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[–] 206 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I remember growing up seeing Foster Farms commercials saying they don't do this. It was the main theme of nearly all their ads.

When I was a teenager, I got a job at the local Foster Farms plant. My job was part of the process of injecting the chicken with saline. 😬

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  • [–] 75 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    In the US they do. In Canada it's illegal.

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  • [–] 160 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Mandatory "in the US".

    While this one is technically legal in the EU, it would require labeling the salty water as an ingredient if it changes the weight significantly.

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  • [–] 37 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I can assure you that meat in the Netherlands is also filled up with water. Pretty much all meat sold in the super markets will when cooked first release the water, causing the meat to boil for a bit before it is evaporated. They don't have to mention it on the packaging if it's below 5%, which means in reality it's closer to 10%. Since the Netherlands exports a lot of meat, it'll be all over at least Europe.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Meat, in general, has a lot of water. It having water is not evidence of this technique. If your meat somehow doesn't have water then you need to be extra concerned.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    Sure, but the water tends to come out during freezing, and to make up for that, they inject water before hand. Like I said, anything below 5% doesn't have to be reported, which gets stretched to 10% so they can make up for the loss a second time.

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    And basically all frozen chicken in US stores has been pumped full of brine. That includes raw chicken parts that look otherwise unprocessed.

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Not only that. That's the way most people like it. How many people here are equipped at home to brine their own chicken and turkey on any given day? It costs manufacturers more to ship that way as well due to the extra water weight. But chicken can often be dry enough as it is. If you're grilling, baking for preparing chicken in any way that doesn't involve cooking it in a sauce or reduction. You absolutely want it brined generally.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Brining chicken isn’t terribly hard. Just a ziplock and some salt water with seasoning. (Or leftover pickle juice.)

    The problem is that if you want chicken now you’re gonna need a time machine to go back 12-24 hours to brine the chicken, and people will pay for convenience.

    Brining a turkey requires large and specialized equipment, though.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    How many people here are equipped at home to brine their own chicken and turkey on any given day?

    literally everyone that owns a bucket, salt and has access to water... do you think brining a bird is some fancy thing that requires specialized equipment? soak a bird in salt water... add spices if you want. done...

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Have resources would have been a clearer choice of words. Most don't have the resource of time.

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    They also do this to beef, pork, and a bunch of other meats in the US. The higher water content is part of the reason preservation methods don't work as well.

    For instance, trying to make Jerry out of water injected beef means you have to dry out the added water in addition to what was in the meat to start with, and you can't use the post drying weight to calculate if it is dry enough.

    Plus poking the holes to add the water is one more vector for bacteria...

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  • [–] 44 points 7 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Hey he started both those wars.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Huh, I don't remember that episode of Seinfeld.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Jerry was the name of ze germans in ww1.

    Funny you mentioned Jerry seinfeld, I used to really like him until I found out he's a big Zionist. So he is a Nazi himself fyi. Fuck that guy Larry David's okay.

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago

    Great way to cheat the customer and also ruin recipes that don't take into consideration that cups of salt water will come out while cooking the chicken.

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Not in sane places, it doesn't.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Also to help packaging n shelf life. Chicken production and processing facilities are both morally and biologically disgusting.

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  • [+] -2 points 7 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    Ill agree that what we do to most chickens is deplorable. That said words are made by humans w certain meanings. Murder is reserved for something human and something unlawful.

    Maybe mass slaughter? conveyor belt slaughtering?

    Weird fact. Did you know a human once decapitated a chicken and it still lived for a year? Google it if you don't believe.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    That said words are made by humans w certain meanings.

    And these humans have a vested interest in making sure that a death of their own is treated differently than a death of a chicken. That human lives are somehow more precious, sacred whereas those of pigs and chickens meaningless.

    Of course this is reflected in human language. This is like excusing racism in english by "well the english made those words up w certain meanings" here is a good video about "the oppressors language" in a different context https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYpM0qF9kZY .

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago

    In Norway, chicken without added salt and water has become the norm after producers were made to inform how much of each is added. Also, one of the triopol groceries here has wholly switched from Ross chickens, so that is a good trend for animal welfare.

