They are currently voting on amends to the regulation. The "Chat Control" proposal would legalise scanning of all private digital communications, including encrypted messages and photos. This threatens fundamental privacy rights and digital security for all EU citizens.

https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

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[–] 37 points 8 months ago (16 children)

What is going on here with the German social democrats (SPD) voting in favor of chat control and the conservative "christian" party (CDU) against it?

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago

    Exactly the same with the Portuguese parties. The conservative PSD voted against (like "Pirates"), and the socialist PS voted in favour (like the polish "PiS"). I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago*

    The SPD is social democrat in name only, in reality, since the first Schröder government, they have been a cheap CDU copy.

    And when it comes to supporting authoritarian bullshit, they do have a long history. In the early days of Weimar Republic, the Ebert government did collaborate with far-right paramilitary groups in order to quell unrest. (Using machine guns on striking workers and murdering leaders of opposing political movements)

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    The SPD has been for it for atleast 20 decades. Cdu/csu...idk they are weird

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    If the CDU/CSU does something unexpected, it's always a good idea to assume someone is paying them for it.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Or paid not enough for them to vote for it?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Highly unlikely, because besides being corrupt to the core, the CDU are a bunch of authoritarian bastards who will happily vote for any dystopian police state bullshit even without being paid for it.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Which makes it strange, doesn't it? If they are so dystopian, who paid them to not to vote for that? Pretty much all the shady financial supporters should be for chat control and only dystopian parties didn't vote for it while allegedly progressive party did.

    That is so weird to see ngl.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    while allegedly progressive party did.

    I don't even know anymore what progressive is supposed to mean, it's thrown around just like every other political bullshit word.

    Also, the SPD has been a copy of the CDU in red for decades. From them, I expected that vote. The unexpected really is the CDU.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    It seems to be the case in most other countries. I don't get it either. I can only think that those barely left from center parties are all falling for the "gotta protect the kids against all evil by removing all anonymity". But all those right parties... Are they against chat control? Since when? Or is it the wrong kind of chat control for them? Don't get it at all, but well, at least this crap was rejected (until the next time they try again).

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    German Social Democrats are actual vegetables. They don‘t think. They just do what they‘re told. I genuinely forget they exist sometimes. It feels like this country is ruled by conservatives and no one else.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    most socalist governments like mine (Spain's) vote in favour of these kind of stuff. They want more control, not less lol. And believe it or not, most right wing parties that usually are somewhat nationalist, tend to believe their own people deserve privacy or media freedom or whatever, no matter what other countries think

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