And what a surprise; they’re talking about solving it by cutting the needs of the poor instead of the luxuries of the rich.
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Addressing this crisis — and preventing recurrence — requires two specific legislative actions.
First, Congress should pass the bipartisan H.R. 3289 — Fiscal Commission Act, sponsored by Rep. Bill Huizenga (R-MI), Rep. Scott Peters (D-CA), and 41 co-sponsors. Such a commission would force a public reckoning with the facts, the trade-offs, and the hard choices that restoring fiscal health requires.
Second, Congress should call an Article V Convention limited to proposing a fiscal responsibility amendment to the U.S. Constitution. H.Con.Res. 15, sponsored by Rep. Jodey Arrington (R-TX), would do exactly that.
This is a scare piece that tries to equate a national budget with home savings math and then says the only way to fix it is to use Republican austerity measures. Fuck them.
Only took them six paragraphs to pivot to the good ol “imagine the US is like your household…” fallacy.
He bankrupted a casino! Let us repeat that again... He bankrupted a casino!
Yes, he can bankrupt our country. Yes he did.
And again, the simpsons was right S15E3
Interesting read but title is extreme hyperbole.
Is it not literally true?
It is not literally true. The author is making the claim that the US is insolvent based on book assets and liabilities, but the finances of a government are very different from other financial entities where this simple view is no longer accurate. The US has unique assets, such as the ability to tax its citizens or manipulate its own currency to satisfy debt. What is the value of infinite money or the power to obtain it on demand? Thus, the government has theoretically unlimited assets that are not directly comparable to any business or individual. It can make assets out of thin air.
Insolvency only becomes relevant for governments when they’re unable to satisfy debts and investors no longer believe that they will be repaid. The short-term bond markets are still strongly of the opinion that US debt is virtually risk free. Until we see a large spike in short-term interest rates, insolvency? Absolutely that’s hyperbole. By that assets-based definition, most governments are insolvent right now.
Not missed it. Not reported on because of fear of reprisals and majority of the media is right winged so it doesn't suit their narrative. The media in the US is completely controlled now. Freedom of the press is now a feverdream.
Finding the Money. Worth a watch: https://findingmoneyfilm.com/
Fourteen years ago:
📺 Greenspan: "The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that"
turns out empires aren't forever
It’s just the usual trash from the usual suspects. It would be cool if this were a sign of the empire in decline, but it’s really not.
The thing is that there is a real consequence within the framework of the system. While they can issue infinite currency, the two problems they have are inflation and debt payments. Inflation devalues the currency, while higher debt payments mean that there's less operational budget available. So, end result ends up being less money available for productive purposes as more and more of the budget ends up being allocated towards interest.
less operational budget available
For what? Did you read the article? They care about:
- Federal employees
- Medicare
- Social Security
- Comparing government budgets to household budgets
Seriously? These are the “productive” purposes that are problematic?
If these cranks actually cared about debt, they’d be proposing taxes on the rich and ending the MIC. The article is complete shit and doesn’t actually present any material change in the US debt posture or their ability to “pay” interest on their debt level.
I did read the article, but I also understand other factors that the article doesn't talk about. So, I can use that broader understanding to contextualize what high levels of debt mean in practice.
The debt, and payments on interest, might cause more inflationary pressure than eliminating it would cause.
I think they could just print 39 trillion dollar coins and instantly pay off the debt.
The key context is how the system actually works though. The government doesn’t just print cash and hand it out. Typically, they issue Treasury bonds instead with the understanding that the government will pay back later with interest. These bonds are then bought up by pension funds, foreign governments, big financial institutions, etc.
When the government prints too much money or issues too many bonds, the bond holders start getting awful nervous about their investment. They wonder if the dollars they get back in ten years will be worth the paper they’re printed on. So they demand a higher yield to cover the risk. It’s not unlike a credit card company jacking up your rate when you miss a payment.
Rising bond yields, in turn, make the government’s interest payments go up. Bigger and bigger checks need to be paid to the people who lent the money, which reduces the operational budget. Today, that sum is sitting at something like a trillion dollars a year. It’s money that’s just flowing out of the treasury and straight into the accounts of bondholders.
