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[–] 100 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's even more fucked up when you take the context into account. This article is making sidelong references to the movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Baby_(1978_film) which was based on a true story of child rape and exploitation. So this "article" takes that context and I guess sides with the monsters? fucking hell.

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  • [–] 79 points 8 months ago (20 children)

    Her torrid freshness became an underground legend among the talent set. Producers literally held their breaths, waiting for the remarkable Brooke Shields to reach a reasonable age of fuckability, not yet legal, but oh, so sweet. Welcome to the end of innocence, Brookie.

    Multiple people had to okay that. How? HOW????

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  • [–] 48 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    This is an unhinged paragraph about a 13 year old.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Producers literally held their breaths, waiting for the remarkable [anyone] to reach a reasonable age of fuckability, not yet legal, but oh, so sweet.

    Is a criminal thing to say about anyone at any age.

    Even saying that about an adult is suspect.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    How about Kid Rock on Saturday Night Live talking about not waiting till the Olsen twins turn 18 literally saying "If there's grass on the field, play ball!". If you didn't know, the Olsen twins were famous for their portrayal of the baby/toddler in Full House as well as a plethora of children's adventure videos starring them at various super young ages.

    This is the same Kid Rock who sang lyrics about child sex in a children's movie and just headlined the Alt-Right Superbowl not-quite-halftime show.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I haven't ever watched SNL because that show is better when filtered into secondhand aggregates.

    But Kid Rock is a disgusting creep who only has a platform anymore because the GOP can't get anyone else with a preexisting fanbase who is stupid enough to openly pitch pedophilia to their voters.

    He should've had a rock through the mouth decades ago.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    It really was the worst of times

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  • [–] 48 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Oh this shit is still going on. There were people in the late 90s early 00s that were counting down the days when the Olsen twins would turn 18.

    Would not surprise me one bit if there are websites dedicated other child celebrities.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    And following them ... Emma Watson all throughout the Harry Potter series.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Multiple people had to okay that.

    Did they though? Back in the 70s? I wasn't alive so this is a real question, but "Okay"ing things before publishing feels more recent than that. Especially in something like high times.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    If anything more people would've had to okay the article in the '70s because back then people still had to do manual typesetting and layouts, with specialists assigned to those roles, rather than writers being able to put together a finished article on their desktops like today.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I also wasn't alive, but tons of people okayed this. I don't understand how her parents not only pushed her to be a model, but found the right people to fight over the legal "right" to keep and distribute photos of a 10-year old that if you saw them today would send you straight to jail. Or get you an appointment as a cabinet secretary, I'm not sure if you're a millionaire or not.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Her parents okayed it and exploited her, especially her mom. She was in multiple movies as a child with nude scenes. As in, there were multiple movies with child porn in it released, commercially, in the United States. I genuinely don't understand how so many people didn't just come out and say "wooooah, this is child porn." A few did, but not many. Not that the Epstein Class didn't exist before, but JFC, to be so blatant...

    I'm also always astonished that she didn't end up on the typical abused child actor track and ended up having a career as an adult.

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  • [–] 63 points 8 months ago (3 children)
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    [–] [S] 117 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    If you are not familiar with Brooke's story... I'm sorry for ruining you day.

    Shields, now 59, has been vocal about her experiences, including her infamous appearance in Playboy at age 10 and her role when she was a minor in The Blue Lagoon, a film that featured her and her co-star in numerous nude scenes.

    Source: https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/resurfaced-article-from-1978-describes-12-year-old-brooke-shields-as-a-whore

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  • [–] 140 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Horrid.

    On a similarly infuriating note, the article states, “One user on X, @dvorstone, captured the public's shock and dismay . . . They wrote, ‘I don't think this country has, or even will, come to terms with the sexual corruption of the boomers. From the swinging to divorce to homosexuality, drag/transvestites, and pedophilia, they mainstreamed virtually every sexual degeneracy that has metastasized everywhere in our culture . . .”

    None of those words belong with pedophilia in that sentence. Breezing by a careless association like that it is why we are in a horrid place right now. This is the sexual corruption of the boomers still at play. Fuck that guy.

    A more suitable word would have been “conservative” or “religion,” since those are the key corrupters of civilized society in realtime.

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  • [–] 57 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Exactly, the depraved and cruel sex acts (such as rape of children) usually come from sexual repression from religion and lack of education on consent and boundaries due to religious repression.

    It does not come from healthy adults exploring with other healthy adults in a consensual environment with healthy boundaries. That comes from sexual education and freedom.

    EDIT: What's even more infuriating is the first sentence of that statement is still correct when it comes to rampant child abuse: "I don’t think this country has, or even will, come to terms with the sexual corruption of the boomers." The whole statement is real "they had us in the first half" material.

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago*

    One thing rarely touched on is how her image and movies were used to groom other children for sexual abuse back then. I know a few people, including myself, that were abused to The Blue Lagoon.

