Donald Trump erupted at the United Kingdom Tuesday morning over its refusal to join the United States in its war against Iran, issuing the European nation a notice that the United States would no longer be offering it “help.”

“All of those countries that can’t get jet fuel because of the Strait of Hormuz, like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran, I have a suggestion for you: Number 1, buy from the U.S., we have plenty, and Number 2, build up some delayed courage, go to the Strait, and just TAKE IT,” Trump wrote on his social media platform Truth Social.

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[–] 97 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This rant is extra ignorant with a cherry on top.

The UK already gets most of its oil from the US and Norway (sauce)

The Orange Child Rapist apparently did not know oil is a global commodity and therefore all/most oil cost the same around the world. I guess he figured if the USA did not get oil from Iran, US Oil was not going up in price?

What an embarrassment of a country to have this pustule of a person as president (elected twice!)

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago

    oil is a global commodity and therefore all/most oil cost the same around the world.

    The art of the deal guy didn't understand opportunism in pricing? If they're charging more, we can charge more.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Supreme leader trump hs declared that to protect capitalism domestic oil producers are restricted from selling on the global market.

    Patriots must sell oil only to the homeland and forego the global markets.

    CPAC has burst into chants of USA USA and free market analysts on Fox News are calling this an obvious win.

    Comrades, trump has said if any privately owned oil fields produce oil for export he may have to seize the means of production. Truly a new golden age is upon us.

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  • [–] 193 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (21 children)

    I'm beginning to think the hardest job in the entire world is Secret Service Agent. I mean, c'mon, millions of lives are at risk, you're armed, and he's right there. Instant hero. /s

    Edit: forgot /s. Obviously.

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  • [–] 70 points 7 months ago

    True story.

    My buddy used to work for NYC EMS. One day when Clinton was President his ambulance was assigned to an event. He and his partner were chatting with the police when some Secret Service agents walk by. The partner starts ranting about how much he hates the Secret Service.

    One of the police asks him what the Secret Service did that was so bad?

    "This bastards say they'll jump on a grenade for the President, but not one of them jumped on Monica! God damn it, I'm willing to take a blowjob for my country!"

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  • [–] 32 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    Because it went great for the Roman Empire when the Praetorian Guard were the ones choosing the Emperor. You don't really want to open that door.

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  • [–] 36 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    There's a difference between a military coup and a rogue secret service agent killing the fuck and turning himself in.

    He'd sacrifice his life and be arrested and tried, he'd have Luigi level fanfare (though Luigi didn't do it, obviously) and a clear conscious to help him sleep better at night in prison.

    Being not a military coup, it might actually trigger the violent stage of the arguably ongoing civil war, Vance declares martial law and his children and top supporters start calling for the execution of everyone who ever condemned him as retribution.

    The current collapse of the US empire is fast, but it sure as fuck can accelerate. People who think Trump dying solves all problems are heavily over indexing on him as the singular bad guy, he's just a loud symptom of a nasty disease.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    There's a lot of rot, but they've been depending on a cluster of personality. Those often collapse when the personality dies without a sucessor with popular support, which requires the cult leader to groom the public to their sucessor.

    The thing with Trump is he has too much ego for that, and Vance doesn't have the loyalty of the MAGA militant.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    Right, which is why they would kick it up a 100 noches. Once he's gone, they'll use everything in their power to remain in power, they won't just go away silently.

    Vance doesn't have the loyalty, which is why Trump's kids will rile them up on the idea of revenge, they won't be fighting for cancer, they'll be fighting for Trump "alongside" Vance.

    Democrats will condemn the violence of the assassin, they'll call for unity and give long eulogies for Trump, they'll say it's time to unite and denounce violence. Slowly, Vance will become the new figure head, or be replaced through a coup if unable, but the power won't change. The coup won't come from opposition, it'll come from within.