This seems like an entirely self-created problem by designing a system where the government doesn't just print cash.
Of course, but it works in the interest of the oligarchs, so here we are.
I imagine a system where the government just prints cash, would have a whole slew of other problems and issues, and would likely be less stable/viable than the current mess. The current approach has flaws, but if managed properly, remains viable for a long time -- most of the flaws that become existential threats, only show up after years of neglect or willful corruption, such as in the USA.
The recent historical money printing (bonds have to be repaid, and not technically printing) is QE = Quantitative Easing. The Fed makes up money, and uses it to buy real bonds, under the theoretical possible future of reselling the bonds later. It gives the interest paid on those bonds back to the treasury. While the activity is absurd, it tends to inflate bond prices (lower interest rates) because easy money is to buy bonds before Fed buys them back from you.
Yup, that's also a mechanic that's being increasingly used. And with more money available and cheaper credit stimulates demand for goods, services, and assets. So you end up with increased amount of money chasing a relatively stable supply, which ultimately pushes general price levels higher, hence the process is inflationary.
I wish I could read the full article. I’m super surprised that fortune put out that kind of statement?
Or is this market manipulation, of shots about to crash does everyone sell and then the richos buy everything at rock bottom? I thought fortune was all mmhmm capitalism money glory to the empire?
I can see it just fine, but here’s an archive link if you really want to read unfounded debt fearmongering https://archive.ph/9Gtaw
Yikes you weren’t kidding. That article is trash ass.
Ohhh nooo the debts! Ohhh nooo hard decisions! Ohhhh nooo if the gdp doesn’t grow and spending increases….! Insolvent!
Buy some fucking everclear for solvent! Idk, money is fake can we take care of people???
I hate this
Money printer goes brrrr, so long as it’s to fund genocide.
But like…. What if we didn’t???! :( ugh. It’s so depressing.
Then the commies would win. Those authoritarian assholes want to end oppression and improve the global standard of living. Just imagine how much worse things would be for billionaires if the global south couldn’t be exploited.
Oh noooo…. Not the commies…. No ooo don’t … stop…..
They tricked me, they were all like “don’t you just really hate capitalism?” And I’m just like
and next thing you know they’re telling me they have better emojis than anyone and how can you possibly resist that? Next thing you know, they’ve convinced me that a dictatorship of the proletariat would be pretty cool 
Hmm, maybe my app keeps cookies and it’s a ‘you’ve reached you free likit’? Thanks though!
This is two conservative wonks pre-gaming an austerity push by proclaiming how bad things are before presenting their false dilemma. Ideally they want to take more benefits away and tax the non-rich even harder.
Good for them, I guess. Petrodollar won’t last forever, and it shows.
I wonder how prices of international goods usually valued in USD would fare if USD could become much cheaper than EUR, etc.
Not saying that the US isn't in fiscal crisis, I'm not at all qualified to say either way, but: Comparing government balance sheets to household finances is a age-old conservative folly designed to encourage the working class to support smaller government in order to reduce taxes on the rich - in other words, encourage the turkeys to vote for Christmas (or in this case maybe Thanksgiving?).
The fact is that government finances and household finances are not at all the same thing, for many reasons I'm not qualified to explain, but a couple of obvious ones:
- Households can't choose to tax the rich to increase income.
- Households can't print money.
- Households can't secure low-interest loans that extend beyond their lifetimes (i.e. issue bonds).
- Households don't typically find spending increases income (i.e. Government workers pay taxes, infrastructure investment drives growth which increases tax revenue, etc etc).
The UK Conservatives used this line of reasoning around 2010 and it's led to 15 years of growth stagnation with no real improvement in the debt situation.
These yahoos are both from the Federal Fiscal Sustainability Foundation, which is a conservative Republican think tank with ties to ALEC. Nothing they say should be taken at face value. They only serve billionaire interests.
First, Congress should pass the bipartisan H.R. 3289 — Fiscal Commission Act, sponsored by Rep. Bill Huizenga (R-MI), Rep. Scott Peters (D-CA), and 41 co-sponsors. Such a commission would force a public reckoning with the facts, the trade-offs, and the hard choices that restoring fiscal health requires.
