I assume everyone on Lemmy uses GrapheneOS on a Pixel 7 or LineageOS flashed onto a LG Tribute with zero Google apps, and everything backed up via nextcloud running on a headless Debian Raspberry Pie?

I'm just a scrub using stock Android. Am I the only one?

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[–] 62 points 7 months ago* (7 children)

We're still working on publishing the results of the census we ran a few months ago (sample size of around 600, where most users were from our Lemmy/Piefed instances)

Here is the graph for the phone question, exact numbers pending final cleanup:

We will also be fixing the data labels to be less terrible

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    They use their own SailfishOS

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    so... no one is using that?

    I had assumed it was reasonably popular.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I have no idea how popular it is but Ubuntu Touch and Postmarket have a wider device compatibility so I'd guess those will statistacally have to be more popular.

    Jolla is a niche within a niche and has limited availability last I checked. Which is a shame as they seem to be offering some sort of compatibility layer that seems to enable you to just install Android apps. I'd love to see that on the others.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I use Ubuntu Touch on Fairphone 4 with Nextcloud backup (self hosted).

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    You got me, I have GrapheneOS on a pixel 8a. Seems like Android's only getting worse, so I'm going to do my best to never go back now. I've had it for nearly a year and I'm super happy with it, everything works just the way I want it. My only concern is the small battery meaning it often only has 30% charge left by the end of the night.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I have my Pixel 9 plugged in the majority of the time so I've had the cap max battery setting turned on since I got it so it only ever goes up to 80%. I'm hoping this keeps the battery in good health for at least five or six years so I can keep using this thing.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago*

    Just switched to Graphene on a refurbished 10 Pro XL
    Prior to that was a RedMagic 10 Pro

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago*

    I have GrapheneOS on a Pixel 9a with everything backed up over NextCloud on a headless Ubuntu rackmount server.

    You were waaaaay off 😆

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Pixel 9 with Graphene OS. I don't really bother with backups besides my personal photos since there's nothing critical on my phone. But I use immich for photos hosted on my unraid server.

    I do have two backup Raspberry Pis, one at my house and one at a friend's, that my photos and other critical data is backed up to daily.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I keep buying motorolas because they're rugged as fuck. I get a new one every 3-5 years. They're all the same-ish these days, and rarely come with any sort of incentive or discount, so it doesn't make sense to refesh too often. I try to get my money's worth from my devices.

    Can't tell you how many samsungs my kids have broken, but both of their motos still work.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Can confirm, Motorola makes some pretty rugged phones. I had my T-Mobile Revvlry+ (based on the Motorola G7 but different camera) for like 7 years.

    After the power button literally took a shit, I opened it up to see if I could fix it. Somehow they managed to seal the buttons in an aluminum block, completely non-serviceable, so I just kept using it for another 6 months or so, using the charging cable to wake it from sleep.

    Knowing the phone was on its way out (oh yeah I forgot to mention the busted screen), I backed everything up, got sick and tired of the thing, and broke it in half by hand. And oh boy that phone was tougher to break than I thought..

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Samsung Galaxy S9+

    I'm unwilling to get a more modern phone because of all the AI bullshit being shoved into them nowadays. Unlike most of Lemmy, I'm not smart enough to install and fully configure GrapheneOS to work without hiccups. So I remain with this old phone until it quits on me.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    If you actually want to do it, have faith in yourself. It's not that hard if you read the guide and watch a YouTube video or two. You're probably smarter than you give yourself credit.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago

    iPhone 15 here. I gave up on android because Google seemed obsessed with borrowing the most annoying UI features from iOS and just doing them poorly.

    Now I’m on the other side and don’t like it here either.

    Next phone will be a dumb phone, I think. If my toys always make me angry they’re not good toys for me.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Motorola with their nearly-stock Android.

    Excited about upcoming Motos with Graphene, though =]

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Same for the excitement. I'm just hoping they don't release an 'innovated' device no better than a Pixel. There's been a growing trend of even Motorolas coming with less and less. It's more than a little alarming.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I cann't afford a pixel, what would make them think I'd be able to afford a new, flagship motorola? Why won't they support other populat phones?