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  • [–] 56 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Kinda like this rich pedo culture only went into hiding recently, never died, and never lost influence among the money cult. I think I am going to learn more about pyrotechnics.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    It didn't go into hiding at all. None of the associates in the Epstein files seem to suffer any real consequences. They're all still doing sex parties at St. Barts on their oversized yachts full of teenage girls or snorting lines of coke at Miami Freak Parties hosted by CIA-connected cartel guys and their real estate magnet friends.

    I think I am going to learn more about pyrotechnics.

    Just fly a birthday balloon near a Texas airport and you can set off the worst disruption since 9/11.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Every single religious and political and business leader of significance in the US either pedo'd with Epstein or covered up for him.

    Joe Biden and Merrick Garland didn't just protect Trump from prosecution over the coup, they protected him from prosecution over THIS.

    The two of them sat on Epstein every day for four years.

    This evil is systemic to the point that it has taken over in the US.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Joe Biden and Merrick Garland didn’t just protect Trump from prosecution over the coup, they protected him from prosecution over THIS.

    The Epstein files were sealed under court order for the duration of the Biden admin, because they were evidence in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial and her subsequent appeals. Merrick Garland couldn't touch them.

    https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/why-were-epstein-files-not-released-biden/

    Maxwell was indicted on July 20th, 2020, with 5 months left in Trump I. The Epstein files were not released until November 2025 (some, with more in December) 10 months into Trump II, and Congress had to pass a fucking law to get Trump & Co. to do what he campaigned on doing for that to even happen.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-publishes-35-million-responsive-pages-compliance-epstein-files

    Trump owns all this.


    Cute. I see y'all downvoting but I don't see nobody disputing jack shit.

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  • [–] 51 points 8 months ago

    Today, it looks like the Brooke Shields situation was normal for the time, but I assure you that it wasn't. Plenty of people called out the behavior of those around her, and it led to the tighter restrictions on childhood sexual exploitation that we see today. There's a reason why Brooke Shields is pretty much a solo act - when Hollywood handlers tried to cross boundaries with her, they got slapped down pretty quickly, and nobody really followed.

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  • [–] 45 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Because 70's were WILD for that shit.

    Should I remind you that street marches were held in the name of "adult-child love"? That NAMBLA, a North-American Man-Boy Love Association (you can't make this shit up) tried to meddle with LGBTQ+ to get included? That songs were written about teenage girls being taught "adult love"?

    If anything, the article is characteristic of the time.

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  • [–] 44 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I did some research (more than I should for this ancient trite) and this comes from February 1978 issue of High Times magazine. A fucking stoner magazine! What the hell was the writer of some second-rate publication for grass and shrooms doing writing a lust piece about an up-and-coming child actress? What kind of grass would make you want to fuck a child?

    Hold on, it gets worse. According to Wikipedia, the article's writer, Ed Dwyer, was the magazine's founding editor. Imagine working at that magazine's office and reading your boss's 1970s equivalent of a horny post.

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago (21 children)

    For people who weren’t around in the 70s and 80s trust me the sexism and sexual abuse back then was unreal!

    How Shields was treated was not unusual at all.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    And fwiw, it wasn't acceptable then nor now.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    It was obviously acceptable then. They put it in a magazine to prove the point.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Just because people did it, didn't make it acceptable then nor now. Just because a person murders another person and it happened, doesn't make it acceptable. There is a bend to history written by the powerful that history absolves because "what was acceptable was different at the time." This line of thinking is flawed, ethics existed then too. Things like slavery and racism were just as wrong during times of codified 'legal' chattel slavery as it is today. It silences those enslaved and the many many people who decried its existence.

    Same applies here.

    Literally what we are fighting against with the Epstein files is precisely this.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    You speak like you were an adult during that time. Were you outspoken against the incident then or can you remember people showing revulsion like we do towards the Billionaire/Trump-Class Epstein event?

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (13 children)

    I was a bit young so I don't remember well, but wasn't there a mainstream movie about a girls sports team that was essentially just teen (13+ not 18+) softcore lesbian porn? I think one of the Hemmingway sisters was in it.

    EDIT: I think I am jamming two movies together. One is Personal Best (1982) with Mariel Hemingway. I still can't remember the name of the young teen girls one but I do now remember that the plot was that these young girls were trying to lose their virginity. Fucking boomers. Seriously.

    EDIT 2:

    Found it. The second movie was Little Darlings about girls at camp.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    One was a boomer and one was Matt Dillon who was their age, but yeah it was an insane movie.

    AND IT WAS BILLED AS FAMILY ENTERTIANMENT TOO!!!

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    The image above shows that it was rated R, so not a family movie. IDK, that kinda makes it worse in a way? If it were PG then there wouldn’t be any nudity. And a PG movie could be intended for actual teenagers. A rated R movie is primarily for an 18+ audience, so these girls were definitely being marketed to the adult male gaze.

    ETA: I saw this decades ago when I was way too young and don’t recall if there was actually nudity.

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  • [+] -11 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Not exactly of boomer age myself but deducting that you're younger I think it's pretty sad that you have this opinion...