Second, Congress should call an Article V Convention limited to proposing a fiscal responsibility amendment to the U.S. Constitution. H.Con.Res. 15, sponsored by Rep. Jodey Arrington (R-TX), would do exactly that.
Ah, the classic conservative austerity play: set up a false dilemma where the only alternative to a fuddy collapse is punishing the non-rich until they die.
Remember... He bankrupted a casino!!!!!
By design. He sucked out every penny of profit, stiffed all his workers, filed for bankruptcy, and stuck all his creditors with the bills. Then he did it six more times.
That wasn't incompetence, it was a successful Business Plan, taking advantage of legal loopholes. It worked once, why not rinse and repeat? It's the American way.
The real question is, does he think he can run a legit business or is his only skill in stealing candy from the pockets of kids as they jump into life rafts of the ship he caused to sink?
He thinks that exploiting the bankruptcy system IS running a legit business, and worse, he thinks he's a genius for doing it.
I get that. But it is amazing when you see interviews of him back in the 90s and he very obviously couldn't run a business to save his life. It was always about scams and when called on it his brain would break.
Right, while his casino bankruptcies were an actual business model, that was in the business he was actually best at - real estate development.
Whatever money he made on his bankruptcy scam, he lost on all those other stupid businesses, which were nothing more than stupid rich guy get-rich-quick schemes. Regular people get caught up in Herbalife or Mary Kay, but for a dolt like Trump, he has to blow big entry money on dumb businesses like Vodka, or Steaks, or a University, and lose his shirt.
Exactly.
And when you start looking into his real estate development, the majority of them fall into two camps. Either he sold his name for the property and had absolutely no involvement in them because in the 80's and 90's Trump means "classy" OR he was the financial backer while others actually did the development and management of the properties. The vast majority of his failed properties were the ones he actually kept some sort of control over and since he doesn't pay his workers and wants to operate like a slum lord, all of those properties tended to fail.
If anything all he really did successfully was show how if you start out with a lot of money and have mildly competent people around you then you can make money.
"a $438.8 billion increase in federal employee and veteran benefits payable (now $15.47 trillion)."
I thought DOGE was supposed to save the U.S. all that?
The Government Accountability office can't hold the government accountable
The jokes write themselves
I don’t quite agree that the goal should be no debt.
Just like getting a loan to buy a house today pays out better over time, or getting an education loan works out better for everyone later, a nation going into debt makes sense.
It pays out better in the long run. In fact debt is one of the best exports we have. We take other peoples money to build infrastructure that accelerates growth, they get decent interest payouts.
I think there does need to be some reigning in of spending.
We shouldn’t operate on an unbalanced budget as a normal course.
Keep in mind it’s mostly republicans blowing up the debt- tax breaks for people who don’t need tax breaks. Wars against people who weren’t a threat. Bailouts to company’s that then use the cash for a stock buy back… funding Israel…. There’s a shit load of problematic spending but it’s always health care and education and social safety nets first.
Sorry, the best I can do is gut healthcare, take the tiny amount of grant money that LGBTQIA organizations get, and give all of that money to the billionaire class. Oh, and invading another country, of course.
Even without dollar hegemony, the USA is the issuer of dollars and could choose to print all of the money necessary to fully pay off their debt. They’re only interested in printing money to fund genocide, though.
This article might have had a point if governments were financed at all like companies. But thank goodness they aren't.
Something needs to be done about the out-of-control spending in the US, but I certainly won't be trusting any Republican-led initiatives to have those answers.
This is some kind of weird propaganda. Too many words like "staggering", and the punchline is a few paragraphs down. He calls for an article V convention and a "fiscal responsibility" amendment. He says that there are relatively few assets on the govt balance sheet but doesn't explain how and whether future tax receipts are booked on it. I'm no accountant but booking prospective tax collection (not on income that has already been received, but on nebulous unrealized future earnings) as assets sounds pretty dubious. On the other hand, they say death and taxes are the only true certainties in existence. So it's not like the taxes won't happen. "Full faith and credit of the United States" basically promises that.
