Ugh, that is the stupidest, irritating thing. I felt disgust through the screen.

There are lots of parties where I don't speak with my partner at all, but we've been together for nearly 15 years. That's not how it works in your first... I dunno, three years?

Was she dating my ex-husband? He would do this to me when we went rock climbing. To the point where the people there didn’t recognize me at all even though he worked there.

He had done it before with another woman, but she didn’t die. In the recent case, the dead woman’s family supported him. Even though he took their survival supplies. Very odd situation.

"I thought he was only seeing other men!"

Yeah, this is just zoomers not realizing what they've signed up for.

You don't expect your BF to hook up with someone new mid-mountain.

Uhhhh

"seeing other women" means "not exclusive"

but "not exclusive" does not always mean "seeing other women"

He could be, just as one example of many, very unsuccessful at trying to see other women despite having an existing "nonexclusivity" agreement with her.

yes, but people are emotional and they don't abide by their own terms

every casual relationship i ever had was never actually casual. it was just full on monogamy with a 'get out of jail if someone better comes along' card built in.

I went with my ex to a local waterfall once. It was pretty dry, so I wanted to explore the top of the falls a bit since it's normally not accessible. It's very flat up there, and I kept back from the edge since I don't like heights anyway, but she got mad at me for being up there since she didn't feel comfortable coming out with me.

So a couple minutes later, I'm done poking about, and I turn around and she's nowhere to be seen. Now I'm worried she went over the side and something happened to her. I started looking over the edge of the hill leading up to the falls and trying to see if she's down there, but there was enough water to still be spraying the rocks. My foot slides out on a wet patch, and now I'm falling down the rock face!

I crashed off at least 3 ledges on my way down, and was flipping over and trying to grab onto things to catch myself, but there was nothing but rock and moss, but I finally come to a stop. I have no clue how I didn't die or break anything. It was one of the scariest moments of my life. After I checked on my own life, I saw she wasn't there, so I made my way to the car. She was there just being annoyed.

She seemed to think I deserved it for not listening to her for saying it was dangerous, while it was not the activity I was doing that led to me falling, but that I thought I needed to be looking for her after she disappeared without saying she was going to the car. I don't think she must have realized it was not just one rock I fell off of, but probably at least 10+ feet of rock, but needless to say I wasn't very appreciative of her lack of concern. I was just grateful to be alive at that point. I was sore for a few days and had some bruises that lasted a couple months. Was I a jerk? I don't feel so, but I don't believe remote places in the outdoors are the place to put arguments ahead of everyone's safety either way. If I would have gotten hurt badly, who knows how long she would have sat there before looking for me.

I mean what else are you gonna do? Have an escalating fight while you are in an emotionally unstable state? Walking away to calm down is just the right thing to do often, that doesnt change just because you are on a hike.

The cases in the article sound like there is more to them though.

Got back into the dating world recently and was pretty surprised to learn that respectfully communicating your feelings about things afterwards is apparently rare. People need to grow up.

The amount and stuntedness of emotionally stunted immature men is only going up with social media…everything

Or to call it off before you start hiking. Or even to stick together not happy and not liking each other on your way back

For context, angel's landing is one of probably the top 5 most famous hikes in the country. It's so popular that they have timed entry, and you have to book a time well in advance. It would be very, very, very hard to get lost, you can see the spot you started from pretty much the whole way, you are part of a steady stream of people, and there's cell service. There is no "alone" on that hike.

People have died on that hike, but if you exclude suicide and people who were intentionally going off trail to get pictures closer to cliff edges, it's very unlikely. You are probably safer getting dumped there than at a restaurant in a part of town you aren't familiar with.

I would not put that anywhere near the same category as guy who left his girlfriend on a mountaineering expedition.

Don't expect good things from shitty people.

Women need to learn how to identify womanizers if they don't want to be womanized. Most of them don't care though so it keeps happening.

but I'd bet

So no proof then. Guesses don't count.

A bear would totally run away and abandon you on a hiking trail. No difference there.

Speaking from experience.

TBF bears are pretty great. Bears probably win over women, too.

I would choose a teddy bear over any human in the woods.