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[–] 134 points 9 months ago (16 children)

What does it say about women speaking again?

I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    Paul probably didn't write that paragraph of verses. It was most likely added by someone else along the way.

    To your point of people wanting to take only portions of the Bible literally and ignore others, there are TONS of things that the old testament says to do that we don't do every day.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Christians on old testament laws:

    • prohibition on eating pork: god actually didn't mean we should stop eating pork. It was an accident bro.

    • prohibition on vaguely sexual acts without clear translation: this is the word of god, how dare these people exist

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not defending Christianity, but the actual defense of pork is that Jesus had made pork clean, in a vision to Peter where the analogy was that Jesus also made non Jewish people clean, since mixing with them was also forbidden. So less accident, more amendment.

    They would also claim (from my experience in a cult anyway) that the old laws were necessary at the time they were given, but by the time Jesus came he could revise them as they were more ready.

    If we look at it from a secular viewpoint, badly cooked pork probably caused a bunch of illness to was banned, and by the time Jesus supposedly existed people had learned to cook it more safely.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Nah, I can see Paul saying that, I just cannot see Jesus (who was openly kissing women like men kissed men and basically publicly recognising them as equals! The horror, lol) saying that. 🤷

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Would you mind telling me which verse tells us jesus kissed women in greeting?

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Nowhere, actually, I must have hallucinated it (?!). Perhaps in some apocryphal gospel? Religious fiction? Sorry for spreading misinformation, I really thought I read it.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Pfffffnthe first friggin disciple was Mary

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    and the first witness of the risen jesus. paul can go get some ribs removed

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Paul never even met Jesus. He had a vision that Jesus wanted him to be a disciple.

    Try having a vision that you are a billionaire CEO of some big Wall Street company and see how far that will take you?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    I feel like if I put enough production value into it I could get a following that goes for it.

    Kinda like how people think Elon is a genius not because of anything he did but because people paid to say he was one said he was one

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  • [–] 53 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Equally controversial fact:

    I am not obliged by law or morality to follow what is written in your fucking book either way.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    My version: I don't fucking care what your dumb book says.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I used to always reply with "i'm Jewish". They gear clashed like fucking crazy. It was hilarious.

    Now i'm done even vaguely entertaining these shitheels

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    i used to use "i'm pagan" and watch the sparks fly but that's gonna get me killed one of these days

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'm kinda blunt, and gigantic. I tell anyone trying to lecture me about religion that I'm member of the satanic temple. Which isn't a complete lie as I do donate monthly to my local one.

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  • [–] 50 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    Didn't Mary and Joseph live together before they were married?

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (10 children)

    No, they just had a baby in a cave together and claimed it was a virgin birth.

    Seriously though, I thought they were married?

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

    They get married at some point after jesus is conceived, and have other children (opinion varies, catholics maintain that Mary remained a virgin)

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    have other children...catholics maintain that Mary remained a virgin

    Joe be like "You're pregnant AGAIN! And I suppose GOD is the father AGAIN, right?" {Walks away, muttering angrily "...while I'm getting NOTHING..."}

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Did you think Mary and god were married before today?

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Did God marry Mary, before he knocked her up?

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    No, but in his defense, neither did he live with her.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Thou shalt boof but not before 3 days after the sabbath. So it is written

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago

    Every time I hear the word bible and fact in the same sentence the church bells start ringing in my head.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Outside the Ten Commandments (supposedly), the Bible was written entirely by fallible humans - these assholes keep forgetting that part & act like it's 100% perfect (which we know it's not simply by its own self-contradictions).

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    It is also important to not forget about how the Bible was formed.

    What we know as the Bible is a collection of books, selected by a committee during a conclave centuries ago.

    Any decision made by humans in power and influence will inevitably be favoring their own goals and politics.

    There are plenty of other Christian texts that were excluded, how would they have changed Christianity if they were included?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Also an awful lot of it is about being submissive and letting people take advantage of you. At least based off what I see getting quoted all the time. Weird how it's always people who're trying to control you quoting it.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    They left out the good shit. The Apocalypse of Peter preaching universal salvation and the Enoch books with all the cool stuff in them.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    The Gospel of Thomas has stories of Jesus being a little shithead as a kid, performing miracles just to freak everybody out. He even killed a kid once, but brought him back to life when the whole neighborhood got pissed and threatened to kick Joe's ass.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Excuse me but old baldy Elisha successfully cast summon shebear swarm and I posit any being able to summon and command not just a shebear but a swarm of shebears just might be infallible

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    That's a screenplay right there.

    A whole movie about a woman who commands a gang of angry she-bears? Oh, yeah, I'd watch that.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    There are so many books. It is strange that this one gets so much attention.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Society changed a lot since Biblical times. They didn't "live together" in the same house, but these people certainly "lived together" in the same street or village before getting married. People didn't really have a lot of "home life" like we do now, they'd be out in the fields, or cooking in front of their home. So they'd see each other's home life and it's more "getting a house for themselves" than a big change in privacy or contact hours.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    she cracks me up. hilarious skit work.

    Stanzi

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    What should be controversial is pretending a goat shepherds religious book from the bronze age should have any kind of authority in the 21st century.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Stanzi is fucking hilarious.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I can't read

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  • The Bible is very contradictory because it's a collection of books written throughout millennia, usually with prophets saying A and judges and scholars saying B (and people usually following B).

    And I see Stanzi is on her Madonna-styled Trinitarian rebellion, lol. I love her content, hopefully she's not doing too many bumps!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    The biblical definition of marriage is 1 Man 1 Harem

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