INSOLVENT? Have we tried REDUCING Taxes on the people who could LITERALLY PAY OFF ALL OUR DEBTS over the Course of a Decade?
What a crap headline. Of course neither the US government nor or the fed nor the treasury is insolvent. The national debt is a large number, has been for a long time, and can be an even bigger number forever. Has nothing to do with insolvency. The fed will always be able to conjure money out of thin air so there can’t even exist a situation in which the government is insolvent. Whether the world economy will forever cherish the dollars they print as a reserve currency is a different question (no it won’t ), and something that deserves scrutiny and public attention. But stupid fearmongering articles like this don’t add anything of value to that discussion.
This is kind of stupid. We're solvent. There are bases all over the world. Lots of resources to rape. Basically, this only means that BRIC countries make their own currency, people stop buying worthless US shit bonds, and the world economy slowly suffers as the US sucks the life out of everything to give Israel money for the death cult.
Eventually, a new currency arises, the world moves on, and the US becomes a huge isolationist North Korea with the Handmaid's Tale going on.
"we should pass legislation to limit all new federal spending, unless offset we should have a balanced budget."
Cool on paper but it'll be, cut everything humans use and the entire budget will go to Lockheed and palantir. Everyone dies.
we need to collect taxes and if cuts need to be made it should start with the military and not go to other things till its disbanded. social safety nets should get cut last.
Not missed it. Not reported on because of fear of reprisals and majority of the media is right winged so it doesn't suit their narrative. The media in the US is completely controlled now. Freedom of the press is now a feverdream.
https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/policy/articles/treasury-just-declared-u-insolvent-151425143.html (for those who want to read through paywall)
Current public debt is $31.27T. At 4% average interest that is $1.25T/year in interest. Recent 0.4% rise in interest rates is an extra $125B in interest. Over $6k/year in interest per American 18-64. Was a $2.5T increase in debt and obligations for FY25. Another huge number is $15T in future benefits for Federal workers. $75k/working age adult.
The '26 budget deficit will be much higher
I can't wait until that fat piece of shit's picture is next to an obituary. And I can only hope it's after a painful death. The suffering created by that mass of evil is incalculable. I don't think it's possible to hate anyone more than I hate him. I wish that fucking bullet didn't miss.
Yes printing money is bad but it is exporting inflation to most of the world because they use the dollar.
The problem with this is that Trump has rapidly accelerated the decline of the dollar as the world's reserve currency. The US has been over printing dollars for decades now because there was always somebody who wanted them for global commerce. As that begins to turn, the returning dollars will exacerbate inflation which will make the dollar even less attractive. It's a feedback loop that the US is currently in a terrible position to try and manage.
The world really doesn't need much that the US has to offer, outside of agriculture. The world economy is hooked on US markets because we are such a financial jughaurnaut, but that won't last forever. People are waking up to the fact that our biggest contribution to the world economy is consumption.
This is a 5% increase on normal balance budget items and as 15% increase on social off book stuff. Then includ me inflation. That a lot of fithly rich fucks skimming an unsustainable amount off future resources.
There is absolutely no excuse for a country as wealthy as America with its global reach to not to be adequately funded.
The cutting never nuders. Sporting our long sleeves. Pressing the blade ever deeper
We are nation of self harm, sliding ever deeper, a chronic crisis we refuse to address with the seriousness it requires.
Opinion piece full of pseudo-accounting whose proposed solution is far-right austerity:
First, Congress should pass the bipartisan H.R. 3289 — Fiscal Commission Act, sponsored by Rep. Bill Huizenga (R-MI), Rep. Scott Peters (D-CA), and 41 co-sponsors. Such a commission would force a public reckoning with the facts, the trade-offs, and the hard choices that restoring fiscal health requires.
Second, Congress should call an Article V Convention limited to proposing a fiscal responsibility amendment to the U.S. Constitution. H.Con.Res. 15, sponsored by Rep. Jodey Arrington (R-TX), would do exactly that.
This opinion is calling for writing a Texas Republican's definition of "fiscal responsibility" – a man who cited Thessalonians 3:10 for cutting SNAP benefits – into the US Constitution.
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