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  • Graphene on a Pixel 8a. One of the few currently viable options, in my eyes.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Sony Xperia 1 IV. Their naming scheme is terrible.

    Main reason is because I wanted a future-proof, flagship phone with a headphone jack and micro SD card slot. Both have proven very useful, and I am still kind of in shock that most manufacturers have dropped them.

    Stock android. Still using the NoVa launcher because I haven't had the free time to try out others, plus my pi-hole seems to block the ads they have been introducing for now.

    The Xperia has a weirdly narrow screen. I like it in a vacuum better than todays phablets, but I think the occasional webpage scales weirdly.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Fairphone 6 with Android. Waiting for Motorola+GrapheneOS phone.

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    There's still over a year of OEM support left with official support etc, but have you started thinking about what to use after that? A newer pixel? Motorola? Something else entirely?

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    iPhone 14 Pro

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    Fairphone 6 with e/OS

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Lineage OS on a pixel 8

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I wish. Using a pixel 6 here, not looking forward to when I need to replace it.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    iPhone with plans to switch to GrapheneOS on a pixel soon.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    S24 Ultra. Will be my last Android with the way things are going.

    Being on an iPhone for 11 years and then going to Android was a jaw dropping experience.

    But now no more sideloading and Nova Launcher went to shit with ads after the owners sold (out).

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago*

    The FOSS launcher Lawnchair is actually pretty great. Took some setting up, but now it does everything nova did for me.

    Sideloading though, yeah I really hope that doesn't go through. Fun fact even now I can't use a local gov't because I have an accessibility service running that was 'sideloaded' (it's from Lawnchair, if you want double tap to lock you need it)

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I have a pixel 6 pro running the stock OS. I will run it until it is on its last legs and decide where to go next. To use banking and government apps here, I'm somewhat limited in my choices.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    I need an SD slot and headphone jack so I'm on a Motorola g 25. I got it a couple months ago. It's pretty good so far. I chad an LG v20 prior to that.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    I honestly don't know. When my phone dies I go to the nearest phone store and ask for the cheapest android phone they have in stock. They ask me what brand I want, what features are important to me--cheapest. They warn me that the camera isn't as good as OtherPhone's--cheapest. And the battery...--cheapest.

    If I had to venture a guess I'd say it's a Redmi? And I suppose it's bad.
    It was 150€ 4 years ago. I can't fathom sinking 500€ on a phone.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    GrapheneOS on a refurbished pixel 10 from ebay

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    Librem 5.

    Cons: Storage and RAM small. Battery so-so.

    Pros: I haven't seen a single other phone I would rather own. Android and iOS are dumb as hell. Terrible OSes, in my opinion.

    I want a Liberty Phone but can't justify the money. This works well enough for me. I will almost certainly be buying the L5 successor.

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    Nope.

    Well, I don't use any banking apps, personally. My understanding is that they don't work under Waydroid.

    Other Android apps mostly work fine in Waydroid, so long as they don't need access to GPS or camera to work properly.

    I removed Waydroid a while back, though, as I only needed it for one app and Waydroid took up almost 1/3 of the storage on the phone. It just wasn't worth it, and I am happier to be rid of the Android ecosystem anyways.

    I should mention that the Linux phone life is NOT for everyone.

    I should also mention that battery life is still not anywhere close to competitors. Camera is meh but improves with updates.

    For my use cases (Phone/SMS/MMS, Lemmy, Mastodon, and a few other apps), it works totally fine and has proven to be reliable enough for almost 3 years. It gets better with age due to updates.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    S24 FE. I hate all the recent changes Samsung has been doing but this phone should last me until 2030 at least, probably more. I'm also the only person on Lemmy who likes OneUI, and I'm OK with that now that all alternative launchers are enshittifying.

    By the time I need to replace it, the market will probably be in an entirely different place and maybe even some Linux versions could be more viable.

    I use Immich, bitwarden, mega, and Tuta. Which covers the backup of everything.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    GrapheneOS on a Pixel 8a, Google apps in a separate profile, local backup to a separate drive using rsync, notes/calendar/notes synced to nextcloud running on hetzner VPS. So pretty much same as everyone else here.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Nothing Phone 1, one of the best phones I've ever used, utilise the glyph system often and hope to upgrade at some point to a Nothing Phone 3.

