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[–] 69 points 8 months ago* (11 children)

Asian Giant Hornet: I am death destroyer of worlds.
Me: Weeping uncontrollably

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  • [–] 38 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Jesus that's almost going from swatting to a fist fight

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They're big for sure, but there's some forced perspective in that photo. They're typically substantially smaller than your little finger.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Yeah it is a majorly warped perspective, look at the size of the thumb.

    Still they are big girls, here's a photo and wiki says...

    The hornet has a body length of 45 mm (1+3⁄4 in), a wingspan around 75 mm (3 in), and a stinger 6 mm (1⁄4 in) long, which injects a large amount of potent venom.

    Asian giant hornet

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Ugh, i saw one of those fuckers buzzing about in south of England. Sounded like a mini military helicopter buzzing about looking for bees to fuck up.

    Reported it

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Reported it

    The Neighbourhood Watch will get it sorted!

    (I kid -- for the unaware reader, they're invasive, they threaten native bees, and you can report sightings to the government).

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I had to google it because having those guys here would be super scary. But it seems like like Asian Hornets are invasive in Europe, which are already big. The picture shows an Asian Giant Hornet, which are even bigger.

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  • [–] 51 points 8 months ago

    Every non-aggressive wasp species:

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  • [–] 49 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Not wasps, but yellowjackets specifically. Irrational anger with wings, little bastards.

    Love me some chill time with a mud dauber though.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    We get yellow jackets in our yard every summer and I used to destroy them all on sight but I always felt so bad about taking out entire families with chemical warfare so I've switched to a live and let live strategy the last few years. They are chill and we've only had one sting in those years and I think that was just an unfortunate accident with my youngest stepping on one and pissing it off. I still have several cans of spray so if they break the treaty then I'm ready to go to war, but for now we're able to cohabitate.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Some made a nest in our gravel driveway a few years ago and were eating from the fig tree in our front yard. I borrowed a shop vac, put soapy water in it and then laid the nozzle next to the hole for an entire day. After I stopped seeing any I got boiling soapy water and poured it down the hole several times and what was left of the nest (and queen) came out. So many dead Yellowjackets!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    This. I have no problem with anything but the yellow jackets. Over the years, dog has been stung, I have been stung and my wife has been stung. All of us minding our own business and just got too “close.” I will burn those f@&)ers to the ground every chance I get.

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  • [–] 46 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I once bought a house with two mature, fruiting pear trees. I learned to quickly pick up any pears that fell to the ground, because if I didn't, the pear juice would ferment under the skin, and become slightly alcoholic.

    Then wasps would pierce the skin, drink the juice, get drunk, and then chase around anyone who entered the yard. Apparently wasps are mean drunks.

    Didn't know that previously, but not surprised. Wasps are dickheads on a good day.

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  • [–] 43 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Many wasp species are generally non-aggressive, and great pollinators! If they don't fuck with you, then don't fuck with them!

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yep, surprisingly some of the biggest like the “Cicada Killer” and Bald Faced Hornets (as long as you’re not messing with their nest) are very chill around humans as long as you don’t mess with them. Yellowjackets OTOH can get fucked. Fearless and they’ll chase you in numbers if you even just step by the nest or go by it with a mower.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    I agree! The mud daubers and digger wasps can look quite scary with their nipped waists, but they are quite docile. I have a bird bath, and when it’s empty they sit on the edge patiently while I fill it, then gently crawl into the periphery. They have never bothered me in the slightest

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    There’s a few that hang around my yard. They gobble up annoying pests and there’s one that seems to visit me deliberately. We hang out for a bit and then she goes off to her duties.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I think wasp get angry in autumn due to low sugar in diet which I think we can all relate.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Wasps go through two dietary phases, one where they eat sugar (usually first part of the year) and second where they eat protein (usually second half) and then there's - well 99% of wasps die every year, nature starves them to death, nature is brutal.

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  • [–] 157 points 8 months ago* (44 children)

    There are thousands of wasp species and the overwhelming majority don't even have the ability to sting humans. You probably don't ever even notice them, despite being the most important group of pollinators in the world, because you might mistake them for bees or flies. Also, bees are wasps (and so are ants). For more wasp facts, please like and subscribe.

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  • [–] 286 points 8 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 52 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    This is the only correct reply. In case you do not already have the tick version, here you go:

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  • [–] 45 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Whenever you see posts like this assume that the op is referencing yellow jacket waps, after I started gardening ive learned more about wasps and their part to play in my garden, yellow jacks can suck a dick though. They can go from 0 to 100 real quick and little provocation, I will choose to protect my kids over them.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Paper wasps are complete dicks too but I hold a specific grudge for bald faced hornets!

