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[–] 89 points 7 months ago (7 children)

When will Walmart Hitler just fucking die?

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  • [+] 29 points 7 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 234 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    If not dictator why dictator shaped

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  • [–] 68 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    If not a dictatorship why PDF file shaped

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I prefer my autocrats in .txt

    but seriously why are we censoring "pedophile" here?

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I self censored for no reason really.

    I think I’ve written the word pedophile too much lately and wanted to mix things up a bit.

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  • [+] 151 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 47 points 7 months ago (19 children)

    So I listened to it and heard nothing about death penalties for reporters. Am I missing something?

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  • [–] 142 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (15 children)

    Quoting Trump's post, the nugget of truth is from:

    The story was knowingly FAKE and, in a certain way, you can say that those Media Outlets that generated it should be brought up on Charges for TREASON for the dissemination of false information!

    Which they turned into "Demands Death Penalty" because DailyBeast is a tabloid.

    TBH I'm sick of DailyBeast and Rawstory showing up in my Lemmy feed. I'd argue they violate this community's "credible sources" rule.

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  • [–] 56 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    Yeah no, the president saying people should be charged with something thats punishment is death or life in prison is exactly that.. saying those journalists should be put to death or life in prison for what they have written.

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    It’s tough, because I don’t want to give him or the American justice system the benefit of the doubt, but I really hate the misrepresentation of this in the media. Charging someone with treason doesn’t mean they’ll be imprisoned or executed, it means they’ll be put on trial. If this story had addressed the potential for the president to bias the country against these reporters by calling personally for them to be charged with treason, I would be a lot less annoyed by the headline, but it’s inaccurate and they didn’t put any actual investigation into this piece.

    It might be splitting hairs, but I really do wish for exhaustive Nuremberg style trials when I call this regime criminal, treasonous, and genocidal. I wouldn’t mourn if a few of them didn’t make it to trial, but I don’t want them to be able to take their secrets to the grave en masse.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I don’t think you’re splitting hair; you’re being consistent in your values, and journalistic integrity matters more to you than having your biais confirmed.

    It doesn’t matter whether the target of this article is the best person in the world or the worst person in the world, their words are not being reported accurately.

    I loathe everything Donald Trump stands for, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to misrepresent what he says like that for engagement. There are more than enough appalling things the man does and says on a daily basis to not go that low.

    Like someone above wrote, I don’t think daily beast articles have their place here.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    No, they are just blind to context. It's Trump. He is threatening a treason charge precisely because it carries a potential death penalty. He knows that, that's why he's making the threat, and he is vindictive enough to abuse the legal system to make an example of some poor scribbler.

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    well that's true but also the penalty for treason is the death penalty

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  • [–] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    Or imprisonment.

    Point is, that's not what the quote directly said. And that's what distinguishes journalism, and tabloids like DailyBeast (or talking heads/"analysis" like Fox News). Hence, every actual news outlet on this topic went with a factual headline, and quoted Trump directly instead of making a jump.

    This distinction is very important to me. Ragebait like DailyBeast is why Trump is in power and the world sucks now, because it works.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I get your point, but the president saying people should get life in prison if not killed for their 1st amendment right which he swore and oath to uphold would be an absolute reason for an immediate impeachment to most.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    Ragebait like DailyBeast is why Trump is in power

    No, that was bigotry, racism, billionaire-controlled media, voter suppression and foreign interference. The Daily Beast's influence is lost in the noise compared to those factors.

    And how likely do you really think it is that Trump would direct the captive, corrupt DoJ to exercise leniency? It's like someone is waving a gun in someone else's face and you're saying "well, ackshually, we don't really know if he intends to use it to intimidate or shoot that guy." And the gunman is a known sadist who places no value on human life.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    I'm sorry but I've seen plenty of people lose their jobs and get a visit from SS because they mentioned Trump's actions were treasonous. Which someone then interpreted as death threats. One side doesn't get to point fingers and then play coy when they do it themselves.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    TBH I’m sick of DailyBeast and Rawstory showing up in my Lemmy feed.

    Try this: don't click the link.