    Yeah, teenage girls are interested in sex. Even lesbian sex! Sorry. It's sad that you think it's 'unhygienic' or whatever that there's movies about it.

    A few decades later American Pie broke the box office on the same premise. Is that ok because it's all heterosexual?

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Read my comment again. In the edits I clarified that my memory jammed Personal Best and Little Darlings together.

    Yes, I am younger than a boomer, but I am still in my fifties.

    I'm bisexual and have been dealing with homophobic bullshit for over forty years, so please kindly fuck off with your insinuations of homophobia.

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  • [+] -10 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    But then what do you find wrong with that movie? Apparently it's about 15 year olds trying to get laid at camp. I sure was trying to get laid at camp when I was 15

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    It, and other movies of the seventies and early eighties opted to sexualize young actresses, primarily for the enjoyment of adults and not to help young people feel seen and represented.

    You bring up American Pie, a movie about teens trying to get laid. Not a single one of those actors being sexualized was a minor or presented as a minor. That's what I have a problem with.

    I do not have a problem acknowledging young teen sexuality. I have a problem with the sexualization and exploitation of young teens by movie makers at the time.

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  • [+] -6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I haven't seen the movie, only read synopsis and reviews, and it doesn't seem at all like the actresses are sexualized. It's a coming of age comedy. Maybe the idea about 15 year olds thinking about sex is what got your mind going at the time?

    Can you explain how they were exploited?

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    I haven't seen the movie, only read synopsis and reviews...

    The main actresses were of age (17 & 18 at time of filming) but the movie was about a girls camp. Most of the other girls were much younger. Cynthia Nixon was 13 and looking younger. My issue is more with the portrayal than the plot. For a few years in the 70's and early 80's there was a trend to make jailbait movies for the pleasure of adults. Little Darlings wasn't the worst, but it is still problematic. The plot of Tatum O'Neil's character flirting and trying to bed a man in his late twenties or thirties was included for no other reason other than to feed the fantasies of the adult males in the Audience.

    Manhattan is another disturbing example. The actress was 16 and the plot was of a man in his forties in a sexual relationship with a high school girl.

    The Fog. Jamie Lee Curtis plays a teen hitchhiker than promptly fucks the rando trucker that gives her a lift.

    Examples seem endless and they all point to the same obsession that generation of men have with young teen girls. Woody Allen, Trump, Epstein, Ted Nugent, etc. They all demonstrated the same issue.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I don't think the opinion that young teens have an interest in sex is the problem.

    I think it's the tasteless execution of creating a whole ass movie about that opinionfantasy, and portraying them as debauched sex starved little whores.

    just my 2¢

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    her mom let her do a sexualized fully nude photoshoot when she was 10

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  • [–] 39 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    We need a "wildly infuriating" community

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago* (9 children)

    It's a 45 year old story. Woody Allen in the photo montage is a big red flag. But I wouldn't exactly call this breaking news. Brooke Shields had been out about her atrocious treatment even before #MeToo.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It’s not breaking news but it is a really interesting snapshot in time showing how not only were these behaviors occurring, it was at times very publicly normalized. Comparing a 13 year old actress to a “nascent whore” is staggering.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    Still infuriating, I'm not sure why you made this comment.

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    Woody Allen in the photo montage is a big red flag.

    Not at the time, though. His proclivities were not widely known 'til he and Farrow split in 1992, when she found out about Soon-Yi.

    ...Well, you might have had an inkling if you saw Manhattan.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    This is grim, but those of us born in the 80s will remember how absolutely obsessed the media was with Britney Spears becoming "legal" and reporting on her virginity every chance they got.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    UK newspapers would frequently publish photos of 16 years old girls with their tits out. That was only made illegal in 2004.

    Back during Paedomania of the early 2000s, Brass Eye had an episode taking the piss out of the press's new found moral crusade, despite them happily being in on it for the better part of 30 years. The press did not like this at all. Unfortunately they didn't seem to realise they were at fault, which led to the memorable juxtaposition of an article about "perv spoof bosses" on the opposite side of the page from an article about how big 15 year old Charlotte Church's boobs were getting.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I think that was still very much a thing at least a decade after Britney became legal.

    Gif reminder that Daenerys is 13 at the start of GoT. But ofc the actress was 24 in s1 so not really anything controversial.

    I can't say for sure that actresses ages were tracked as much but I remember like sites showing countdowns to when Emma Watson became of legal age. I'm the same age roughly so it wasn't weird for me but it was weird that people did it.

    And still do.

    https://medium.com/@yomiadegoke/counting-down-to-female-celebrities-turning-legal-is-more-than-crass-its-dangerous-94f8abbf4674

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    They did age up all the ASOIAF characters for the show, so the show insisting that we all ogle Daenerys didn't really have much to do with pedophilia. It was just regular old gross ass Hollywood misogyny.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I actually do not remember that because I actively ignored all popular music, all royal family, all oj simpson, and the rest. I still do. Oh yeah, also actor's names, I try not to learn them.

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