being better than the British then being about rich and poor. 👌

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    That’s not classism, it’s more nationalism.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    It's okay to be classist about British people they have literal classes and should in fact be mocked for it

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    We don’t associate this with class, we think even your rich have fucked up teeth.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    You know MAGA face? That's kind of how British people see American teeth: incredibly fake. It's a lot of pain, discomfort, and money to conform to a an unnatural standard solely for apperance.

    British teeth aren't rotting and decaying, they just haven't spent years forcibly rearranging the bones in their face.

    This does result in classisim in America, because poor families can't afford to rearrange their face bones, and not having cosmetically "perfect" teeth is looked down on.

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    • [–] 90 points 6 months ago* (11 children)

    Side view for more comparison:

    image

    Top right: clearest case IMO. nose clearly bears no resemblance to his actual nose, whereas large hooked noses are the most common physical anti-semitic stereotype.

    Top left: huge lips is another classic Nazi stereotype. Big ears arguably also, but he does have pretty big ears. The drooping eyes are a more subtle stereotype, but given that his actual eyes are narrow, not drooping, that's pretty suspicious IMO. Contrast top-right, which caricatures his real eyes.

    Bottom left: fucking cursed, but I can't see anything anti-semitic

    Bottom right: unhinged, but again not anti-semitic that I can see. There have been some depictions of jews as snakes, hence having forked tongues, but they're not super common that I can see so it's a bit of a stretch.

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    for the bottom right: the tongue is not forked on the actual ghost, they added that intentionally

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago

    OK but saying a politician is a snake or devil of some kind isn't unusual, so unless we can find some anti-semitic trope it's based on, I don't see it.

    Ironically, the most common example I know if is Farage as depicted by Martin Rowson!

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

    The four cartoon pics straight up look like they were drawn by A. Wyatt Mann.

    Edit: THREE cartoons and a PHOTO MANIPULATION, thank you for correcting fuckin pedant, feels like I’m back on Reddit thanks

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  • [+] -14 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Given that the bottom left is not even a cartoon but a photomanipulation I don't think you've looked at them carefully enough that anyone should take your word for it.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    You're right looking at pictures requires an extensive investigative study it can't be just done at a glance.

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  • [+] -6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    No, extensive is not necessary, obviously. But it looks like a glance is not sufficient.

    If you disagree you can say what's wrong with the others. It's a lot more productive than just talking vaguely.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I was saying they all look racist but you come in hostile so how bout you productively fuck off. Sorry my shitpost comment I made while I was on a walk about how some images are racist and look like a racist guy’s comics didn’t meet your exhaustive observational standards. I sure will sit down and REALLY study a post’s images and my comment before make any more posting lest I offend your delicate sensibilities more.

    Or most likely I’ll glance at your poop brown tag you’ve earned now and extensively think “lul that guy’s a full on dingus from reddit”

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  • [+] -6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I was saying they all look racist

    But are still not saying how.

    Or most likely

    Oh no, however will I cope? The approval of people who add nothing to discussions was all that was keeping me going :'(

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Do you even know who A. Wyatt Man is? It’s an internet comment not a fucking research paper. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, stay ignorant, I’m not here to hold the hand of some fired up toxic asshole. If someone asked half-respectfully, I could elaborate.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago

    Yeah he made some very widely spread racist pen and ink cartoons, including the extremely widespread "happy merchant" one featuring a Jewish man with hooked nose, curly hair and beard, kippah and fat lips.

    His cartoons look absolutely nothing like the bottom two pictures. I know you don't like that I'm persisting with this, but given that you could have said something like "yeah, the resemblance is really only with the top two" at any point, that's on you.

    Maybe you expected me to just not contradict you because you're partially right? Tough titties, you were partially wrong, and getting the facts right on this is important. "Not a fucking research paper"? Take some pride in what you write, instead of giving in to the post truth era. Incorrect accusations of racism are harmful.

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    • [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    The media is truly scared of politicians that can't be bought out

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    [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    Whatever someone’s politics are, these caricatures are gross and way over the line. Criticism doesn’t need to lean on antisemitic imagery.

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    [–] 37 points 6 months ago (24 children)

    Slimer is not Jewish tho for one thing ectocooler was NOT kosher and also when he was eating books in the library those were vellum manuscripts which as you know can only be eaten by Jewish ghosts under certain very specific

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (21 children)

    This comment is so funny I had to check: The ingredients seem kosher BUT they never got Kosher certification so it's technically true.

    And when I looked into similar packaged drinks, I found that almost none are kosher. Some of the same drinks ARE kosher when dispensed from a machine, though, so maybe it's a preservatives thing?

