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[–] 190 points 9 months ago (13 children)

There are at least 3 white people here. This fuckhead just doesn't see it because they're dressed differently then they think white people dress.

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  • [–] 138 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    I was gonna say some of these people look pretty white to me. But then we're getting into the arbitrary question of who counts as white which is probably way beyond her understanding.

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  • [–] 93 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Part of being “white” is getting to decide who is “white.” This is only possible because “white” is a completely made up category. We shouldn’t even engage with the term.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Fair point but it's so deeply rooted. Don't we have to engage with it to some extent in order to eliminate it?

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I’ll just let my comment above stand as an example of how I think it should be engaged with. You can recognize that it’s a fantasy people have without participating in the fantasy.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    It’s true that white is a made up term made to justify owning slaves and on that front it’s a meaningless way to group many different ethnicities. On the other hand as a white person I have to acknowledge that I am lumped in that group. I have privileges, and responsibilities because of it and there are social groups and spaces that are not for me. I can’t absolve myself of being white by saying white isn’t real.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I agree. It’s not about absolution. It’s about breaking down a culturally constructed instrument of oppression by refusing to participate in it. I can’t tell the world to stop treating me better because they think I’m white, which I believe is part of your point. But we do what we can, when we can, with knowledge of what we can and can’t.

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  • [–] 50 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    As a Latino I grew up watching movies with nothing but white people on screen. But I’m not a crying like bitch like MAGA

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  • [–] 95 points 9 months ago (19 children)

    Aren't most of those people white?

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  • [–] 57 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, but I imagine the original poster was thinking Aryan white.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The US has a very weird take on race.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Oh but they meant pale white northern european locked inside without sun the whole day not slightly tan white people

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Americans apparently have a very learned eye to distinguish who's white or not.

    Had a bizarre interaction in Texas once where I couldn't tell an entire staff was Mexican? My bad. Hijinx ensued. Owner was on the hook for my meal/drinks.

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I'm Canadian.

    I was visiting a friend in Texas in 2015. They were out for the day so I was just kinda wandering around in the afternoon.

    Found myself belly up to a bar, chit chatting with the bartenders. Shooting the shit, having a great time. Trump came on the TV and I commented what a knob he was.

    The bartender said something somber, like "Yeah if he wins, we all are gonna have to go home"

    I sincerely didn't understand why. I was like "What... he's going to close the bars??" The guy was like "No... we will have to go home"

    Again, I was like "what the fuck are you talking about"

    Buddy looks at me like I'm from outer space. I look at him the same way.

    He just slowly says "We're... all... Mexican". The whole body of staff is gravitating towards the unfolding scene.

    "How the hell was I supposed to know that?" I asked. He was like "Isn't it obvious?". No? Like they had dark hair. Is everyone with dark hair Mexican?

    He was like "did you walk by any construction sites today?". Yes, I had. "Think back, did the foreman look different than everyone else?". Now that is really thought back... yeah. He was like, ginger.

    At this point, like 10 of the staff are watching me come to the realization, in real time, that I've been surrounded by Mexicans like the whole day and no part of my brain registered it.

    I don't even really remember exactly what I said next... but it would have been along the lines of "I'm from Canada. My brain isn't even wired to distinguish a Mexican from anyone else." I'm really confused. I'm basically apologizing.

    At that point they just burst out laughing. Basically surrounded at this point. They poured me a shot. Then another. They told me my bill was covered. We kept shooting the shit for a few more hours. They kept teasing me for not being able to recognize a Mexican. A relatively famous band was playing there later that night, and they snuck me back to listen to them warming up.

    To this day, I still don't really understand how Americans can distinguish Mexicans. It must be a learned "skill". It was pretty eye opening talking to them... the fatigue of being treated as "lesser"... even "distinct". We had a good time.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Ah I posted it but under my own comment like an idiot.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    You're not an idiot and that story is hilarious. Thanks for sharing it!

    If it makes you feel any better, not all Latinos are Mexican, and even Mexicans can't accurately recognize other Mexicans. I'm descended from Sicilians, so I'm seasonally dark and my dad was dark AF*. When we lived in California, we were regularly spoken to in Spanish by Mexicans and other Latinos who were surprised that we didn't speak Spanish and in fact were the whitest dark people they had ever met.

    *Fun Fact: my paternal grandfather was an asshole and as racist as he was dark (very). Jokes on him - I got my whole genome sequenced and we have a ton of gene variations strongly correlated with African populations. I'm around 25% African by gene frequency distribution, about 10% North and about 15% sub-Saharan African. I'm at least 15% "black". Hah! Fuck you, Grandpa!

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago

    When I was growing up, a gay kid in a rural setting living in near-poverty and surrounded by constant and extreme homophobic rhetoric, there basically was no open or obvious (to me) gay representation in my little slice of the world. I literally spent ages 10 - 17 thinking I was some alien creature, the one and only. While I knew other gay men existed somewhere out there, it was clear to me that they all lived in giant cities, went around wearing dresses, tried to kidnap little kids to turn them gay, nagged straight men and children for sex, and spread HIV/AIDS.

    Truly sorry for the underrepresented heterosexual, Caucasian, Christian, English-only speaking children out there in the USA and their parents and really everybody else going through this affront to their existence. I totally and completely understand how you feel.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Such nonsense. I'm sure Bad Bunny searched long and hard to find as many white people capable of dancing as he could. It's not his fault we suck at it.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 9 months ago (4 children)
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    As a cat owner, I look at that and start estimating how close the nearest paper towels are even though I already know it's too late.