    And there's a chain of reasoning that makes the headline more than bullshit: Trump is demanding journalists be put on trial for treason, which has a maximum penalty of death. Trump is a long-time advocate of brutal and excessive punishment for anyone not on his good side. The leadership at DoJ are all Trump syophants who take their direction from him. Ergo, any journalist who pisses off Trump is likely to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, if not beyond.

    Short version: Trump was threatening journalists with the death penalty.

    Additional research: the Central Park Five, where Trump demanded their execution even after they were conclusively exonerated.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if Trump shouted "I'm going to execute you!" at the top of his lungs while throwing a baby out the window, on film, in front of a million people; if the headline makes inferred jumps and sensationalizes the event, it is not a news article. Its opinion/talk or whatever label you want to call it.

    And that is exactly why we're here. Trump is a troll that thrives on tabloid journalism; everything that's even a little exaggerated is just feeding him. It's why he's there. And I am very sensitive to the idea that "it's really news because its true with these conditions and aligns with my beliefs" because thats the core operating mode of MAGA.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Is there a transcript? I’m not exactly sure which unhinged rant I’m looking for.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago*

    The source is a Truth Social post:

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116235861005528220

    click to expand full quote:

    Iran has long been known as a Master of Media Manipulation and Public Relations. They are Militarily ineffective and weak, but are really good at “feeding” the very appreciative Fake News Media false information. Now, A.I. has become another Disinformation weapon that Iran uses, quite well, considering they are being annihilated by the day. They showed phony “Kamikaze Boats,” shooting at various Ships at Sea, which looks wonderful, powerful, and vicious, but these Boats don’t exist — It’s all false information to show how “tough” their already defeated Military is! The five U.S. Refueling Planes that were supposedly struck down and badly damaged, according to The Wall Street Journal’s false reporting, and others, are all in service, with the exception of one, which will soon be flying the skies. Buildings and Ships that are shown to be on fire are not — It’s FAKE NEWS, generated by A.I. For instance, Iran, working in close coordination with the Fake News Media, shows our great USS Abraham Lincoln Aircraft Carrier, one of the largest and most prestigious Ships in the World, burning uncontrollably in the Ocean. Not only was it not burning, it was not even shot at — Iran knows better than to do that! The story was knowingly FAKE and, in a certain way, you can say that those Media Outlets that generated it should be brought up on Charges for TREASON for the dissemination of false information! The fact is, Iran is being decimated, and the only battles they “win” are those that they create through AI, and are distributed by Corrupt Media Outlets. The Radical Leftwing Press knows this full well, but continues to go forward with false stories and LIES. That’s why their Approval Rating is so low, and I can win a Presidential Election, IN A LANDSLIDE, getting only 5% positive Press — They have no credibility! I am so thrilled to see Brendan Carr, the Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), looking at the licenses of some of these Corrupt and Highly Unpatriotic “News” Organizations. They get Billions of Dollars of FREE American Airwaves, and use it to perpetuate LIES, both in News and almost all of their Shows, including the Late Night Morons, who get gigantic Salaries for horrible Ratings, and never get, as I used to say in The Apprentice, “FIRED.” Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP

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  • [–] 43 points 7 months ago

    As if starving and murdering detainees in ICE concentration camps weren't enough.

    What a motherfucker.

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  • [–] 70 points 7 months ago* (7 children)

    Oh right. The "liberal news media." The one that's owned by six billionaires. The one that sucks up to Trump constantly. The one that's constantly doing. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ in response to Trump's demented bullshit. THAT liberal news media.

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  • [–] 37 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Sorry about the loss of your arm. :(

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Sorry to burst your bubble but Liberals ARE right wingers.

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  • [–] 65 points 7 months ago (10 children)
  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Someone just needs to shop Trump's face on this pic

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  • [–] 40 points 7 months ago (8 children)
  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Ask an ye shall receive.

    Can I have a Pony?

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Idk why, but the pony escorting trump?

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Can you give him a MAGA diaper (like the hat)

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (8 children)
  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Midterms ... Impeachment ... then Prison or LEGAL execution upon conviction. Can't say Im spouting threats or violence for that.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You gotta realize none of that will ever happen because the Democrats lack the political will to even make a serious attempt.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    And that right there is part of the problem. They want to do nothing, so if we tell them that we expect them to do nothing, they will.