    History gives us plenty of cases where killing the strongman did not end the system. Caesar’s murder helped trigger civil war and an “avenge the leader” politics. https://www.history.com/articles/julius-caesar-assassination-fall-roman-republic

    Park Chung-hee’s assassination opened a succession crisis that Chun Doo-hwan used for an internal coup under martial law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_South_Korean_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

    Trujillo’s killing did not kill the machine, his family and loyalists tried to preserve it amid chaos. Indira Gandhi’s assassination becme a pretext for mass revenge on a broader population. https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1958-60v05mSupp/dr_d21

    So yes, cult regimes are vulnerable when the central personality dies, but that vulnerability often shows up first as repression, martyrdom, and a fight inside the ruling group, not a clean collapse.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    I'd expect this will escalate quickly once Vance takes power. He doesn't have the car salesman personality Trump has, and I don't think he'll maintain the MAGA following but Peter Thiel put him there for a reason. Vance will have to speed it up.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    The US has tried assassination of it's presidents twice already. No matter the lunatic in charge murdering democratically elected leaders is not the way. There are mechanisms to pursue Trump that should be used.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    So it wouldn't have been right to kill Hitler even though he took dictatorial control? It can easily be argued that once a democratically elected leader moves to nullify elections, purges non political government positions, and starts to ignore the authority of other elected positions, that their contract as a democratic leader is null and void. We're already there with Trump on all accounts. Him starting a war without congressional approval should make it obvious that he will take every shred of power the other branches have left given enough time. His position isn't the only one we vote on, but he will ensure that no other result matters.

    Besides, he plans to stay in office until he dies, and if he corrupts the military with enough loyalists by 2028, he'll succeed. The only mechanism to remove him will be him dying and hoping his replacements are too weak to maintain the grift. I don't say this as a call to action, but a statement of fact.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Oh feel free to kill Trump if he becomes a dictator like Hitler. Or you know, persecute him before that.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    bruh, genuinely where have you been? There is a gestapo loyal to Trump who round up his culture war scapegoats. There are concentration camps that hold immigrants in perpetuity. I could literally get sent to one of those camps for being trans if that gestapo ever carded me, something they could easily do thanks to racial profiling. If that did happen, not only would I be denied my hormones while in captivity, I could be medically tortured by psychoactive drugs in the hope that it causes lasting psychological damage.

    I'm sorry, but Trump is already a Hitler like dictator, and you're ignorant beyond belief if you truly don't realize that.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I mean... the first instance of that was replacing Caligula with Claudius. It just kinda went south after that.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    I used to think that they are defending the office, rather than the individual. And that is the honorable thing to do regardless of the person. But when you see them assisting that person to stage an assasination, I realised they are in the cult too.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The SS? Clue might be in the name, there.

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  • [–] 87 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    He's so incredibly stupid; honestly the biggest moron I've ever seen in any government.

    He started this war, he didn't think it through - it was well known attacking Iran would lead to them closing the strait of hormuz, and it would be extremely difficult to open it without a ground invasion. Israel has wanted to go after Iran for decades but every US president had common sense and said no. Trump has done what no President has ever done. The US allies are not stupid enough to be drawn into the this pointless war as it's unwinnable.

    Now this so-called "business man" doesn't even know how global markets work. You remove 20% of the oil supply, then prices go up because demand goes up - you still have 100% of demand. The US isn't protected from that as a net shale oil/gas exporter.

    First: everyone in the world is bidding for oil and gas supplies so it goes to the highest bidder; thats how a market works - everyone ends up paying more including americans. Second: the US is a net exporter but it also imports a lot of gas and oil. It's exports are driven by Liquid Natural Gas. But it imports Crude Oil, because it can't produce enough of that for domestic demand. Third: As energy prices go up, you get "demand destruction". In other words, some activities are no longer economical as the price of oil and gas is too high and obliterates profits. That means the global economy goes into decline - a recession. And the US is in no way insulated from that - it is totally integrated into the global economy.

    Trump has fucked over the US, allies like the UK, Canada and EU and the rest of the world. This isn't his allies' war, and they're not getting involved - it's politically toxic and it'd just escalate this mess. Trump can get frustrated at the mess he's made and lash out as much as he wants, but he can't get away from this mess. He has two choices and both are shit: Invade Iran with troops or admit defeat and cave into the Iran's demands. I suspect he will cave in and try and spin this as a "victory".

