all 56 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[+] 106 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    That's why you buy your own router.

    I'm using chromecast for streaming to my television. But I accidentally cut my internetcord and guess what doesn't work without internet eventhough it doesn't strictly need internet? Exactly, I'm getting rid of the chromecast soon.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Your telling me a streaming device doesn't work without internet. I'm shocked shocked I fell you.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It should be able to work on lan as well, in my opinion

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    When streaming content to a chromecast it usually makes a direct connection to the content source, not going through the device you're casting from. In limited cases like when sharing your screen to the chromecast it does only go from your device to the chromecast without internet, but that's rarely used because it's power and data intensive to your device. I guess you're right on the internet not being 'strictly' needed but it's used for a reason.

    Should still buy your own router though, and move away from google services πŸ‘

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    All this is implying is that they are capturing this data anyways and offering you a peek at it for money with the guise that its for your safety.

    There is likely no way for you to shut it off tracking you everywhere in your own home unless you pay them to access the settings for this feature.

    They likely can track you behaviors with this and know when you take a shit, when you jerk-off/fuck your spouse, when you watch media, etc using machine-learning on the wifi specrum of your locations, signal shape, and duration.

    Fuck this crazy invasive shit to piss.

  • source
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Ask for just a plain modem and buy your own WiFi router. If that isn't an option, disable the routing functions and turn off the WiFi and buy your own router.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 7 child comments
  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, they used something like fluctuations in the WiFi signal, so you can turn it off. I suppose they could broadcast secretly without an SSID, but there are apps that will show it, so I doubt they would.

    They can also see more than just movement: https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a42575068/scientists-use-wifi-to-see-through-walls/

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I haven't had a provider supplied modem or router in well over a decade. Not everyone has the know how to do this but it's not hard to learn and they should learn.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    How hard it'll be depends on the provider. My provider's customer support explicitly told me that it is technically allowed but it is their policy to offer absolutely no help with that whatsoever for "liability reasons", and I'd be on my own if I got my router stuck in a misconfigured bridge mode where I can't access any settings anymore to fix things. They also told me to find my subscriber credentials on my own if I wanted to use a 3rd party modem.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    My provider offers no help for it past the Dmarc either.

    For the average person it's just plug and play or a guided setup. Most folks won't ever need or make any customizations to the setup.

    For what you're talking about, that can be more difficult. I work in IT so not only do we have our own modem and router in place but I also run a home server setup.

  • source
  • parent
  • load more comments (-1 replies)
  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (8 children)
  • [+] -16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    This tech is still relevant in 2025?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 7 child comments
  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I thought OpenWrt was kind of dead. Everyone uses pfsense as their open source router.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [+] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
  • load more comments (-1 replies)
  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    With only one payment you can allow us to invade your privacy... Even more than we already do.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Any open source implementations of this?

  • source
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm guessing it assumes you're carrying your phone and infers motion from changes in the signal?

    Or just uses the phone connecting and disconnecting to signal departure and arrival, in which case Home Assistant has done that for awhile now.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Reminds me of The Dark Knight when Batman activates something similar using cell signals.

    We really ought to stop fucking creating the Torment Nexus, jfc.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Or don't! (at extra cost)

  • source
  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Help us map your home and your habits. You can reject this free offer for $9.99 dollars per month. Terms and conditions apply.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • Pretty sure this was mentioned in Cryptonomicon (1999).

  • source
  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    So I guess those directional MIMO arrays can now give information back to the host controller. That is kinda creepy but also it could be super useful in the right circumstances.

  • source
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Device-free passive localization has been around for over 15 years.

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/0908.0893

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So when's it gonna be in Home Assistant?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The idea of DfP has been around for over 15 years but its only recently become possible outside of a laboratory environment. It isn't in HA yet because no one has bothered to write a module for it and there's almost no WiFi gear that supports it; either natively or through exposing the data necessary to make it work.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Hmm, maybe they need to build it into OpenWRT first, then.

    Either way, the bottom line is that it's completely unacceptable to exist as a feature unless it's 100% Free Software and running 100% locally.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago
    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I'll just wrap my router in aluminium foil, that'll do it.

  • source
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [+] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    So that's how they figure out when to call you.

  • source