I have a 2023 Honda Passport, and when the Collision Assist Warning (or whatever the hell it's called) is active, when it thinks you should apply the brakes it flashes "BRAKE" in big red letters right in the middle of the dashboard. It's incredibly distracting, and almost guarantees I'll be looking at IT rather than whatever I should be braking for.
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My Toyota has an emergency beep and displays "Warning Roads may be icy." whenever the temp is below freezing. It never fails to startle me and take my eyes off the road.
This sound and warning pops up at a random time after you start driving in the winter. There is no way to disable it. You can disable the seatbelt warning.
I just rented a brand new Ford Explorer and tried on the lane assist and it's the stupidest thing, I would never waster money to pay extra for that "feature"
From what I can tell it doesn't have an actually sensor in the steering wheel to tell if your hands on on the wheel, so instead it judges that by the fact that there is "resistance" or "feedback" from you turning the wheel or slowing it from turning while adjusting to stay in the lane.
However, this means that when you hit a straight stretch of road, and have no need to adjust the wheel physically, it blares a "KEEP YOUR HANDS ON THE WHEEL" warning at you until you move the wheel a little bit. So on a straight stretch of road you have to unnecessarily weave left and right a bit in order for the car to not get pissed at you.
If you don't and the car thinks you don't have your hands on the wheel it just turns the system off. So fuck you apparently, they'll let you weave off out of the lane on purpose if you're having a medical emergency and can't keep your hands on the wheel and relying on the lane assist to slow down safely.
I have such a system in my Corolla Cross, and I'd like to add that on top of all that - sometimes the system looses track of the lane and thus cannot follow it. Which is reasonable - it's only... nonhuman. What is not reasonable is that the only indication for that is a small indicator on the dashboard switching color from green to gray. That big-ass warning shouting at you? That's reserved for when you didn't play with the wheel for too long.
My car does this, but it's the same "bong" sound as when a warning light comes on -- it's not really distracting, but every time my heart sinks and I think, "what's wrong with the car now?"
What's a "warning road"? It doesn't snow where I live so I don't think we have those here.
Was taking a carshare somewhere and, while driving on the highway, the car's massive digital monitor switched to some sort of notice like this that hid the map the driver was using, forcing them to figure out how to exit it and go back to the map he needed while he was driving. I always knew those screens were dumb, but I hadn't thought they were that dumb. They're a fucking menace.
I rented a car that would lock you out of the stereo controls while backing up. It would also auto-connect your phone and then start playing music at the last volume setting
the number of times I was backing up attentively only to have music start blaring mid-manoeuvre and startling me, forcing me to either hurry up so I could get the volume button back or stop so I could access it asap...
we eventually got used to it but damn the first few days we kept forgetting to turn it ALL the way down instead of just a reasonable level
such a fucking stupid design choice. fuck you, Chrysler
Some brands are already trying to push ads on the car screen.
Relevant Hank Green video about this
Here I am getting annoyed that my Android Auto wouldn't automatically start, and instead I have to wait until module loads to click AA button on the screen. (I can hit it while driving) 2017 Peugeot if anyone is interested.
Fuck this shit, really. Who in the fuck needs a reminder that they need to drive safe. Who wants to see instructions on how to pair their phone with an app that is a paid subscription? That should be banned.
Also, the climate controls are now only accessible through the touchscreen. Buried under 3 levels of sub menus.
It won't be long before turn signals and windshield wipers are behind a sub menu
Didn't Tesla already do that?
Cars should not have screens. Maybe a tiny one in the dash for error messages, but anything bigger than a matchbox should be illegal.
It's nice for navigation and rear camera view, I guess. But yeah, it's function should mostly be limited to be an output device and not an input device.
Our car has a decently large screen. When reversing, it's invaluable. You can see more than if you turned around and looked, it's that good. I'd never go back to a shitty 2 inch reversing camera.
I tried to use the reversing camera for a while until it completely missed the person walking by with their knee almost on my bumper and I nearly ran them over. Now I just look behind me.
How did it miss the person? You couldn't see them?
