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[–] 14 points 6 months ago (16 children)

Do you flick the turn signal? My Kia doesn't cause me any problems if I do it before actually turning in that direction

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    This is what I see in this post. I have not been driving tons of modern cars, but I did drive a dozen or so with this feature. Never had any issues with this.

    Firstly - using blinker disables lane assist. Anyone mentioning "I use exit line and it doesn't let me" had outed themselves as BMW drivers/not using blinker when needed. "Avoiding debris" - yeah, sure... Keep distance, watch the road, glance at the mirrors to be aware of everything around you, and certainly do no speedup.

    Secondly - this may vary to each brand/model but for the ones I drove it only just slightly makes it harder to leave the lane. Using bit more strength would still lead you to leave the lane. Kind of similar to a car without a power steering. Doubt that safety standards would let wheel lock you in the lane while changing lanes without a blinker.

    Other than that, technically these features are nice-to-haves and are not a necessity. Not being able to turn them off is quite a PITA, I agree.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    Ah yes, using the turn signal is the first thing I think of when avoiding road debris.

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    Correct: if you see an obstacle and have to do something, swerving without signals is dangerous. Braking is the first maneuver you think of, if you are out of time to decide.
    And flicking a turn signal (if you do it every time you turn) takes milliseconds and comes naturally.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (12 children)

    Depends on whether you have milliseconds available when surprised by something the car before you swerved around. I like keeping my hands on the wheel when steering suddenly.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    If that happens, you're following too closely.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Unless something falls onto the road right in front of you, and you have to guess whether it will roll or move and which way you might want to go which takes time even with plenty of following distance. If I'm guessing which way I might need to go to avoid an object in front of me signaling is the least important thing. People behind me can slow down when I slam on the brakes and start swerving.

    Apparently everyone things all debris in the road is stationary. Stopping distance between the car in front is based on it slowing down over a distance as opposed to stationary or relatively stationary debris which is a lot less distance.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    For the most part maintaining a safe following distance, and not driving too fast for conditions will prevent 99.9% of such incidents, but I do agree that in the rare occasions when reactions times are at a premium such as a branch falling on the road right in front of you, or an animal darting out of some bushes, indicators should be less of a priority than braking/evading. Violently swerving is almost always a bad idea without shedding as much speed as you can first, though, and even then it's probably better to just hit the object, unless it's a child, rather than risk a roll-over.

    That's not what you said though. You said 'something the car before you swerved around'.

    Edit: Yeah, your downvote just tells me you're a shit driver.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    That’s not what you said though. You said ‘something the car before you swerved around’.

    At highway speeds a car three seconds ahead swerving around something is basically the same thing as a branch falling right in front of your car because a safe distance to a moving vehicle is different than a safe distance to a stationary object. The down vote is because you don't understand driving.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    At highway speeds a car three seconds ahead swerving around something is basically the same thing as a branch falling right in front of your car

    No. That's one of the most absurd things I've ever read,

    you don't understand driving.

    Better than you do, champ.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Maybe learn the old addage "3 car length minimum between you and the person in front of you"

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe learn to read?

    You can be at a safe following distance for traffic, and have debris in the road that isn't stationary that takes a second or two to judge where it is going while braking and still needing to swerve because it is approaching faster than a hard braking car. Like stuff that falls off a construction vehicle and the car in front of you swerved around. There was plenty of time to brake if they stopped short, but this isn't the same thing.

    Guess I could signal the moment I swerved but not sure how that is going to be helpful to anyone behind me to tell them what I am already doing.

    Also, three car lengths isn't nearly far enough in slow traffic, and deadly on highways.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I do know how to read, you're the only one taking the example that is least likely to ever occur and pretending it's the only thing that could occur.

    Use your damn blinkers dude.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I am using the one example where signaling is both difficult and pointless because swerving is a bigger visual signal than a blinker. That doesn't mean I am dismissing all of the other situations where signaling is the right thing to do or that I don't use a signal.

    Would you be digging in your heels as much if I said signaling wasn't important when swerving around someone pulling into your lane or turning in front of you?

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