    Plus it's not from the US, so perfect for me.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    Nothing phone 2 here, been a great phone but I bought a new CMF phone and had to remove a bunch of forced AI bullshit using adb so I don't think if buy another nothing phone. Still a nice piece of hardware sadly

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    /e/os on Fairphone 4

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Switched from an iPhone Air to a Pixel 9a with grapheneOS.

    Way cheaper, safer, I have learned a ton about security and self hosting and learned to love computers again.

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    GrapheneOS on a Pixel 6a. Technically have a few Google apps, but they are only banking/governmental stuff and one gacha game (which I primarily play on a tablet anyway). Too lazy to set up Nextcloud myself, but I do have a VPS I rent... and I used to have a local RasPi running PiHole

    I am apparently a bit too uncomfortably close to the exact stereotype OP listed

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    GrapheneOS on a Pixel 8a

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    Pixel 6 pro with Graphene OS

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    Pixel 9, GrapheneOS

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Pixel 8 stock, haven't gotten around to Graphene OS yet and a little worried it won't work with my bank/credit card apps. I think I can revert to stock if things don't work for me so I might try soon.

    I really miss my LG G8 though.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I just finished a clean reflash of LineageOS on my Nothing Phone 1 without any closed source apps except for minecraft android (played with a clip on controller). If i find a reliable way to play actual java versions i will remove my google account from my phone and go full open source.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    There's PoJav Launcher. Pretty sure it's OSS. I don't have too much experience with it, but it seems to launch the game fine.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    I know pojav but its not maintained anymore just like amethyst it seems...

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Fairphone4

    Im jelly of people who can run GrapheneOS, I can lead others to water but can not drink...

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    GrapheneOS on a pixel 8

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    Nothing Phone 2

    Don't really like the newer models because the glyphs have decreased loads.

    RGB glyphs would be pretty cool, ones you could program yourself

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Still have an iPhone 12 mini. Will upgrade to like the iPhone 18 pro or something. I'm waiting until this stops getting software updates first.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Galaxy xcover 6 pro. Still have both 3.5mm jack and replaceable battery.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Galaxy S24 ultra here

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    Pixel 6a stock

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    LG G2 (2013) with LineageOS

    imma use it till 2038, i even have spares

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    iPhone 13 mini, which I will stick with until Apple ships another one-handed phone.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Xiaomi 13t, 1TB storage, Leica camera, bought used.

    It's very good, except the insanely aggressive clean up policy; you watch youtube on FF, switch out to check something and back, youtube is gone...

    With 8(+8) GB RAM i could probably use it as a daily Linux driver but there is no linux for it. Will switch to like graphene when I can.

    /Sorry infodump

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    Pixel9a with GrapheneOS installed

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Nokia n gauge

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Oppo Reno 12, running on Android - via Oppo's "ColorOS", which is ok.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    uses GrapheneOS on a Pixel 7 or LineageOS flashed onto a LG Tribute with zero Google apps, and everything backed up via nextcloud running on a headless Debian Raspberry Pie?

    Hey now, it's a Pixel 8 and Raspbian.

    Two google apps in a separate profile with a different pin

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I use stock android but hate smartphones and only own it because of a previous job that required one but gave a monthly comp so you had to get one. I keep minimal apps on it. have it shutoff most times. I use it for phone calls and camera mostly with maybe maps and calendar. I have f-droid to avoid google apps but the stock camera works better than my alternate app so I use that for photos more.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Well google just renabled automatic app updates and it broke a bunch of my apps because I get the pre adware/spyware/buyout version of apps. So ive been in the market the last week for a graphene phone. Seems pretty likely ill get a stock android phone thats supported by grapheneOS and flash it myself, im uncomfortable with buying a pre used $200 phone.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Why are you uncomfortable buying a used phone? I've only ever bought used phones.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    My financial situation means that if that phone fails to work or breaks rapidly, the loss of that $200 is extremely consequential. Odds are lower that an unused phone will break within the 5 years i need them to last

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I use a Samsung S23 with the standard Android system.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Grapheneos on my pixel 9, perfectly complements my PC with Arch :3

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