Wait, people think that people want to drive in Seattle? Lol fuck that shit. Worst road layouts I've ever seen, terrible traffic, and a good light rail and bus system.
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oh my god they pedestrianized Pike Place?? that'll make it a thousand times nicer, i hope they don't gentrify-out that really good random dim sum street food place with the huge bao
They definitely won't, the prices will just go up to match the rents. Last time I was there the line was insanely long, raising prices certainly wouldn't deter the majority of their customers.
So the argument was "if we make it walkable, people will stop coming here"?
Yep, that is indeed what it boils down to because it's a major tourist attraction for people coming in to visit Seattle. So the city councilperson argued that it would reduce people visiting if they had to park far away.
Glad to see they were wrong.
I’ve been to Seattle twice and we went to the market both times. We always walked from our hotel bc there’s quite a few hotels in that area (almost like it’s a hot tourist area) but even when we wanted to go somewhere further away, we just either used public transit or those rentable scooter things. Also the first time we went to pike place market like 4 years ago or something cars kept trying to drive around the crowd and it made everything so much worse. I swear some people have forgotten that not using a car is an option, even when they only want to go somewhere a block away
The absolutely baffling thing is that that one particular stretch of road has been being shut down to car traffic for various events for like... decades.
Its very widely a social faux pas to drive on that street during busy market hours, becsause it has always been full of pedestrians without it even being blocked off, again, for decades.
They'll regularly have overflow marker stalls, or just functionally limit it to market stall shopkeeps unloading or packing up their stuff.
The only people who would be against this like 1/8 of a mile of road that is nearly always swarming with people just finally being formally classed as 'no cars' are fucking idiots and/or obscenely privileged suburbanites who cannot understand the concept of walking.
There is literally a (or multiple) parking garage(s) under the Market. You can park in it, and emerge just literally in the Market.
https://www.pikeplacemarket.org/parking-directions/
Its just that it doesn't work so well for modern, literally larger than a WW2 M4 Sherman tank, automobiles.
If you wanna zip around Seattle and actually be able to park, get a subcompact.
It can be done, I've done it, for a decade.
Your F-350 is shit outta luck though.
The cars there were always a joke. It was always some poor sucker of a tourist who didn't know what it was and would take half an hour to go three blocks dodging all the tourists.
Yes, even if you could legally drive in Pike's Place, for all intents and purposes, you might as well say that you couldn't drive there before. Those politicians who said nobody would shop there were either lying through their teeth or completely uninformed.
A lot of traffic came from people passing through in their cars just because Google Maps said so. It's stupid to clog up a social area in most cities.
It really needs more trees, dang.
Lol wtf. I've lived in Seattle most of my life now, and have known Pike Place Market since I first moved here in the early 90s. And that strip of road down there NEVER should have been a road. Seattle needs to just mark it off and have it be foot traffic only.
That also being said, there's something to it though, being crammed on the sidewalk in the pouring rain, alongside a million other people on this tiny little sidewalk, around all the various hidden and famous shops and importers.
I don't think anybody actually thought closing the road from car traffic would negatively affect the market. You'd have to be a vitriolic idiot to actually believe that. That's like saying having a bus service Disneyland would make people less likely to go. It just doesn't make sense.
Yeah, I live in Seattle and have been to Pike Place many a time. Having cars down there was fucking deranged. Neither the pedestrians nor the drivers could possibly have been happy about the situation.
there’s something to it though, being crammed on the sidewalk in the pouring rain, alongside a million other people on this tiny little sidewalk, around all the various hidden and famous shops and importers.
Yeah for me this was the feeling of "fuck seattle" and "i'm never coming back here." But now it's looking much better.
oh nice, they pedestrianized pike place market? that place is famous, there's textbooks in asia that tell about it, part of the colonial cultural education bullshit that comes with compulsory English education. learn all about a bunch of American cities
And look, nobody in the shops, everybody's just walking there! /s (It do need more trees tho.)
Banning all non-delivery and non-emergency vehicles should have been done many years ago in the most visited attraction in the Pacific Northwest. But I'm glad to see Seattle as one of the leading US cities in urban planning.
So many parking spaces wasted! Now small businesses will suffer 😢
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Oh fuck I didn’t hear about this! Now I actually want to go back to Pike Place Market. I haven’t been in ages because of the fucking cars
Carbrains have one refrain: economic harm. As if driving any distance longer than a football field is more convenient than a walkable/bikeable city with good public transit for longer hauls.
Nice to hear, I visited a while back and barely even remember cars because it seems so impractical for that area. It's already so very walkable, high density shopping area (with lovely food).
So glad they did this. I made a wrong turn once when I first moved here and drove down the road accidentally. Blocking it off just helps everyone.
Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god! Where will all the cars park? Won't anybody think of the poor cars?
I didn't see any changes over Pride weekend 6/29. Cars still turn off of first onto Pike. I wasn't in this lower / outer corner of the market though. 🤷♂️
Personally I'm against pedestrianization of Pike Place. It's a literal tourist trap. Ever clueless car that finds itself in that hell warms my heart.
Let the cars in, make them suffer.
TBF, I don't see a single shopping bag or anything purchased in the entire photo.
Has the thought occurred that these people might not be shopping but commuting? Forced to commute on foot like some medieval peasant? You're ideology is showing
Sure, commuting through a 3 block market. Totally a thing in reality.
Sure if you're commuting you should have no issue commuting exactly one block over from the market.
I've been there in person, even before closing from vehicles, there wasn't an issue with congestion.
People walked to the market from the public parking a block away then as well.


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