Windows 11 doesn't actually need the tpm. They just check: "oh it's Intel 6th gen, it's trash from the last decade, sorry incompatible ewaste, buy a new one"

Intel 6th gen + tpm chip = still "incompatible"

Their marketing told us the lie "it needs tpm and secure boot" but they actually check if it has introduced to the market after 2018 or not

In those units the scammer patched the install image to install without the check. Who buys this will get a surprise when in the next months the next update comes out and refuse to install (25h1?)

I've formatted and installed W11 on dozens of computers and never had it fail once. My gaming rig is an Optiplex from 2014, runs 11 just fine.

They dont officially support windows 11 and the avg users are not going to know any better. It's a grey area scam. They're not worth $400 at all.

But 1000% not waste to a tech person. My oldest machines right now we're decommissioned workstations with 8th gen i5s that I used for seedbox, DNS/pihole, proxmox, etc. they won't get windows installed and I'll drive them til they literally die. Backed up with veaam to a second truenas, easily swapped out and back up and running with any failure. I love older tech because it's cheap and as long as you know what you're doing, it works well.

Same. Should be rock bottom prices.

Aa of July 1st we're closer to 2050 than 2000

Edit: 2020 -> 2000, derp

I dont think the people buying these even know what linux is.

soon™️

OpenBSD too

and also Thinkpads?

I used to have that CPU, but found it absolutely dying on it's arse for VR Chat (which is notoriously badly optimised). I got a i5-8400 instead, which is about twice as fast for single threaded work (which is still the main bottleneck for most games). Your overclock would take it a decent amount of the way there, but most people aren't going to do that, and it was getting a bit iffy even when I replaced it. Runs hot as well, I expect.

Since then they've got about twice as fast again. You don't have to spend a lot on them to get that either. A Ryzen 9600X will have me set for the next 15 years (assuming they don't ditch x86 CPUs altogether). AMD being competitive again has down wonders for performance boosts. Motherboards seem a lot more expensive these days though.

Yeah no, calling cap on that.

It'll run most indies and triple A game from 6-7y ago.

It'll be a real bottle neck for recent games. And especially for the only game that truly matters, rimworld.

I am running an n150 on a secondary mini pc. On paper it's twice as fast as your cpu. It drives me crazy how slow it can be at times when running multiple tabs or apps at the same time. You're delusional if you think your cpu is still up to snuff in 2025

Serious question, why haven't you upgraded to an i7 yet? They'd have to be super cheap at this point, right?

Generally agree but also consider power usage. Of course it also depends how often its powered on or not. If its used a lot then buying newer hardware may well be cheaper just in the energy saved, though if its off most of the time then its less of a concern.

I had a very similar PC. I think maybe slightly better. I ended up upgrading because the CPU was becoming more and more of a bottleneck. The roar was Elden Ring. The fps wouldn't go past about 20. Also some gaves are now being compiled against x64 v3 instructions (like Hell Divers 2 and Death Stranding) which there's literally no way of running on an old CPU since it doesn't have the instructions for it.

I dont think that GPU could handle any game in the past 5-10 years though. So 90% of games doesn't seem right.

I just got an N150 Mini PC for about that. Should be decent as a Jellyfin server.

I thought they recently changed windows 11 to require an 11th gen or higher

Yeah, those are basically Mini PC prices. The CPU alone used to cost more than that.

The specs look perfectly adequate (I'm still running very similar for daily use), and 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM should keep you going no matter how many tabs you open or how bloated your PC gets.

Personally I'd get a new Ryzen Mini PC for that kind of money just for the form factor, but they're hardly a scam. The main issue is that the crowd this is aimed at have very little use for a PC these days.

Oh nooooo, however will I do the needful without Microsoft's world famous blue ribbon customer support.