Some 8,790 Americans sought citizenship in the UK, either through registration or naturalisation in 2025, according to Home Office data published Thursday.

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[–] 51 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I know people who's parents immigrated to the US from Mexico. Their parents worked under-the-table jobs and hard blue collar jobs so their children could have a better life than them. Those same children are grown up now and applying for Mexican citizenship just in case.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    My mom came from the UK. Even though I was born in the US, it was long enough ago that I also have British Citizenship by default (even though I’ve only ever spent 4 weeks of my life there on vacations). Filed the paperwork and got my British passport last year just in case….

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Isn't the UK also having it's own right wing problems?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Oh, they're 10 or 20 years ahead of the rest of Europe: over a decade ago the local equivalent of MAGA whilst taking over their rightmost main party ended up causing Brexit and in government with an absolute parliamentary majority (and, remember, Britain is not a presidential system).

    In most of Europe the Far-Right is not in power, much less fucking their country up with something as bad as Brexit.

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  • [–] 48 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    Brexit is a deal breaker for me. Any thoughts I've ever had about moving to UK for any reason went out the window when Brexit happened.

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Plus they're only half a step behind on the bigotry, surveillance, and fascism anyway.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    They have always been fascist and they are way ahead in laws restricting rights.

    I think the guy that was pretending to be pro-genocide and watching his friends be arrested for protesting Israel about summed it up for me. Genocide okay, anti-genocide not okay in the UK.

    I think though they are less racist. They have that going for them.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago*

    They're so Racist that during the whole Brexit shitshow racism towards other Europeans became pretty overt at all levels.

    Also having lived in Britain and with friends which unlike me didn't look like the locals, I heard lots of stories from them about being discriminated against in Britain and even have one myself (you could tell I was not a local if I spoke, since my accent wasn't any of the local ones).

    Whilst Britain is good at image management, what's under that carefully cultivated image is quite a lot darker.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Having lived in Britain during the time of the Referendum and seen all of that shitshow first hand, I would say that Brexit is the product of British Politics having been taken over by the local version of MAGA (so, less loud and obnoxious, more posh sleaze).

    This was to the point that they even had a Trump lookalike called Boris Johnson.

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  • [–] 58 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    Like most US folks, I wish I had job flexibility and the money to just up and emigrate. Alas most have no choice but to stay.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    I gave up my career and started over in something entirely different at a paltry salary, but I got out.

    I totally understand your decision, but historically emigration is FILLED with stories of even professionals like doctors and engineers needing to accept very low paid wage work and re-credentialing in exchange for a longer term reset in a better country.

    Again, I absolutely get it - but that's not the same thing as "no choice".

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    You still have to have the money to move, be healthy enough to be accepted by the new country, etc. For many many people there is no choice. None. Often those that need it most.

    Not blaming anyone that has the agency to leave. But it is what it is.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago

    i think doctors and scientists would have an easier intergrating than othe rprofessionals, givien how they arnt making a complete change in thier career, just "relocation", plus the benefits of being one these groups.

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  • [–] 90 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    Seems like trading one shitty situation for another, UK's government is fucked too, isn't it?

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  • [–] 54 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    I mean, you don't just get shot on the street legally, and we don't have ICE (yet), and not everything is a complete scam... But maybe in 20 years we'll be there. Hopefully the UK takes a different route, and I doubt the "infrastructure" is there to go full "legal slavery and for profit prisons" British MAGA to begin with.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    No dude, you have IP cameras rolled out alread, you're primed for the AI surveillance state by 2029. You're also just as deep in Israel's blackmail book and they probably have most of your state secrets (which is why the prosecutions, they don't care about the kids). Less violent, same destination.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Does a UK passport allow you to live in other parts of the Commonwealth than just British Isles?

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think so, sadly, but I'm not entirely sure. I'm leaning towards no. A EU passport is more flexible, and one can move to Spain and become a national somewhat quickly and then idk settle in Germany or Finland if you want to. Ofc if SHTF in Europe that's a different story, but I guess you could in theory move to French Guyana, lol.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    They're gonna be disappointed when british police arrests them for wrongthink on twitter

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    feking imigints takin er jerbs

    And because this is the Internet /s

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Well I did immigrate here like five years ago. But I kept my US job. I've just become a weird hermit. It's great.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    Coming back home eh?

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You know the US is a real shthole when people decide to move to the UK, which also is a shthole lol

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  • [–] 36 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I left the US for the UK well before Trump 1 and am still here. I can confidently assure you that you have no idea what you're talking about.

    While it's far from perfect (nowhere is), our quality of life here is far better, and interactions with the authorities and law enforcement are far less brutal than they were in the US. And people here are friendlier. But then, I'm not living in London, which is crawling with driven, greedy assholes.

    The problem with getting your info from headlines is that you don't know which sources are serving an agenda rather than reporting actual news. One thing that is wrong with the UK is that its media is just as fucked as that in the US. With the exception of a few publications (the wishy-washy LibDem Guardian, the conservative contrarian Private Eye), it's all billionaire's bullshit. And 90% of podcasters are semiliterate knobheads who just make shit up.

