And I will seriously consider voting for just about anyone else left of him in the primary. No offense to him, he seems like a very solid dude, but the time for half-measures, centrists, and people that believe institutions will save us is well beyond over.
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I’d vote vote for anyone (Mark Kelly) over anyone who protects pedophiles. Plain. Simple. Straightforward.
Honestly, I'm just happy if theres an alternative to Newsome. Kelly isnt a progressive, but hes not a full blown corpo shill that the DNC would happily shove down our throats if unopposed.
Yeah I intended to write a very similar comment. I think Kelly is respected as someone who is both honest and who cares about the country, so while I’d nominally prefer a progressive, Kelly would be a huge alternative to Newsom’s slicked-back car salesman energy.
So if he wins he will be at retirement age when he is starting? Are you sure he is old enough for American voters?
i like mark kelly and gabby would be a fantastic first lady but please not right now; we need a radical to clean up the mess.
We need a Warrior, who will go after MAGA's crimes likes it's personal. I don't care who it is, old, young, man, woman, black, white, anybody, everything else is on the back burner. We can't get this country on any kind of a track until we ruthlessly crush MAGA, purge it from our government and our country, and harshly punish them for their crimes. Only then, can we start to make plans to redeem our Nation in the eyes of our citizens, the world, and history
I'll vote for anybody who pledges to make that their primary priority as POTUS.
Remember MAGA chanting "lock her up"? We need that energy now for the Democrats, lock Trump up ... imprison all of these corrupt pieces of filth and seize their grifted assets.
Aside from lacking apparent credentials, I think Ilhan Omar would be a good wartime president. She wanted to punch the bastard that squirted at her, which is the right response to Republican jackasses.
The age calls for Teddy and Franklin Roosevelts: People willing to get into the fight, and contend with the issues of their times.
Omar is ineligible for the presidency as she wasn't born in the US
And yet, we got a rapist in office, and the emolument clauses haven't been applied for his innumerable acts of corruption. I would much rather have a good naturalized citizen as my president, than a shitty homegrown.
I'd like to think America could get over its religious bigotry but that won't happen in the foreseeable future
I just had a thought about how funny it would be for the next president to report Trump and fam for sedition
He would be 65 in 2029 when he actually took office. Can we get someone who is about 20 years younger?
Heads must roll for what the trump regime has done already and the billionaires and corporations that allowed and backed it. So any candidate must be the driving force of implementing those consequences, or get out of the way.
Either the next president will be a Democratic Socialist, or it will be a fascist. Democrats need to get back 20% of their base, plus the margin they need to pick up in the places they need to make up the differences they'll need to win the big house.
Ask yourself this without looking at this announcement: Can a corporate Democrat do that?
I'm telling you now, either the next president will be a Democratic Socialist, or the Republicans win. No amount of glazing liberals is going to make them capable of winning an election.
Bernie 2028.
As a Canadian, can you please stop picking ridiculously old people?
Find someone in the 45-65 year age range, you're going to get a better outcome that way.
Our oldest Prime Minister in the last 50 years started when he was 65, most of them have been under 50.
No can do. It will be a day of national pride when we elect someone with a triple digit age.
I love Bernie, but that ship has sailed. AOC is our next best hope, but we have to back DSA candidates at every level in every race. Even if we succeed, there is a real chance we don’t avoid violence. The Republic of Gilead is already here and the Republican pedo nazis don’t intend to ever allow or accept another fair, democratic election again. They are nothing if not open about that fact.
That Munich conference has me in doubts about AOC
What happened there?
I'm assuming they're trying to say that because she pauses and actually thinks about what she is trying to say (much like Obama did) before she says it, that somehow that makes her unfit to be president, because reasons.
You can't just link a 25 minute video with no further explenation and expect anyone to actually watch it, and know what your point is.
I was busy so I just added the link. The point was mentioned after the initial clip of AOC speaking.
Anyway, she stated she was in favor of a neoliberal /neocon objective of spreading democracy. At the same time, she made her point with a massive word salad that appeared inauthentic.
I doubt he will run.
Would love it but to old. If AOC ran with him as vice, I would back that.
Still doing the work to get fascists elected I see.
Is he not a democratic socialist?
As long you understand that appeasing your perspective on who the candidate needs to be isn't important, we should be fine.
If you are BNMW/ Blue MAGA/ ABWD, whatever you want to call it: We don't need to cater to your perspective. You'll vote for anyone. Great. We appreciate you taking a back seat, because when previously your perspectives have been centered in the party, Democrats lose those elections to facsists or neoconservatives.
As long as you can accept that you don't matter when it comes to who Democrats pick to run as president, we're all good.
You're not wrong
Getting downvoted for being right about the DNC, yep it's .world's politics forum.
Well. I can tell you this, that the ratios are better than they've ever been. My perspective and advocacy has moved from about a 10:1 downvote ratio to a about a 2:1/ 1:1 depending on the thread.
Liberals are beginning to understand how wrong they got it. But its a slow process. That being said, you can't change a place like .world without being part of it. I think its important not to retreat when the majority is wrong about something.
I think Gavin’s going to do well even if the left is doing all the work spreading the right’s propaganda about him.
But maybe Bernie will win the primaries and it’ll usher in a new golden age and we’ll overthrow capitalism.
Personally, what I am hoping for is a ticket with AOC as president, and Mark Kelly as vice. He can help AOC with military issues, while she can guide the nation towards some flavor of Democratic Socialism.
I think we will see a civil war, so we definitely need a military expert in a major role. Kelly should do nicely.
Personally, what I am hoping for is a ticket with AOC as president, and Mark Kelly as vice.
I'd rather AOC take over the Senate and replace Schumer as majority (minority for now, but majority forever) leader. She'd have more influence for longer than just being a president.
That's fair. IMO, the presidency is more important in this political environment, since setting the direction and tone of the nation is important.
It sucks that we don't have lots of a high-profile progressives, because the spread of competent and fiery people is a bit too thin. Our agenda shouldn't have tradeoffs about who is best for what.
It's been the bureaucratic underpinnings that have kept the country recognizable for now. I would argue that the left needs more long term, behind the scenes work, similar to what the right did for decades before Trump came along.
IMO, the presidency is more important in this political environment, since setting the direction and tone of the nation is important.
Maybe. What's more important in setting the shape of the administration? The dough (cabnet, legislative agenda, international stance) good for just 4 years? Or the mold that dough must pass through?
It really depends on whether a president gets two terms, and now the possibility of a civil war. Senate is good if you expect normalish times...which is iffy. I think the midterms will decide what tack AOC and friends will follow.
If it were possible, I wouldn't mind Sanders being the 2028 candidate, if he still has a sound mind and the conditions allow for a peacetime president. Setting aside age, I kinda worry that he lacks sufficient hostility to prosecute the Epstein class - because he is a gentle dude, IMO.
As far as I know, there's no reason that a president couldn't return to the Senate after their term is up. So why not both?
I'd vote for him. Back when Biden was dropping out, I posted the question of peoples preferred democratic candidate, and Kelly was suggested by several people.
I think he could have won the '24 election had he been the candidate, and I think he could win the next election also.
The fact that (as he said in the video) he "Doesn't consider himself a politician" is a huge plus.
It's a bit sad that he's starting to get old though. 60 seemed perfectly okay, 65 is a bit on the high end.
Worker led revolution please this system doesn’t serve us.


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