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  • [–] 212 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Meanwhile the UK is hosting USA bombers. Grow a pair - kick them out and close airspace until they show some gratitude.

    European nation

    Not if some of them can help it.

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  • [–] 82 points 7 months ago*

    As with most developed "democracies", the UK's political class are too busy cashing the cheques of their corporate overlords to display any actual morals or virtue. They are bottom-feeders who only know how to bottom-feed.

    e.g. opposing genocide is terrorism!

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  • [–] 72 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Funny to think that the UK thought one of the advantages of Brexit was that the USA and the UK could now finally get as close as they wanted without the interference of the EU.

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  • [–] 57 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    All friendships burned, all choices burning themselves, digging their own grave deeper and deeper. Total collapse is inevitable.

    Remember all those Hollywood productions about post apocalypse worlds, only showing the US? I always wondered how the rest of the world would be. I guess just normal, it's just the US being a post apocalypse hell hole.

    And Trump did all of that just to try to distract everyone from him being a pedo sex offender buddy of Epstein.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    He is doing that because there is profit to be made.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Well that, and the footage they got of him decades ago in Moscow when he tried to get his businesses up over there. Golden showers and whatnot they say. By now it should be obvious to everyone what his assignment is: Final blow in the divide and conquer scheme that has been running in US since the soviet days. Social media and of course China joining the cause behind the curtains really gave this campaign a big boost.

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  • [–] 46 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    build up some delayed courage, go to the Strait, and just TAKE IT

    Do it yourself idiot! 🤮 🤡

    But USA can't, and if they try they will just be further humiliated.
    Maybe Trump thinks the military is refusing his orders, so he wants UK to do it for him instead.
    The man is insane and has dementia on top of that. Congratulations to the Americans that elected him, you are the laughing stock of the world, especially those that want to harm USA.

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  • [–] 45 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    If it’s so easy you just TAKE IT.

    Is it not easy?

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  • [–] 37 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Once again the "most powerful military on earth" has to beg for help to defeat a single rogue state, and throws a tantrum when they don't get it.

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    [–] 33 points 7 months ago

    Uhm...turns out...the green transition was a core security policy. That is why maga, russia, gulf countries were against it...

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago

    Trump: "Go to the strait and just take it" Spain: "OK." Trump: "WAIT NO NOT LIKE THAT"

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    *'Go get your own oil!' Trump tells UK the US won't 'help you anymore' in latest furious rant

    What a boorish sack of shit, Jesus Christ, dealing with that man on a daily basis must be fucking exhausting.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    dealing with that man on a daily basis must be fucking exhausting.

    Yes, but only for people with functioning brains

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    hey, I'm a certified idiot and even I can't take any more of this! I have these primal instincts of trying to stay alive and reproduce, and I find that my chances at both are highly correlated with being decent to the other members of my race (humans, I mean). No brain, no problem!

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    So the US has more naval power than the whole of Europe together, and they need help fixing the mess they started?

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    We (the UK) don't need oil from the Strait of Hormuz. Most of that goes to Asian countries.

    They're far more likely just to pay Iran a nominal amount to keep it flowing.

    The UK actually imports more from the US than anywhere else. We should stop propping up tinpot regimes, and buy from local friendly countries, or better still, just use a lot less of it.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    This being is the embodyment of pure evil. The accumulated evil and greed of the whole of America.

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  • I’m so tired

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  • [–] 37 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    the U.S.A. won’t be there to help you anymore

    They weren't helping anyone else before.

    At best, they were helping themselves (mostly) without actively interfering with others ability to do the same.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    No dispute on all the many many harms done or anything in that vein, I'll never defend the US for countless things.

    BUT there was some arguably good, compassionate work done that was effectively dismantled recently, and we shouldn't lose that detail.

    We should remember that the federal govt for a country this huge can never be a monolith (and I do also mean that encouragingly, moving forward...).

