Sounds like a draft is being planned for the occupation of Iran, aka Vietnam v.4

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[–] 161 points 8 months ago (3 children)

"Why don't presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?"

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  • [–] 117 points 8 months ago (22 children)

    Barron stands at a staggering 6’9’’ tall, meaning he may be too tall for the Army, particularly for specific roles involving restricted space like armored vehicles, tanks, or aircraft. Generally, max height limits (e.g., 80 inches/6'8" in the US Army) are enforced to ensure safety and fit within equipment.

    At least a better reason that a heel spores diagnosis given by a doctor who rents an office off your father...

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  • [–] 89 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I didn't know they stacked shit that high.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    It takes a special turd to not draw interest from basketball programs at 6'9" in the US. There's some teams that recruit on height alone and worry about teaching skills later. The fact that he wasn't even sniffed at by a college coach somewhere is pretty telling.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Not really. You need to have athletic grace. I've got a childhood friend that tall and while he had some attempts to get him on the high school team he just obviously lacked the kinesthetic ability to play sports at even a varsity level. None of the colleges he attended even asked.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    Well I heard he had autism, and his mother seems pretty overprotective. So perhaps he is not qualified d/t mental illness. I mean, we don't know if this kid is stimming out when presented with new experiences. He may not be banging his head against a wall but there may be other issues. Plus, his affinity for people like the brothers Tate (rapist advocates and human trafficking criminals) might just disqualify him d/t character and judgement. What do they say? apples fall from the tree.

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  • [–] 71 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Is he actually 6’9” or is he 6’9” the way his father is 6’3”? I wouldn’t be surprised if they just tell everyone he’s 6’9” to get him out of it if it comes down to a draft.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    Just looking at the picture in the article, though, shows that he is either quite tall, or his security detail are dwarves.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    He’s definitely very tall, but could be 6’7” and that would be under the restriction.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    True re: Don the Con but...

    Clerk, logistics, cook, etc.

    There's a tonne of jobs he could do while being tall. While it may be a legitimate reason for not serving, it seems frivolous (especially considering the context).

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Honestly with this I have doubts he's the full 6'9". Unless we have pics of him having to duck to enter rooms or something (a friend of mine is that tall, the standard American door frame is shorter than that). Anything above 6'6" is indistinguishable to most people and just registers as "holy fuck you're tall". And so yeah a "fucking hell you're tall" guy being given an extra inch or two on documents to avoid a draft is just extremely believable to me, especially when his dad is a draft dodge4 planning on starting a war.

    Anyways I have no evidence but that's my little conspiracy theory

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah I have a relative who's similarly tall, and he was a gunner in the airforce. I have no clue how he fit into those planes but he apparently saw combat and everything.

    He had a house built for him with 8 foot door frames and 10+ foot ceilings so that he wouldn't have to duck at home

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Oh I bet he had amazing counter heights. And yeah, once you get to these heights the social model of disability starts making their height look increasingly like a disability with how much custom and specialty stuff they need. But yeah it was really fun when we were young adults watching him drunkenly navigate buildings not made for people his size.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Oh I bet he had amazing counter heights

    Come to think of it, they are a really nice height! Normal counters an average sized person has to bend a little but these you can comfortable eat at while standing. I imagine they'd be a bit too high for me to comfortable cook at being only 5'8"ish but yeah I never thought about that

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  • [–] 56 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    It ain't me, it ain't me.

    I ain't no fortunate son!

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  • [–] 45 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    Sounds like a draft is being planned for the occupation of Iran, aka Vietnam v.4

    I doubt it, or at least, I hope you're wrong. This would go down like a lead balloon if they did it. The war is super unpopular in the US, probably super, suuuper unpopular among military age young men... who are, broadly speaking, either far left, or anti-semitic...... like, a draft is a potential mass unrest inducing event. surely they won't do it

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  • [–] 55 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Trump wants unrest so he can instate martial law and begin his reign of terror in earnest.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It's hard to be a dictator without a support of the army or the people.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Now that he's got the military aligned toward a traditional target, they will remain organized in war mode, and become accustomed to following whatever orders come down.

    They will be a lot more difficult to turn against the MAGA government now. I suspect that's the real reason they invaded now.