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    I moved to Portugal last year and I can say that the supermarket chicken here does need a lot more seasoning (to my taste) than US chicken did. I am hoping it will help cut down my overall salt intake.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    same with prepacked bacon. fuck you foster farms.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The only bacon I buy now is thick stuff from Costco (there are two or three brands that are good at my local one), or from a butcher shop. and not even all the stuff from Costco is decent, they still carry the shitty watered down thin fatty stuff.

    nothing else is worth it. I will gladly pay $22/kg for bacon that doesn't suck and two slices are an actual serving rather than $24/kg for a tiny shitty 400g package that contains basically just one serving. but I'm also buying it only occasionally in the first place.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    There should be a class action lawsuit against Tyson and Perdue,.etc. We pay by the pound for chicken, not saltwater.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Same for many meats. Red meats are often sealed with O2 to appear redder.or "fresher" than was natural, for many extra days on the shelf.

    Meat not from a butcher is usually the lowest quality and actually more expensive considering the liquid weights.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Not O2 but CO. You want to reduce oxidation, not increase it. Carbon monoxide bonds to hemoglobin 200x better than oxygen does and that keeps the hemoglobin red. Oxidation is what causes meat to turn brown.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago*

    I can cook a whole packed pan of chicken wings (on top of each other) and when they are done there is 3 inches of space between them and a huge pool of liquid in the drip pan. It's insane how much they can inject in them.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    There are valid reasons to brine a chicken, this is just an extreme way to do so. The salt affects how muscle proteins behave during cooking, partially it prevents them contracting too much, thus in turn preventing the muscles from squeezing out so much liquid that they become dry. lower temperature cooking for a longer time can achieve the same effect and won’t dilute the flavor of the chicken.

    Any reasonable step of preparation like brining poultry can be taken too far or done excessively, especially by companies seeking to maximize shareholder value by selling as little product as possible for the highest price. pre-brining chicken isn’t always bad, but it’s not always what you want.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    Hmmm capitalism.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Well... Not really in Denmark. At least not salt water.

    Packaging on chicken often has it written on the from if there is any water inside, and if I'm not mistaken, it's not allowed to exceed a certain percentage.

    There may be reasons why people might specifically want to buy chicken with water inside, so some supermarkets here sell both, one that has an statement on the amount of water inside, and another that will say "ikke tilsat vand".

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    not allowed to exceed a certain percentage

    America fired all the inspector-types, though, as conservative governments usually do on about day 1. So now consumers get to protect themselves the same way they 'did their own' epidemiological research in the last pandemic.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    The turkeys I buy on sale in bulk when I can, 50 cents a pound, have 15% of a salt solution with some other salted bullshit some phosphate or I don't know I've been meaning to look it up. Probably not great for you though knowing the US Food supply.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Not just chicken, basically anything that says "VALUE ADDED" on it. The saltwater is the value.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    this is what got the wife and I to start gettin organic which dod not seem to get the injections. Normal chicken was so bad my wife started callin it frankenchicken. We have noticed they must have backed off a bit as we have gotten it once or twice on extreme loss leader sales and it was not quite as bad as we remember. Still the organic seems better and the cost is offset by actually getting meat instead of water.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    And if they add caramel, they can advertise it as salted caramel chicken! I mean, why not? Everything else is salted caramel. Disgusting stuff.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Air chilled chicken FTW

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    vegetableatarian

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Air chilled chicken does not have the same brine issue. I've only ever seen it sold as organic, but it is worth it to avoid the brine issues.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    I’d definitely like to identify ones that have not been - these days it can be a challenge to sear chicken on the stovetop because of all the water.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Hard to believe 500 milligrams of sodium has no taste. I've boiled lots of chicken and theres never been enough salt to taste in it without I add a lot

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    Almost all meat you buy at the supermarket has brine. Even things like ground beef.

    Also meat glue.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    People didn't know this?

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Buy meat at the butcher's

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago*

    Yeah it's just brining. 30% and 500mg is crazy though. My local supermarket (and I checked-also walmart) value pack of chicken is 2% and about 50mg sodium per serving, which is pretty negligible. And it does make the chicken jucier.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    At least chicken is salt brined, ready for owen.

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