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I grew up watching TNG with my dad. He had the same reaction. Well, minus the blood.

It's a very Roddenberry design.

Dark Matter is how you get evil Wesley.

(Wil Wheaton played an evil space tech bro.)

What is this image from?

Wait, I recognize Milly Vanilly, but who's the other girl smirking? I don't remember her.

Both Wesley and Nog started out with rough writing. Once their characters build out, they improve. Nog moreso, being part of a serialized show.

What's with the hate Wesley gets?

I don't hate Wesley, I just love to laugh at how bad Picard and Wesley's relationship is in season one.

In early episodes of any show, there's stuff that doesn't turn out to work for the characters.

But Picard/Wesley is such a bold dynamic that doesn't work for either character, never gets resolved, and goes nowhere.

Then later, it gets retroactivelymuch weirder, because the show "Picard" 100% confirms that Picard was sleeping with Wesley's mother, at some point, and by implication, even during their uncomfortable season 1.

So Picard, already an absolute picture of calm reasoned negotiation - just sometimes randomly goes off on one young cadet whose mother he happens to be banging.

It's weird. It doesn't make any sense in the broader later canon, and it makes me laugh every time I think about it.

That's an excellent question. I wonder if it has something to do with your age when you first saw the series, or maybe the problem that adult writers tend to not write kids very well. I bet at least part of it is that Picard himself treats Wesley pretty poorly in several episodes. Oh, and the fact that he solves the problem of the week ludicrously easily a couple of times, in a Gary Stu sort of way.

The internet hating on Wil Wheaton / Wesley Crusher is such an old bit that it has its own momentum and is no longer rooted in anything. Picard yelling “shut up Wesley” is such a meme that people shout this at Mr. Wheaton in public. He’s written about it a lot.

But it is also true that his character was an odd fit: very on-again / off-again as a member of the cast, poorly costumed, and deliberately written as a kind of whiny genius-boy who gets in trouble but always saves the day. Some people found this one of the less enjoyable parts of the show.

Both Wesley and Nog(?) were written as a 'look kids, a cool kid to relate to' character. Which was very forced and off putting.

They wrote him to be cheap drama to give Stewart something to work with instead of just being a toned down, professional Shatner. We were all going to take the Captains side, seeing him as annoying as the Captain did. From the sounds of Wheaton's book, he really wasn't treated all that well by the show runners for being as young as he was. It's kind of shitty to write a young kid in to be the conflict in a well respected characters arc.

I honestly wouldn't have watched Star Trek TNG if I hadn't randomly scrolled through the channels and seen a boy my age on a spaceship.

So regardless of how well written or acted the character is, I'm always really grateful! (But I recognize that's probably a pretty niche situation compared to what other Trekkies feel)

Im on Season 6 of my once a decade rewatch. They’ve still not hooked up. Jean Luc is running around with Vash. Bev had her ambassador until the trill half died. Meanwhile, these guys have breakfast together, dance around the possibility of a together, and that is all.

Would that be kinslaying?

Has anyone ever considered just not building the Wesley crushing machine?

"honestly Captain it was obviously just a misunderstanding Wesley is free to-"

Ppssffshhhzap

"Rules sir, are rules"

and he accidentally fell on some ornamental plants, the locals wanted him executed.

Straight to lethal injection. No trial, no nothing. We have the best flower beds. Because of lethal injection.

Just saw it now for the first time. I think he was sunburned.

No, because any place like that cannot be a perfect paradise.

Fuck no! Walking on eggshells as it is, the only perfect paradise, is wherever I cannot interact with anyone. No one to interact with: no one to offend, or wrong.

I'd listen to just AI.

If I were in the ST universe, my life would probably just be about getting energy that I would use to power my holodeck and maybe one of those external ones, too, to hide my presence on some planet whose geothermal energy I've tapped or whatever. Just make my own paradise until I get bored of it.

He's alone now!