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  • [+] -9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Because he hasn't already done so without "an excuse"? Stop victim blaming.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    Who's victim blaming? I'm more than one of his target groups. If you think this is what martial law looks like you're in for a shock though. What we've seen so far is barely worse than average US police brutality. Things can and likely will get a whole lot uglier.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Oh, yeah, they won't do anything stupid, like starting a wildly unpopular war that will spike gas prices during a midterm campaign that is already about high prices. /S

    They already KNOW they'll get clobbered at the Midterms, so announcing a Draft will be the perfect punishment. Vote against MAGA? We'll just kill your children.

    A draft will be a mass resistance event, and they love the chaos. That's exactly the reason they WILL do it.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    @bearboiblake @MuskyMelon not boots on the ground but videogames in cubicles. a drone war. they'd even externalize costs by SELLING the game on Steam or PS. Incels and groypers would love it. Nazi paradise: all the violence, no personal risk.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Once again, drones can level an area or kill fighters, but you cannot secure an area effectively with them. You aren't gonna replace boots on the ground with a couple of quadcopters or even the land drones Ukraine has been using, and despite the Secretary of Defense apparently not knowing that, the people that actually make decisions should. Unless you're talking something like a stand-off violence parade where a protest happens and then 20 minutes later a drone strike happens in that spot, I simply do not see a replacement for having equipment and men on the ground.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Not true. Plenty of young people enlist for many reasons.. Some enlist for patriotism, some for the benefits, some for lack of options/poor employment options. People who don't enlist usually have better options.. or a least more choices. Military enlistment is usually a pragmatic or desperate decision. People who choose not to are not anti-semitic which is a strange accusation. We are citizens of the US, not Israel... they have their own draft. I do not know why that would even be a consideration for a 17-19 year old in the US. They are not exactly readers or followers of current events-- I mean, if they were intellectuals, they would be attending a college. Most of the enlistees come from economically depressed regions that don't offer them a bright future.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I think you misunderstood my comment, we're talking about a draft, not voluntary enlistment. Fuck anyone who does voluntarily enlist though, supporting US imperialism and doing the bidding of the elite epstein-loving pedophilic ruling class is never justified, no matter how deprived or desperate your background, someone has it worse than you and isn't making immoral choices.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    bro, bone spurs is hereditary 😒

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Perfect opportunity to send Eric ..

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Unfortunately, Don Jr. would fail one of the major physical tests... the drug test. He would be considered to be unqualified unless... perhaps.... he agrees to weekly witnessed piss tests.

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    diagnosed President Trump with bone spurs as a favor to his father, Fred Trump, in order to help him avoid the military draft.

    So Barron might be "too tall" to serve his country...? and even if he's not I'm sure we'll find out real quick that bone spurs run in the family.

    It's so insane that it has always been standard practice for wealthy and powerful men to start wars then refuse to send their own children to fight, but it's especially egregious watching the Trump administration carry this shit out. The level of planning leading up to this to create another endless war seems so obvious in hindsight.

    •Hegseth's "anti-woke" military speech

    •Elimination of government loans for education (even for nursing and medical school, so only the wealthy can afford an education, let alone a deferment. If you're not born rich you have 2 options: take out private loans at a huge interest rate or join the army. Sign yourself over to the oligarchs one way or the other.)

    •Up the country's birth rates (gotta gradually replace them as they die by the thousands at war)

    •Openly admitting your goal is to eliminate the entire department of education. Because you don't need an education when your entire path birth to death has already been laid out for you:

    You're born to serve while Trump and his oligarchs sit in their country club and move you around like a piece of plastic on a game board.

    Life is hard and it seems like people are constantly fighting and dying around you from the moment you're born. It's all you know. Everyone around you is sick, destitute, and miserable. There are no jobs. You have no education. You know nothing but struggle and see no future for yourself.

    The army is the only hand reaching out and offering to help pull you up, so you grab it.

    Then you either die thousands of miles away from your home or you come back and spend the rest of your life wounded, without a doubt mentally and pretty often physically.

    If you try to speak out against it or warn others, you're accused of being "woke." There is no hesitation to show you how little your rights, that you were told you were fighting for, mean to the people who sent you to fight.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Honestly the only perk of feudalism is that the princes would have to go to war. Unfortunately it was prone to make them worse leaders by way of trauma, but hey, sometimes they died.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    How much they actually fought depended a lot on the prince/duke.

    Some led their troops into battle, some directed from the rear and had knights to defend them if the battle went poorly enough that the enemy engaged with them directly (with some fighting to the death from there, others surrendering to be ransomed, and some being killed whether or not the fought or surrendered), others fled as soon as they thought the battle wasn't going their way (which often caused their side to lose even if it had a chance).

