What is going on here with the German social democrats (SPD) voting in favor of chat control and the conservative "christian" party (CDU) against it?
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i emailed all my meps in regard to this a few months ago, and charlie weimers was the only one who responded. his claim was that "SD has been against chat control from the start".
so that was a fucking lie.
As someone pointed out at the cross-post: The image is dated 02 march 2025.
I am surprised that in Germany CDU and AfD are against while SPD is for chat control. Seems like SPD wants to shoot themselves in a foot for some reason.
According to this other post by Tuta:
Final negotiations on Chat Control 2.0 just started between the European Commission, the European Parliament, and the Council of the EU. What is good: ✅️ Encryption will not be broken What is bad: ❌️ Commission & Council want #IDchecks
Wow, I am sooooooo shocked that all the Swedes voted for it. The nazis, the centre, and the social democrats all holding hands and singing 'we shall overcome.'

Axel Voss its you isnt it
I will never vote for SPD again. Bunch of rotten traitors.
On toward Die Linke and Grünen!
Die Partei?
Unironically they'd be a better choice than AfD or Union, but that's a bar so low you could hardly walk under it.
Alternatively also VOLT, perhaps? It doesn't hurt to fight for a more unified EU.
SPD bein traitorous
A trait as old as time
From Rosa Luxembourg to today
That is interesting. Why in Germany and Austria far-right (AfD, CDU, OVP) are against but center-left / liberals (SPD, SPO) are in favor, while for example in France and Czech Republic it is opposite (RN in favor, EELV against; ANO in favor, KDU-CSL against)?
because civil liberties don't fit neatly into a left-right spectrum, despite being a lot more important than the economic policies that the left-right spectrum aims to describe, which is why I think the left-right spectrum is mostly useless
Yess! Indeed interesting, maybe member of german and Austria far right parties use chat apps within scope and fear to get caught doing whatever they do 🤔
Why in Germany and Austria far-right (AfD, CDU, OVP) are against
I guess a combination of contrarianism and the control not going far enough.
Probably more likely that they are against it as long as they can be targeted. They want to wait until they are in charge politically and can control it, and then they'll be behind it so they can target their perceived enemies.
Pretty much how it went here in the USA. All the shit the right wing used to scream and rail against is everything they're instituting now that they feel relatively sure they won't have to let go of the power in the future. Once they get their tentacles in, they'll turn on a dime and support it.
Man that’s a lot of political parties, have you guys ever tried just having one like us in the US? please help us
Glad to see so many against, horrible to see that many for, let's not let this get passed.
The date says 2nd march 2025.
Yes, and it also says LIBE, which is the committee, not plenary, where this was recently voted on. It's clearly not enough members for a plenary vote, this post is misinformation as titled.
Yes that was my confusion, that's also why not all countries are present in this vote. The original post is trying to raise attention because the vote for the Chat Control 2.0 is starting these days.
No surprise seeing the right voting for that shit. Tells me all I need to know about the actual motives….
The Italian left voted in favour (what a huge disappointment). FI voted against and it's a right wing party.
Honestly who surprised me more is Cecilia Strada voting in favour.
All of those Spanish votes against it are from the right
López Aguilar es un cabrón. Tener que tirar del PP y de Comuns para tirar la propuesta....
Translation from Spanish: López Aguilar is a S.O.B. Having to resort to PP and Comuns to take down the proposal...
SPD ab jetzt noch unwählbarer. Hätte nicht gedacht, dass das geht.
No Denmark anywhere?
I thought there were many Danish politician for.
There's a party called "Pirates"...
On a serious note, I'm not familiar with those that were absent, but I always advise to check if it's common for them to vanish when touchy subjects are discussed.
Vertical stripes for, horizontal stripes against. Interesting.
The In Favour section should be empty, it’s disgusting that it’s got anyone at all in it.

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