    We should remember also, that many quiet, gentle people who fundamentally deeply dislike the lived experience of the rat-race of capitalism - paradoxically find themselves seeking the stability and straightforward "work toward an anodyne but useful purpose" offered by many federal government sub-branch-agency-bureau whatevers. Too many to list in my already long comment, that function(ed) both as jobs programs, but also ways that decent Americans end up - by dint of sheer math - placing a very different set of moral values and actions into the broader US govt conduct.

    Not a thing to give up quietly, but of course the bigger disasters (again, no dispute, there are many, and probably engineered to be such) will necessarily consume all oxygen in the room, so to speak.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    that's the plus side to the system? some very quiet people were gently making very small gestures?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    Lol cool drive-by from an intentionally uncharitable read of what I said. "The plus side"?

    Here's what I think - I think you don't have the first clue what I was talking about in specific, like the jobs and programs canceled, what they were, what they did. I think you squinted and saw the barest seed of pro-US sentiment (not really there) and took the opportunity to lob some very boring and poorly-constructed snark.

    If you have an actual point to make, feel free of course. That option was already there for you though and you chose not to take it, so I don't have high hopes.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago

    Maybe we can build even more big beautiful windmills.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    At least the ruling class isn’t hiding behind diplomacy anymore while they rape and pillage the world. They are showing their true colors in their political and economic wars and in their personal behaviors (Epstein).

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    And yet during this entire thing, like a battered spouse, Starmer has still been allowing US planes to use their bases. And will continue to do so.

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago*

    Yes please, stop helping. And thank you! See? I didn't forget to say it.

    But really, you have done more than enough. A LOT more. Some would say you have done way too much. Get on your couch, turn on the tv, order a Big Mac and please, please, stop helping.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    And just like with Venezuela the Oil Motive for war becomes obvious. Greedy old dumbass dinosaurs still think oil is worth killing for instead of working on the many alternatives that we have already available.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I remember (from an energy conference sometime around 2002-4(?)), a sentiment shared by Patent Office whistle blower Tom Valone, something to the effect of: "By the year 2000 there had already been over 3000 free energy device patents secreted".

    And some people still think if any such innovation existed, we'd have it. Oblivious to how big energy orchestrates the market to maintain our dependence on manufactured-scarce energy sources they can put a meter on. Even though Nikola Tesla wanted to power the world for free, a century ago.

    We have so much headroom without the crooks.

    Someone please explain to the billionaire parasites, even they can be better off with the emancipatory technologies de-secreted, availed, and provisioned, to each and all.

    Among the many benefits: No more circularly reasoned "resource wars".

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    We will! And it'll have blackjack ... and hookers!

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  • [–] 28 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    What is a king if his crown is worthless? Not a man of the people, but surrounded by cultists. Praised by the loudest, loved by the thoughtless. Crowned not by honor, but by lies that were endless.

    His walls crumble as whispers grow louder, Causing once-shaking hands to grip blades ever prouder. The throne he once clutched, now colder than stone, His fate sealed by the seeds of ruin he'd sown.

    He feasts while his kingdom is left to rot, Drunk on his power yet blind to the plot. A puppet on strings, now tangled and caught. If he ends up dead, then that is his lot.

    The crown on his head, a mockery now, A hollow gold band on a sweat-ridden brow. No glory remains, no trumpets resound, Only silence and ash on the burning ground.

    Betrayed not by foes but those he called his closest friends,

    Their daggers ensuring his rule meets its end. No prayers are whispered, no mourners will weep, For kings who sow torment shall fall just as deep.

    When he ends up dead, the people have spoken, A crown polished with falsehood is a crown that is broken. And a kingdom built on cruelty is one which ends with dread,

    The crown on his corpse was always a crown of the dead.

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    I broke it, you fix it.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    At some point, some world leader should do a dressing down of this fuckface right there in the world stage.

    Edit: Trudeau was too polite: https://youtube.com/shorts/G0va-McELJE

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Even in that statement he seems to suggest taking oil from another sovereign country. Taking over other countries is sadly our British history, but not current practice, unlike the US.

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