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[–] 71 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm thoroughly convinced UI designers are under the impression we cut ourselves on sharp corners.

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    [+] 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I really hate the trend of people just randomly changing UI in apps for no apparent reason. It's just a pervasive problem at this point.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm far from an expert, but Ui design as a job seems to have a huge flaw were if you eventually make the "perfect Ui" you're suddenly out of a job.

    So you're straight up punished for doing your job well and the only way to maintain a career is to just re-invent the wheel every so often and chase the trends of others doing the same thing so your Ui designs don't look "outdated"

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Definitely, after the redesign i now have to read all the labels because just about everything has changed its layout

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Exactly, and I get why companies do it. They generally prioritize bringing new customers on, so they tweak things because they think it's more trendy or appealing. But for an open source project to do these things just makes no sense at all. I get the impression people running things at Mozilla are completely disconnected from what Firefox users actually want at this point.

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago

    There is way too much white-space in this design. I'm tired of getting higher resolution displays only to lose that resolution to applications that get chunkier.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    This seems so out of place on every OS and DE I can think of.

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  • [–] 64 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    No thank you. I like Firefox the way it is. I hate big changes for the sake of designers keeping their jobs changing my tools and workflow and making things ugly.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Ultimately I just need Firefox to always support about:config, manifest v2 compatibility, and userChrome.css and userContent.css.

    That said, usually changes like these break my extremely minimal redesign and configs I have on my desktop. So... boo, Mozilla, boo....

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Ultimately I just need Firefox to always support about:config, manifest v2 compatibility, and userChrome.css and userContent.css.

    Isn't userchrome.cc already deprecated for quite some time?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    It'd be news to me, I've used the same userChrome.css and userContent.css for years now and I keep my Gentoo Linux desktop up to date with weekly updates, so the Firefox I'm using is confirmed to be the latest version.

    Additionally, a quick search on ddg reveals no recent mentions nor plans for deprecation of the feature as far as I can tell.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    I prefer standardized OS wide appearances that are respected by all apps. The only skinning I want are Dark Modes or Mini Player modes (for media players).

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Argh, yet another userchrome.css overhaul to do.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Old Firefox looked perfectly fine. I don't know why they keep wasting so many resources on changing something that already worked.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Because aesthethics also change through the years. You have to make your product appealing to today's standards.

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago

    literally just fix bugs

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    thanks i hate it if youre gonna keep going chromium then take from vivaldi.

    but really you should take from seamonkey and palemoon for ui ideas mozilla

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I hope it's just a joke

    Yes, the classic Mozilla April Fools joke, released a full month early.

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    Designers need a reason to exist. So instead of doing user surveys and making new, modular themes (so you can choose the redesign), they scrap everything every few years so they have something to do. Because apparently modularity is hard.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    oh please no. i fucking hate having to edit my userchrome on every updates..

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Wow look at those default screenshots. They look horrible, what a mess.

    A useless sidebar, a lot of mess in the homepage, stupid shit being pushed to you.

    Everytime i install Firefox i need to do a huge config setup to remove all that useless crap

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Agreed, never asked for the side bar, never gonna use it.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Its already in Firefox. Its disabled by default. They're just showing what it looks like.

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  • Seems like Mozilla is still too rich if they can afford complete redesign of their product every 3 years. Let's hope the lepton ui fix will continue to work, I might have to up my donation there..

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Firefox hasn't looked good since they changed "Photon" for "Proton" with those awful floating tabs. Thank god for Zen Browser.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The mobile client and fork I use both have that design language now. It's a little cutesy for me and I dislike having to click twice to get the full menu but otherwise no complaints.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Looks identical to Opera browser theme.

    Actually, I have round edges. The reason I still prefer Firefox is its squarish design looks more professional and authentic. Anyway Mozilla will never add any features that users wish to have but actively changes unnecessary things. Anyway good luck Mozilla!