    But if we hand them the House AND the Senate in the Midterms, there will be a whole crop of new Dems on Congress who didn't work hard to get there to do nothing. They will wamt to shake things up, and we have to let Congress know that we do NOT expect business as usual. These are unprecedented times, and they require unprecedented solutions. That starts with replacing the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries, right out of the gate. The Dems will NEVER beat MAGA decisively with those two losers at the helm.

    If we hand them the votes, and the investigative committees, then they better use them, or they will be replaced in the next election, and face the same righteous wrath of the citizens that MAGA will face.

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  • [+] -14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Can we stop calling for anyone to die?

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Not as long as theyre calling for us to die, no

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Uses the word treason quite lightly for someone committing it on a daily basis

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    Caesar Augustus for president 2028! Kill the swamp

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    The guy who launched a violent Insurrection, and stole hundreds of classified documents to sell, might want to keep his mouth shut about Treason. Glass houses and throwing rocks and whatnot.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    Iran does have sea drones, and they have made giant holes in tankers at sea level with them. Iraq claimed that 2 of them were used to turn 2 real tankers into 2 giant fireballs in their harbour. I have seen AI of 20 simultaneous missiles hitting downtown Tel Aviv, but a bigger problem than AI on Israel is that Israel is criminalizing the sharing of strike information, with selective permission after for whining about civilian areas. There is a lot of damage every night in Israel.

    Trump said the rallies in big square of Tehran are also fake, and even the hits Israel/Israelis admit to are fake. Same with GCC hits that GCC acknowledges.

    If using AI for fake news, there is a Netanyahu video out early today, where his wedding ring fades in and out. He should then give death penalty to IDF/Netanyahu (he could be hiding instead of dead) for fake news.

    It is next level, Hitler's bunker, and losing, to be resorting to this level of desperation.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    Pretty soon trump will have to release the epstein sex tapes to distract from the war!

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Shitty article from a shitty source. In fairness, about a shitty President.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Of course Bill Clinton was one of the best ones, but who is counting THE LAST OK DECADE (90's). Everything was horrible after that. Everyone who was an adult in 2000 knows everything turned to poop.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    He'd have to go have a reasonable, fair debate with somebody to surprise me at this point.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    Trump went on, “The story was knowingly FAKE and, in a certain way, you can say that those Media Outlets that generated it should be brought up on Charges for TREASON for the dissemination of false information!”

    I'll take "what was J6?" for a thousand

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    God can’t exist. He just can’t. Because why would he let this pestilence live on, especially with three lifetimes’ worth of KFC and McCrap in his arteries?

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    Maybe God just loves us like a gardener loves plants. Right now looking at the garden and being like "oh no... This is a real mess. It would probably be easier to start over... But I've spent so much time on them, let's give them a chance to pull through if I leave it for a while"

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    things going well then I guess.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Trump is the kind of guy that 6th graders on the bus would have to take aside and say "not cool, man" except he's 80 years old.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Whoa neat, he wants the death penalty for himself?? Let's convict then.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    doing mean unhinged EPSTEIN-WAR RANT.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Death to pedophiles!

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    Clickbait headline. Trump's rant demanded that those reporters be tried for treason, is that not a bad enough thing to do, to make a compelling, and truthful, headline?

    But no, because one of the possible outcomes of being convicted of treason is the death penalty, the headline says "demands death penalty". Gee, I wonder why the headline doesn't say "demands 5 years in prison", another possible outcome of a treason conviction? Anyone want to take a guess?

    Sensationalism is so pathetic.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Another sad day, as the crazy old man has yet again eluded the endless sleep.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Most DPRK stories are written as biased DPRK fan fiction from outside enemies. He may just have been fired from his post.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Sure, "It was not clear how the NIS received the information and it is not possible to independently verify such reports from within secretive North Korea."
    And one day people are executed for having the same haircut as the president, the next day people are executed for not having the same haircut.
    You're posting propaganda BS.

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