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    yellow jacks can suck a dick though

    I already liked wasps before, you don't have to sell to me. Different topic though: How do you make them do that?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago*

    California's Oxnard High School team/mascot is the Yellow Jackets. Admittedly they are badass motherfuckers, but it's a little weird in cheering because most traditional cheers assume two syllables and you wind up yelling "Go Jackets!" like some kind of radical haberdashery

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago* (10 children)

    While Ants, Bees, Wasps and Hornets are all in the family Hymenoptera, it is incredibly wrong to suggest that Bees and Ants are Wasps.

    They are distinct species that are related to each other.

    Sincerely — a pest control technician who is incredibly tired of helping solve "bee" problems, when 99% of the time, they have a Wasp problem.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    Yup! Was about to type out a similar reply. To further clarify:

    Hymenoptera - order of Insecta - ants, bees, wasps, hornets
    Aculeata - infraorder of Hymenoptera - bees, wasps, hornets
    Apidae - family of Aculeata - bees (also bumblebees)
    Vespidae - family of Aculeata - wasps, hornets Formicidae - family of Hymenoptera - ants

    edit20260227: forgot ants belong to aculeata

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Except many non-Vespidae, both living and extinct, would readily be considered wasps. Look at this thing and tell me it’s not a wasp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eusapvertic.jpg If that’s a wasp and a yellow-jacket is a wasp, then so are ants and bees, in the same way that we are apes and birds are dinosaurs. You wouldn’t call a zoo to deal with a loose human and you wouldn’t call dr. Grant to deal with a pigeon, but biologically it makes a lot more sense to deal with ancestry then with how a species interacts with humans.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    You can't argue "this looks like a wasp so it is a wasp" and then extend from that to "and because of evolutionary history, all these other things that don't look like wasps are also wasps"

    Defining groups of species with a common word is always going to be ambiguous, but you need to stay consistent in what you use to define it. By the same logic you can argue that humans are fish, because whales clearly are fish if you just look at them, and whales and humans are both mammals.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Sure, but I was responding to someone who was defining wasp (the common word) based on clade (using scientific words).

    I’m fine with common parlance words for things. What I had issue with was arbitrarily restricting the definition of wasp to a specific clade, which would exclude ants and bees, and also a whole host of at the very least wasp-adjacent animals which would now be stuck with no real way to describe them.

    (Also, yes, fish is a rubbish scientific word. We’re far closer cousins of salmon than sharks are. By any reasonable definition of fish, at least biologically, we are fish. You could redefine “fish” in the same way we define “tree”, i.e. based on structure and not on ancestry, but by that definition whales should still be fish. The word “fish” shouldn’t be allowed within 50 metres of cladistics.)

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    If that’s a wasp and a yellow-jacket is a wasp, then so are ants and bees,

    That logic doesn't check out, given Sapygidae is a family of sapygid wasps belonging to the Aculeata infraorder.

    Aculeata is named after its defining feature, which is the modification of the ovipositor into a stinger. This trait doesn't strictly constitute a wasp, which is why they have their own families (Vespidae, Sapygidae, Pompilidae, Myrmosidae, basically all of the Chrysidoidea superfamily, etc.).

    All wasps are aculeate, but not all aculeates are wasps.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Just to confirm, you don’t think of jewel wasps, spider wasps, sand wasps, and flower wasps as wasps, since they’re not part of the Vespidae, correct?

    I’ve mostly seen wasps defined as basically “Apocrita but not the ones we don’t think count as wasps because there’s too many of them, specifically bees and ants.” Which leads to the same weird reasoning that would somehow make legless lizards lizards, but not snakes. I’ve seen velvet ants referred to as wasps, but not ants, even though true ants are far closer cousins to Vespidae. That just isn’t a viable scientific definition. I’m glad we’ve mostly moved on to grouping avian dinosaurs among the dinosaurs, but it feels like a lot of similar groupings are still lagging.

    I’m willing to accept Vespidae as a synonym of wasps, but that excludes a ton of wasps. It also erases the very wasp-like nature of ant ancestors, which is what makes cladistics so fascinating. So why not just open it up to include all Apocrita and be done with it?

    I’m also fine with a morphological definition of wasps, like how “tree” isn’t based on ancestry but on structure, but you were the one pulling in the scientific names.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Just to confirm, you don’t think of jewel wasps, spider wasps, sand wasps, and flower wasps as wasps, since they’re not part of the Vespidae, correct?

    Negative, those are all considered wasps alongside Vespidae. I said "that logic doesn't check out" because what you had essentially said in that previous reply was "if wasp==wasp and wasp==wasp, then so are ants and bees", which is.. well.. false.