Our new car has quite a wide angle on the camera, our older ones didn't have that. But for sure it's something you use in combination with looking, the reversing camera is for directly behind where you can't see with mirrors. You should still turn your head as well to check traffic (and people) coming from the sides. You also look in your side mirrors too. You don't just pick one.
It was a parking lot and I was flanked by two SUVs. I don't think the car was that old, 2018ish maybe? The angle on the camera didn't show her but when I checked my mirrors and turned around there she was. I usually do check the mirrors before turning around (which is why she didn't get run over). I just don't bother with the cameras anymore because they're superfluous and apparently unreliable.
When I'm in a parking lot and flanked by two SUVs then that's then the camera is invaluable! I can't see shit like that, but the camera with a wide angle on the back of the car can show cars coming as soon as I reverse up just a bit to poke the back end out.
Reversing cameras are certainly not the only tool to use when checking, but it's worth noting that kids under 5 (and especially around 2-3) get squashed at a much higher rate than kids tall enough to be seen out the rear window. I highly recommend glancing at the camera even if you're not trusting it.
invaluable is a bit much.
valuable, yes. not invaluable.
unless you're driving a canyonero, in which case that's on you for buying a canyonero
I've literally never driven a car with any sort of external camera and I parallel park without issue like almost every day. Head swivel and mirrors. Are y'all saying this isn't something you'd be comfortable doing without a camera?
What, parallel park? I can do that fine, the camera is great for two things. Not running over kids and backing out of car parks where you can't see shit.
If you have an overhead camera view, then the third thing is seeing how perfectly you parked in between the car park lines, but thats less of a necessity and more of a look how great I am thing.
For the record, this is all stuff you should be able to do dependably without a camera too. Not to belittle the convenience of course, but I'd worry about developing a reliance on it.
Ultimately stats show that kids under 5 (and especially around 2-3) get squashed at a much higher rate than kids that are tall enough to be seen out the back window. Rear view cameras are a tool and I highly recommend using that tool as an added tool in your toolbox.
For these two scenarios (1.short kids and 2. can't see shit when backing out of a park), the alternative is to drive back slowly and hope.
I also wonder to what extent this is a particular issue with larger vehicles. Most of my parking maneuvers are performed with a Mk5 Golf, a very small car where I have near-complete visibility from the driver's seat, and the practicality of that size was part of the appeal for me.
easy fix is to back in instead of out. can't remember the last time I pulled forward into a spot
You don't have much angle parking where you live? This is the predominant form of roadside parking near shops where I live. Not really possible to back into a spot.
That's only because the pillars are getting fatter and the rear widows are getting smaller.
"We'll set your car up with questionable tech to make you even less safe, and we'll charge you way more for it." /s
Chevy Volt:
YOU HAVE A NEW TEXT MESSAGE FROM 58931
(READ) (LISTEN) (DISMISS)
(READ) you cannot read this message while moving (DISMISS)
when WTF did you even offer it to me? We're just wasting dangerous clicks now!
Similar to Android Auto having a giant Search bar across the map page. You're not allowed to use it when driving, but it's always there in the way.
Weird, that must be some market-specific rules? I can search on Android Auto's Google Maps while my car is in motion in Sweden.
I don't usually do it, because I'm not an idiot, but it still lets me do it.
You're probably right about it being market dependent rules. I have always been annoyed by the search bar not only being useless to me, it pushes the "center" of the map to the right side of the screen, so the symbol indicating your position is never actually centered.
There probably was one in the HUD of the Google car prototypes too.
This is like "reverse Nokia". The then Nokia CEO rejected to adopt touchscreen technology because he thought "people like buttons". That was the start of Nokia's demise. Now, car companies took this lesson too zealously and replaced controls with touchscreen, but this completely compromises safety!
I miss my BlackBerry that had a touch screen and a physical keyboard. And it would have been great to have another smartphone platform out there; I wish they hadn't folded under the pressure from iphone and android. There's a pretty good chance I'd have gone for a less flashy Blackberry instead of a pixel to put grapheneOS on it, if Blackberry was still an option (and wasn't just an android platform when it was).
Well. Taking both hands off the steering wheel ain't no help either, Mr 18 Wheeler.
Honestly, I have no idea how this is acceptable these days, let alone legal.
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