    And some had a friend or subordinate lead their army while they maybe led a different army or maybe just chilled in the comfort of whatever castle they were in.

    Or they named someone else the governor of a certain area and then left subduing whatever was going on there to them, often just naming the other party the governer if their first candidate sucked (which wasn't rare, since it was mostly nepotism).

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I always figured knights just kind of walked around hacking up the poor people with sharpened sticks to pieces

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Not really. Firstly, knights were heavy cavalry. By the time they're walking in battle shit's gone sideways and there's a decent chance they're injured either by whatever knocked them off their horse, falling off their horse, or the whole process of their horse getting injured or killed and going down. And in that vein, the pointy sticks are about stopping the horse, not the knight. A pike wall (as well as fortifications like ditches) creates areas of denial for knights and danger to their horses. A bunch of poor people with long sticks are how you stop knights.

    Medieval warfare in open fields was largely about archer volleys attempting to wear each other down and to damage pike walls enough that they break formation allowing knights to ride in and rout (basically come in and kill everyone). Pike formations outlasted armored knights with the rise in quality and availability of firearms simply being integrated into their formations. This is how you get the Renaissance era walls of people lining up to shoot each other.

    At least that's what I remember from various learning of it, definitely not an expert.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Life is hard and it seems like people are constantly fighting and dying around you from the moment you’re born. It’s all you know. Everyone around you is sick, destitute, and miserable. There are no jobs. You have no education. You know nothing but struggle and see no future for yourself.

    The army is the only hand reaching out and offering to help pull you up, so you grab it.

    I grew up in a very rural area. This describes the situation there decades ago.

    I don't have exact numbers, but I would say something like 10-15% of my class actually went on to higher education. Probably less, and definitely less than that finished.

    Very, very many went into some branch of the military. When the first war on Iraq started I figured that might be our generation's Vietnam and that many of my graduating class would be fodder for it. Luckily for them, that ended up not being the case.

    In any case, songs like Born in the USA and Fortune Son really land pretty hard...

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I'm willing to bet he's just as deplorable as his old man.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    I've been expecting this for a long time. Trump will definitely attempt a draft, with lots of loopholes for wealthy children.

    I suspect that he'll announce it in early 2027, after the Midterms, and after the Holidays. You don't want this being the main subject of American families as they gather at Christmas. Wait until they're isolated in their homes in the January winter, then spring it on them.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    I actually expect all males under 40 have to sign up for the draft and show up at recruiting centers. If you are overweight the government will take over production of glp-1 and force those over weight on it. They will profile your social media using some kind of palentir program to assess your risk to the government cause and possibly send those most against the government to the front lines under equipped.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Every American male has to register for the draft when they turn 18. You are already registered, and if you aren't, you are in violation of Federal/ MAGA law.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Adding MAGA law here is just really weird.

    Registering for the draft was passed into law in 1917 by Woodrow Wilson. 29 years before Trump was born.

    Calling that "MAGA" law makes no sense practically or historically

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Only if you request federal student aid. Otherwise you can avoid it.. conscientiously object. I had friends who did that in the 1980s. However, as a female, I served. My son served. And we are done. Fuck the US military complex. We are not your slaves to order about. We fought a revolution in this country to reject being impressed into the military.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (6 children)

    Do you know if they keep a log of everyone that is timed out?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Fuxing Heggy trying to deprive a veteran officer and US Senator of his rank and benefits for merely advising US military of the UCMJ is an example of this renegade government.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    No idea, but I'll bet they'll find that a LOT of young men never signed up. They'll be forced to register, and will probably go straight to the head of the line.

    Unless they're from a wealthy family, of course.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    I mean, I had to, to register for college. If my memory serves me right.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    You could have attended college on your dime anywhere... even outside the US without registering. The moment you apply for any federal loan or other financial assist, you are required to register. That is how the wealthy get out of it.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Sss chart

    It’s make me question, what is the consequence of not registering? It looks like you wouldn’t have access to Pell Grants, and not eligible for government jobs, but that seems about it. Are employment background checks verifying previous applications to sss?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I expect it before the holidays, actually right before the midterms if not during the summer. He'll say we can't run elections now because of the threat this poses, then MAGA will start doing terrorist level shit at polling stations (which the FBI will initially lie and say is by Iranian extremists or smth) to reinforce that.

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