    It also erases the very wasp-like nature of ant ancestors

    That ancestry is pretty much expressed in Formicidae belonging to the Aculeata infraorder, though I do agree that putting them under some sort of vespid superfamily would be even more fitting, since ants pretty much did evolve from wasps.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Why does it matter if you're called for a bee problem, but it's wasps? And wouldn't actual bee problems require a Bee Keeper?

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago*

    Most of the time: it's more about the fact that bees are typically harmless, and calling a bee a wasp, to me, is like calling Starry, Pepsi, because they're both made by PepsiCo.

    And yes, honeybees are a protected species here, meaning we'd need an apiarist to either remove the hive and capture the swarm, or officially tell us that the hive is too large to safely remove, without destroying the home.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yeah, because otherwise by the above logic, one could also say, "bees are humans (and so are eels)", because they all belong to the Animalia kingdom.

    Oh even better, "bees are Uranus (and so are sedimentary rocks)", because all are nouns.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    The motherfuckers that set up shop inside my car definitely had the ability to sting humans.

    About the only time I can drop an unironic "source: my ass."

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    Where in your car and how did you end up getting rid of them?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Between the driver's door and the B pillar. We had some "bug freeze" spray that fucks up their joints.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    I was wondering if it was in the engine compartment or something if you could just let it run in your garage and the carbon monoxide would kill them.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    No, I will not like, or subscribe.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Keyword detected:

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    You are now subscribed to Wasp Facts!

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    In my experience, even the stingy ones aren't that aggressive. They get pissed if you attack them or their hive and can panick if they get stuck in hair or clothes. I usually just (slowly and gently) "push" them away with my hand if they get too close, like at 10cm/s. They usually give up and move on if they were trying to check me out, or continue on if they were passing by too close. If they are trying to get at my food or drink, they might be a bit more persistant about it, but I haven't had one get aggressive because of it.

    That said, I had an ex that bugs just seemed to hate/love. Apparently house flies can bite (though I still have a feeling that she was bit by a different fly that looks like a house fly, but can't say for sure because I did see her getting harassed by bugs that just ignored me). So ymmv.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Mr.Gardener or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Wasp.

    I'm irrationally fearful of wasps, like I absolutely freak out when one is near me, but I learned they eat some of the annoying fuckers that ruin my vegetables/lettuce so I learned to tolerate them lol

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Bumble bee? More like stumble bee.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    What I want to know is if the bumble bee is called that because of the word bumble, or if the word bumble got that meaning because of the bee......ok, so a visit to wiktionary tells me the word bumble came first, then was applied to the bee.

    EDIT: Wait, it may be the other way around. bumblebee came from humbul-be and merged with Middle English bombeln humble meaning to buzz. Man, I still don't really even know.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    came from humbul-be and merged with Middle English bombeln

    As you've said, in both senses it's related to the sound they make. "Bumble" on its own, in the sense of clumsy, meandering movement, is probably unrelated but I guess it's plausible that it also had an influence on the mutation of "humbul" to "bumble" even if the latter was primarily about the noise.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    And then the first time you see a cicada wasp...
    The sight of one of those will make you want to find a brick to drop on it, until you find out that they're completely harmless. (unless you're a cicada)

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    Ive never heard it called a cicada wasp. Where Im from we just call them cicadas. Theyre more like a big ass grasshopper than a wasp

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Cicada wasps are a cicada predator. In a totally normal wasp behavior they paralyze a cicada and leave it for their larva to eat.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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    This little godfucker of a wasp is the Eastern Cicada Killer. It'll make you want to both run and hide, but yeah, completely chill towards people. The first time I saw one was in Kentucky- it was horrifying but we did a lil catch and release and it was all good from there.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    I actually have had one of those in my mouth before unfortunately. I didnt know thats what it was.

    I was barbecuing at a cabin in Shenandoah and it flew into my Mikes Hard Lemonade without me noticing. When I took a swig I had what felt like a large piece of wet carpet in my mouth, and then that fuckin thing was the result. Thankfully, he was extremely intoxicated from his swim and could hardly move let alone sting my mouth out of self defense or anything. I ended up mercy killing it on the assumption that being submerged in alcohol for a while had messed him up pretty badly

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    The bumble bee part is so accurate. They’re basically the golden retrievers of the insect world—super fuzzy, very friendly, and zero motor skills.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    My local wasps don't bother me and I don't bother them. Long as you aren't close to the nest, most wasps are chill.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    Wasps are the F-16s of the bee world.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    *Mason bee gets headache and sees numbers

    Mason bee: the numbers, arrrgghhh what do they mean?

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