    Having said all that, it does rain a lot, and despite massive gains over the past few decades, the food still could do with further improvement. But when I return to the US for visits, even in progressive bubbles where my friends and family live, I'm always glad to come back here. Especially when the Greens just decisibely defeated Farage in a by-election and made Starmer look like the wanker that he is.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    Luckily Americans don't speak any foreign languages so rest of Europe is safe.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    The ones who can afford to move are the ones that statistically be more likely to speak more than one language. Learning German myself to add to my pile.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Einen großen schwarzen Kaffee, bitte.

    It's the only sentence I know and, honestly, it seems to work well in most situations.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Shouldn't that be 'Kaffees'? or "Eine grosse schwarze Kafee"?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    My German is getting quite rusty, but I think I remember enough of the grammar...

    The noun "Kaffee" is masculine, so normally, the nominative form would be "der Kaffee" or "ein Kaffee". However, in OP's sentence, it would be a direct object, making it use the accusative form of "den/einen Kaffee". Then, the adjective will take the same ending as the article here (though the rules are weird and complex, so that's not always the case).

    Thus, "Einen grossen, schwarzen Kaffee" should be correct.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    I'm not sure that would actually be a step in the right direction.

    They've been showing their ass a lot lately.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Trust me the Americans leaving the country are not the Trumpers. Now is the time to steal the brain drain for yourself.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the original comment is talking about how the UK is pretty fascist and dystopian as well.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    If you really have a reason to find out, it'd be worth coming here and seeing for yourself. And make sure to see more than London. There's a lot more to the UK than the metropolis.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago*

    I think the laws the government are passing around online Id requirements and trying to force companies to break encryption so they can have pervasive surveillance powers are very dystopian and the main thing I'm talking about. I'm sure the people and cities are very nice though, I've never been

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Where are all the racists who claim that they aren't racist for wanting to deport black and brown people? You know? All those reform voters who insist its not a race thing? Why arent they kicking off about all of the americans trying to come over?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Probably not the people who are affected the most by their government.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Why UK though? They want to be in the next populist shit hole?

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago (22 children)

    Why the fuck would anyone want to go to the UK? It is Trumpland, but with a accent.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Because most Americans can only speak English. And Australia is really far away.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (7 children)

    isn't Australia just as bad if not worse?

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    They just banned corporations from donating to politicians. So. Maybe not really. They also don't have a trump.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    but they do have a Murdoch...

    and a NSW...

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Hey man... Murdoch is fair play....but this was meant to be a clean fight, no need to hit below the belt. They're ashamed enough about it, don't gotta rub it in their face all the time....

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I'm sure whoever ends up in charge it'll definitely be an improvement......🙄

    Heavy on the /S here

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Especially when Ireland is right there!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I'm in England and feel you're on the money there. Their economy is booming with lots of US companies utilising their tax efficient policies.

    You get the best of both worlds and hey, Americans are always saying they're Irish so they're going back to their motherland

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    We haven't gone anywhere near being Trump land yet. And the Trump party (Reform) just got wrecked in an election yesterday.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago*

    You seem to somehow have missed the whole Brexit shitshow, including the Tory party becoming openly Anti-Immigrant, Racist and ultra-nationalist with massive national delusions of grandeur (made oh so painfully obvious when the pranced into the EU exit negotiation loudly proclaiming they held all the cards, ultimatilly showing that they did not and not getting the things they wanted the most).

    (And lets not forget Britain's very own version of Trump: Boris Johnson)

    You also seem to have missed the insane Civil Society Surveillance levels as disclosed in the Snowden Revelations and the recent legislation forcing Britons to ID themselves on the Internet, which is now being further tightenned with proposed restrictions to VPN use.

    And lets not forget the anti-Demonstration legislation of the last decade as well as the anti-Terrorism legislation and how it was recently used to arrest anti-Genocide demonstrators as "Terrorism Supporters".

    This is not normal in Democracy.

    I've lived in multiple countries in Europe, including Britain, and in my view the UK is the most Fascist country in Europe after Belarous and Russia, it's just that British politicians don't play the loud and obnoxious strongman role like Trump or Orban, they play the posh vaguelly aristocratic type who rather than fight the Justice System subverts it to make it a tool to punish those of the riff-raff who are a bit more uppity, hence things like using anti-Terrorism legislation to crack down on those who demonstrate against His Majesty's Government's active support of Genocide.

    Granted, given how far the Overtoon Window is to the Right in Britain, I can understand that whilst those outside see the present day Tories as a Far-Right party, for those inside that kind of politics is now so normalized that it's hard for most to recognize just how Far-Right the present day Tories are both in broader European terms and even in historical British terms, so they only see the even-more-Far-Right insane nutters of Reform as Far-Right.

    Mind you in my experience the shift to and normalization of the Far-Right is one of the things Britain is ahead of the rest of Europe in: I'm seing happening were I am now the kind of thing I saw happen in Britain over a decade ago.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Having lived there, I agree that Britain is the most Fascist nation in Europe after Belarous and Russia, though theirs is the Posh Aristocratic version, so it's not as loud and obvious as "strongman" Fascism.

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