    Some very solid evidence that Slimer was not Jewish would be his glizzy gobbling. He didn't ask the vendor if it was kosher, he just ate em.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The ingredients seem kosher

    You can mix kosher ingredients and get something that isn't kosher, like a cheeseburger.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    True, though I couldn't tell how the combination of ingredients would prevent the label either.

    And along with the combination restrictions, there are preparation restrictions, too. Gotta get Hebrew National when you invite Jewish friends at the summer BBQ as not all-beef hotdogs are kosher!

    ....damn now I'm nostalgic and want some latkes and [those folded up artichoke things I forgot the name of]

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (18 children)

    Who's following kashrut in 2026 (at these prices)? lol, what food a person eats is not a significant sign of their ethnicity.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (17 children)

    We're discussing the ethnicity of a silly ghost character based on context clues the writers didn't deliberately put in a film from 40 years ago, don't take it too seriously

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  • [+] -10 points 6 months ago (16 children)

    Yeah, what's serious about antisemitism? Who could get hurt? Not like they were gassing and cooking human beings withing the last 100 years or anything...

    Yeah. I should be less sensitive.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    No one in this comment chain was making light of antisemitism, though.

    I feel like I'm about to ruin the joke but....what makes their comment so funny is that they're (jokingly) missing the point and going off about something irrelevant with a fully-formed argument.

    I fact checked in the first place to send to the same Jewish friend who once told me he hated Hitler....for taking that mustache style off the table for everyone. Not a guy you can accuse of not taking antisemitism seriously.

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  • [+] -8 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Bro. You're using your Jewish friend to explain to me how this isn't antisemitism? Do you even read what you write before you hit send?

    Well, I appreciate you informing my ignorant self as to what antisemitism is and isn't. I should not have presumed to know about such things, and appreciate you setting me straight on it. I, and others related to me, should really learn to be less sensitive to such things. It is just humor, after all.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Bro. My family is from Skokie, IL. Like half of the people in my life are Jewish. I used a real example of someone "missing the point" for humor and their ethnicity is VERY relevant to my point that it's not antisemitic to make jokes on the topic.

    I have no idea how you get through life if your jimmies get rustled by two comments that weren't in any way antisemitic. There are so many horrors in the world (including actual antisemitism) to get pissed about and THIS is the hill you're gonna die on?

    Arguing that Slimer wasn't Jewish because he consumed ecto cooler, hot dogs, and books is funny as fuck.

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  • [–] -5 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Thank you for again further explaining to me how incorrect I am to assume antisemitism. I should have deferred cognition to someone who clearly knows a lot of Jews, and realized you would certainly know more about it than I. I'm glad you are confident what you have read and stated is "funny as fuck." No point wasting time someone like me, who just gets his jimmies rustled over something so trivial.
    From now on I know to trust G***m, not question those who are clearly better informed and more positioned to make determinations on what is or isn't offensive to me or my "easy to get their jimmies rustled" people.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    We definitely agree that nothing productive is going to come from any continued interaction between us here. I'm not backing down from my opinion that no one is making light of antisemitism and you're too busy playing the victim to give me a real reason why I should.

    Maybe we'll get along in another thread. See ya there.

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  • [–] -5 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Nice. Playing the victim. Won't back down. That's the spirit.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    You're playing the victim....again.

    Have you always struggled with reading comprehension or is this a new development for you?

    If you insist on getting the last word in, try to at least make it substantive

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Thank you for again telling me the situation. It is important that you elucidate on the weakness of my cognitive skills, to draw contrast to your own intellectual superiority. Perhaps you feel this is a conversation to be "won", or that you in some way are "holding ground". That is possibly your POV, though of course, I have no way to be sure.

    What I do know is that having our opinions or thoughts called into question can psychologically put us on the defensive, feeling attacked. Identity-Protective Cognition hardens our stance, and we become unwilling to concede at all. Because existentially, it feels like a danger. It feels bad.

    So what I will do is concede that we may both have succumb to such, as is cognitively standard, and quite prevalent in today's digital, social media filled society. I certainly become protective and defensive in situations involving my ethnic group. And I can easily see how one could become so in regards to perceiving someone taking your words out of context or over-inflating their impact.

    There is a difference between being unintentionally insensitive and being racist or hateful. I do feel, personally, there may have been some unintentional insensitivity in the comment, but I do not think you are hateful of Jews. And please realize, I am telling you how it reads to me. Perhaps it reads differently to you; I do not have your contexting within my brain. But, you also do not have mine, and this is where the unintentional comes in.

    Regardless, you are correct that this isn't productive. I am sure you are not a specifically bad person, and realize this was just a little Internet interaction. Words rarely ever have meaning standing alone. We do not share each other's perspectives, but likely are not really in conflict at all.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    You hopped into a silly conversation to accuse us of not taking antisemitism seriously.

