Whereas not using a VPN will subject one to... domestic surveillance.

Oh nooo, we won't be protected by the law they can't be arsed to follow anyway? Whatever will I do when they surveil my encrypted VPN traffic?

Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law…

LOL what privacy protections? The NSA has proven time and time again that they don't give a single shit about the law, certainly now more than ever.

So, I am a remote worker in Healthcare. Obviously, I need to use a VPN to connect to work to ensure that communication is secure. But because I have a job that requires secure access, I am a suspected domestic terrorist?

Time to spread the free word of Tor to everyone.

They have been surveiling us for years. They just to maximize what they can collect.

I was under them impression that just using the internet in America might subject you to domestic surveillance.

I don't get it.

Why should a Russian spy have to tell Americans anything?

They spy on domestic communications too, with the 5 eyes arrangement, they have their allies scoop up the information and share it back with them, even as it's just the US doing the entire thing with a couple of foreign names on the masthead. Fucking lawyers.

In contrast to not using a VPN, which subjects them to illegal surveillance already?

VPNs could turn purely domestic communications into “foreign” communications the NSA can legally intercept

Lol. Then they go and immediately say:

and the FBI, somewhat less-legally can dip into at will

In other words, they don't gaf about your sovereignty, and will monitor communications in any way they want, legally or otherwise.

They've been illegally digging into domestic communications for decades. Stallman and Snowden (to name a couple) exposed that a long time ago. Hell, the USA government exposes themselves all the time, the USA people just choose to ignore it.

lol, what a bunch of liars. Americans don't have any privacy protections to waive

Hey, just so you know. Trying to hide from us "totally not spying on you" might force us to totally spy on you.

Technically true, you should choose your VPN provider carefully and not opt for the cheapest one right on.

In practice however, it's safer than whatever surveillance US is trying to implement by forcing down US made routers.

In a letter sent Thursday to Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, the lawmakers say that because VPNs obscure a user’s true location, and because intelligence agencies presume that communications of unknown origin are foreign, Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law.

Several federal agencies, including the FBI, the National Security Agency, and the Federal Trade Commission, have recommended that consumers use VPNs to protect their privacy. But following that advice may inadvertently cost Americans the very protections they’re seeking.

The letter was signed by members of the Democratic Party’s progressive flank: Senators Ron Wyden, Elizabeth Warren, Edward Markey, and Alex Padilla, along with Representatives Pramila Jayapal and Sara Jacobs.

There's a saying in Poland: "Robić kurwę z logiki" Which simultaneously can be translated as "To make a whore out of logic" Or "To turn the logic into a whore"

Are they retards or did they forget the NSA already does this illegally?

Is it safe enough to use vpns based out of the US? I'm using nord which is non us.

I use VPN because it actually speeds up my connection on cellular. My theory is the DNS servers that Verizon uses in my area are inefficient, to the point where I’ll get 1 Mbit down on Verizon, but 100 Mbit down connected to Proton VPN.

It has nothing to do with security, unless I’m in a coffee shop on WiFi.

Edit: here are my speeds on cellular, first without VPN, second while connected to a server in Los Angeles.

This is utter BS.

A foreign national on US soil doesn't get the same protections as a US citizen would overseas.

What they're saying is "fuck 'em all, let God sort 'em out!" for warrantless data searches and collection. And then waiting for the lawsuit 20 years from now about clear violation of the law to bother thinking about this.

I trust my billion-dollar a year law firm’s VPN to block out this nonsense; we've got clients who are way more worried about our security than the government sniffing around.

I don't give a shit.

Come at me. I'm behind 7 firewalls.

Those Senators can gargle some uncooked nuts.

Listen I'm just torrenting movies and music and you don't need to know about. Idgaf if Canada knows.

I'd say a large part of my day is looking for interesting links for the officers and agents in Bothell, WA that have my IP locale originate, so that they can have stuff to their show their spouses/prostitute that they are extorting/your mom after their shift.