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  • [–] 49 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I don't know, this guy looks pretty white...

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  • [–] [S] 40 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    He's not leaving much room for Jesus... and with an adult woman. A conservative's worst nightmare.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Jesus does it from behind.

    Brings a whole new meaning to “Christ on a cracker “

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    i dunno, jesus seemed like a bottom to me. he did tell satan to get behind him.

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  • [–] 45 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Didn't some white lady sing, too in the middle somewhere? 😉

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  • [–] [S] 39 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    That lady being Lady Gaga. Yes, yes she did.

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    She is Italian, right? Does that qualify as white? Depends who/when you ask.

    Personally I'm all for erasing the white identity. Its a fucking lie. My grandparents and great grandparents etc were Norwegian, Italian, Scottish. They did not consider themselves white.

    If one wants to make an argument about an American melting pot identity, blending these cultures together to something new, you are lying to yourself if you try to exclude the massive influence non-'white' cultures had and continue to have on that shared cultural identity.

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  • [–] 63 points 9 months ago* (10 children)

    Anglo-Saxons quite literally erased the locals when they came to America, this is just a musical performance with some of their descendants. 🙄

    I'm telling you, if they had anything more than their physical features as common ground, anything with depth as a shared ideology, and even the most rudimentary of moral frameworks, they wouldn't be this way.

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  • [–] [S] 39 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    If you listen to her, you’d think Bad Bunny was giving out smallpox blankets to all the white people at the Super Bowl.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Ooh, that would work really well nowadays with all the antivaxxers! New idea, pass out blankets at Trump rallies!

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Not smallpox please, a lot of innocent people aren't vaccinated against it since it was eradicated. I am because I'm an old fart, but I don't want MAGA people my age and above being the ones NOT affected. Besides you'd have to break into the CDC, or just convince Kennedy it'd be good for folks'immune systems or something.

    Measles is already working on the problem all by itself.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately, gotta hard disagree here. The big problem is that this particular in-group does have a shared ideology and moral framework. The problem is that it's Nazi ideology.

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  • I don't think there's anything of substance there besides fear, confusion and anger, and none of these things require words or thoughts. I mean, let's be real, none of these folks have read Mein Kampf... these people don't read, lol. The one thing I'd say they have in common is that they have defaulted into the bestial "might makes right"/law of the jungle stance, which is not an ideology but the absence of one that contains/redirects your urges.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

    You're telling me that guy at the very back of the truck bed isn't white? I have a darker tan than that guy and I'm white as Wonderbread (German/Irish/Danish heritage).

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    There are multiple white folks in the photo... Even right in the center of the photo

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Latino isn't a skin color, and some of them are white. In Europe, almost no one questions the whiteness of the Spanish and Portugese.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I think most people nowadays mean Latin Americans with Lationos. Otherwise you'd also have to throw in the Italians, the French, the Romanians, half of the Belgians and bunch of Africans.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago

    She hasn't shut the fuck up yet because her user hasn't run out of response tokens.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    Poor Puerto Ricans. Considered both American and not American at the same time.

    Also, does Morgan not consider Ricky Martin as white? He appeared on the show!

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Let's not forget that they are subject to taxes yet lack any representation.

    I'm pretty sure I remember a country that was pretty pissed off about that in the past...

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    They are not subject to Federal taxes (except FICA if you count that but they receive those benefits), which is just one of the reasons statehood polls in Puerto Rico tend to be relatively divided.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Any time you see this culture war nonsense, just remember, this is what Donald wants you talking about instead of the Epstein Files.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Any time you see this Epstein file nonsense, just remember, this is what Donald wants you talking about instead of their complete dismantling of democracy and its replacement with billionaire oligarchy. Also, just for laughs, their stated goal of reducing the US population by two-thirds.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    Doesnt matter what we talk about. The circus goes on anyway.

    You can talk about epstein files all you want, but you are actually wasting your time. The only way to win is not to play, if you have heard that term. It applies to the circus.

    But people want to discuss the latest political news, I know. Tomorrow its something else the orange man said. New circus every day.

    Because its an attention economy and they profit from you reading the articles. :)

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    they profit of catastophe. the climate crisis, mass "deportations", a global system of child rape. all of it is at the same time a distraction and something you should be working in your community to address through means other than the ones the oppressors offer you

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Many Puerto Ricans are white. I've known many people over the years who are blonde hair, blue eyes, or green eyed gingers with freckles, but are as Puerto Rican as they come. Ask your local MAGA turd if they can explain why that might be.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 9 months ago

    My half Cuban half Colombian best friend is white as snow with blonde hair and blue eyes. When she starts speaking fluent Spanish, people look twice.

    She actually had to threaten a lawsuit because she was discriminated at work because of being Latina. No one knew until she spoke Spanish and then her manager started treating her differently.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago

    The guy on top and at the back of the truck look pretty white.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    Native American here: fuck you Morgan.

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  • My kids sometimes get pissed when you show someone else attention and they desire it.

    This has nothing to do with anything, just thought I'd mention it.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    I've met leather skinned Floridian Caucasians who were darker than most of these people.

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