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (25 children)

    I really like it, I feel like it fixes some of the issues with groups and tabs looking a bit weird currently. Lol, I always like Firefox redesigns and really cannot understand how people go apeshit when that happens. I swear some people would use NetScape GUI if they could.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    But the space isn't wasted. Its used for greater legibility and generally improved accessibility and UX. But also, I dont think you're right 🤔

    People have different tastes of course. Mine are dictated by a reading disability amongst other things.

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  • [+] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Hey. You've cut a whole extra bar off the top of the Netscape theme! 😆 Still it is interesting to me that they're pretty equivalent. Personal I'd find the tabs particularly annoying, but like I said, people have different tastes.

    I wonder why compact mode was deprecated. Are there still many devices out there with a significantly less than 1080 screens? Steam Decks I guess?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    But the space isn't wasted. Its used for greater legibility and generally improved accessibility and UX.

    Just looking at the photo you provided, OC's words fall flat.

    I know people are expected to understand the one and only design language currently in use (with its bajillion little dialects).

    Even this is the same inherent lanuguage. "Home", "Back", "Forward", "Address bar", etc.

    It's the same exact stuff, just displayed differently.

    But the space isn't wasted. Its used for greater legibility and generally improved accessibility and UX.

    But whatexactly makes the Netscape UI "inaccessible"?

    The fact that it has large buttons? The fact that the buttons are realistic drawings, and not abstract lines? The fact that the buttons are labeled?

    If anything, the older UI is more accessible.

    Someone who doesn't know how to use either UI is bound to prefer the second one. Because it is more accessible.

    There are two types of accessibility I can think of when dealing with UI: accessibility to stuff like screen readers, and accesibility to new (as in never used a computer before) users.

    The Netscape UI is better in both regards: it doesn't have dropdowns (which are quite comolex to model for screen readers, and are usually full of jank). The old UI also has helpful captions for the actions. You know, the things the screen reader reads to the user. In the new Firefox, they may become "Left Arrow" if accessibility is an afterthought and generic alt text is used. Modern UI designers heading the project surely won't bother with screen readers too much anyway.

    So let me ask again: Which of these is more accessible, and to whom?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    do you actually use it? lol is that even possible without everything breaking?

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    While I agree overall it looks nice, I hate gaps and rounded corners. I’m sick of wasted space. And I’m sick of rounded corners.

    I swear some people would use NetScape GUI if they could.

    Now that would actually be nice!!

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    i think the space is the same but its just camouflaged to look like it's wasted, maybe we should count the pixels tho

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I hope vertical tabs will get hidden in fullscreen mode this annoys me a lot now

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    Hmmm, I think it needs more rounded corners and padding. - UI designer in 2026

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Wtf are the symbols on the left?

    • Display?
    • Sparkles? (bookmark groups?)
    • Star (bookmarks in the current ui)
    • Time

    FFS I miss drop down menus with text options instead of hieroglyphics.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    It looks fine, I guess...? Then again, I thought the old design was fine as it was...

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Please don't AI...

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Golly I can't wait.

    But could they get rid of the spy shit first?

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    I like this a lot! However I hope they keep the userChrome function because as nice as it is I’m going to keep my LibAdwaita skin anyways.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    For the love of Odin can I please get a title and menu bar.

    When you have tabs across the screen where would you click and hold to drag the window?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I didn't know people actually liked title bars eating up a window's vertical space.
    Firefox specifically adds a bit of padding either side of said tabs in non-maximised windows.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    No, I'll install a better designed browser instead.

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    [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    As much as I loved firefox in the early days - i find it so slow compared to just about all the chrominum based offshoots ive tried. And UX wise - its just confusing to see things change constantly.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I've never really understood the whole obsession with browser speed....

    I mean so what if one browser loads a page in 10 seconds and this one takes 11 seconds. There's no real difference.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yeah I wished there was an option to not use their new look... I've just had the up dated look on android and honestly don't like it. I'll get tmuse to it but you know it's just a question of time.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I'm hoping this rewrite simplifies the ui code rather. The existing userstyle system is a headache to modify with the documentation being so scattered.

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