    And you gotta realize that this sarcastic overly-agreeable writing style you keep using is really not helping you beat the self-victimizing accusations.

    I'm more than willing to change my behavior when I learn it's actually insensitive. But earlier, you said you know you're too sensitive and I agree. Why should I change for the 0.001% of people predisposed to being offended?

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    First visualization: me shaking my head in near disbelief.

    Second visualization: me realizing this is some twit on social media and no longer caring.

    Third visualization: me considering the psychology in my head and laughing. Albeit uncomfortably.

    Go be white and right, bro. Have the day you deserve.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    [edit] My original comment was a bit mean, forgive me if you already ready.

    But I do want to say that I must have deserved a funny day because your reply made me laugh really hard, though maybe not in the way you intended.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah. I should be less sensitive.

    Yeah probably, if you can't even handle jokes about Slimer being jewish specifically because the writers didn't intend it and thus "that's the joke."

    Maybe stick to Feivel I guess.

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    • [–] 65 points 6 months ago (21 children)

    What the actual fuck. Nevermind the antisemitism for a second, why are they even bashing politicians based on appearance in the first place? British media is unhinged.

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  • [–] 57 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    It's a standard thing they do to anybody vaguely left wing.

    If your election promise isn't to go visit all the billionaire media owners and personally suck them off, you're not going anywhere in the UK.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah if you published something like that in Sweden you'd get pitchforks shoved up your ass.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Right. I don't know how indicative of the climate in the uk this is, but with this and the comments, I'm freaking out a little bit rn.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Comments are all like "this is a proud British tradition and I don't see anything wrong with it, plus fuck all politicians let's bully every single one of them so only the worst narcissists survive."

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It’s called caricature, and it’s been a central part of British political cartoons since the 18th Century. Politicians have been known to buy the originals to hang on their walls.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (3 children)

    What's wrong with it? Caricatured politicians practically every day for centuries since we've had a press, this is bad now?

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  • [+] -12 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Politicians are horrible twats. No idea what the ratio is, or how it could be proven, but I would imagine that the amount of "good" politicians is a very very low number. I mean politicians that actually have the best interests of the public at heart, or in mind, when they're making decisions. The idea of voting for people to make decisions for me is nuts. Any outrage about a caricature is crazy.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    If you don't know what the conversation is about you don't have to contribute. It's not a requirement you know.

    I have my criticisms of the greens but not with him in particular

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  • [–] -5 points 6 months ago*

    I am fully aware of what the conversation is about.

    Let me break it down for you.

    Caricatures are drawn of a politician.

    Somebody claims that because said politician is Jewish and has a big nose in the caricatures that they are antisemitic.

    Likens the caricatures to pro-Palestine marches when they are, and should be, independent of one another.

    I would suggest that Keir Starmers connections to Israel, and influence by the Jewish people close to him, may lay closer to the reason that his government have cracked down so hard on the Pro-Palestine movements.

    They are a total contradiction in themselves, which has been proven time and time again. Which is something I get is being attempted with this/these examples.

    But they are not like for like. Nowhere in the cartoons is the politician calling for death to Palestinians or even pro-Israel (so cannot be accused of being antisemitic) under Starmers laws.

    But equally if the politician was calling for that, he likely wouldn't be accused of it either under Starmers Britain.

    Starmers Britain is one where the "only" antisemitic people can be those that will use satire, humour or criticism of the Jewish people, but not necessarily Semite people. That includes calling out Genocide or just publicly supporting aid for the people being slaughtered.

    One example is in this video - A Jewish community crowd around a news crew, telling a Semite journalist that he should "go home" and that he is not welcome on their streets, calling him a Donkey and a Dog. Nothing happened to any of them.

    The law is very lob sided on this 'law' under Starmer. His version of antisemitism that he "will not tolerate in any form" is only really in favour of some Semite people, but definitely not all, and not only does he tolerate it, he often ignores it, in many of its forms.

    It seems Jewish people cannot be antisemitic, but other Semite people can be.

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    • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    The rich are afraid of chad Polanski

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    [–] 32 points 6 months ago

    Because when they talk about "anti-semitism" they are actually talking about anti-ZIONISM. Since they are a vassal state of USrael.

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    [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Zionism does not belong to Judaism

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    [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    OP is SO STUPID! NONE of these Cartoons showed someone PROTECTING Children from Bombs or PUSHING away Dogs that are RAPING Children! THOSE would be Anti Semetic!

    -The BBC and Keir Starmer!

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    [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    No it's check notes anyone who critiques a nation on genocide. At which point we will lump all members of their prominent religion into the same bucket because that's equality.

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    • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    Damn this is 100% antisemititic coded.

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    [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Surprised they haven't drawn him with a rat's tail at this point.

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    [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Bloody hell!

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