And from the glowing reviews it's clear that

  1. W11 doesn't actually need a new PC to run and the limitations are completely artificial

  2. For many people, a ten years old PC is fast enough (or even faster than a brand new Intel N100 PC that is officially W11 compatible). They won't even notice that's something from 2015, as long it has a shiny new case, enough RAM and SSD

  3. Amazon doesn't care that the PC comes with pirated software, or that someone is scamming their customers, as long they get their 15% cut from marketplace sales (the cost of a genuine license of W11 pro and office exceeds the price of those ewaste specials)

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[–] 59 points 1 year ago (19 children)

It's not actually eWaste you can buy a TPM chip for it, or ya know Linux.

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  • [–] [S] 60 points 1 year ago* (14 children)

    Windows 11 doesn't actually need the tpm. They just check: "oh it's Intel 6th gen, it's trash from the last decade, sorry incompatible ewaste, buy a new one"

    Intel 6th gen + tpm chip = still "incompatible"

    Their marketing told us the lie "it needs tpm and secure boot" but they actually check if it has introduced to the market after 2018 or not

    In those units the scammer patched the install image to install without the check. Who buys this will get a surprise when in the next months the next update comes out and refuse to install (25h1?)

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Yes it does need a tpm

    Anything else isn't supported by Microsoft. You really don't want to screw around since you need security updates from Microsoft.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ok read the documentation: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-24h2-supported-intel-processors

    Where does it say that you can use a 6th gen Intel CPU if you install a tpm chip?

    The tpm is definitely not used as you can install it on a supported system, then go to the bios, disable secure boot and tpm and it still works (if the automatic "ransomware" bitlocker encryption didn't start)

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  • [+] -42 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Just block W11 updates entirely.

    https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-8/

    It's mostly bullshit that one absolutely needs the latest Windows updates; if you use uBlock Origin in your browser and don't download/run random .EXE/.MSI shit from the internet you'll be fine. Keep Windows Defender up to date once a month just in case as well.

    But really the best option is to switch to Linux.

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  • [–] 79 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah... No. Update your software.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This.

    Also, upgrade to Linux.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    There is a lot of misinformation regarding the security of older OSes.

    There are some people online fabricating videos of older Windows (moslty XP and 7) "getting hacked in 5 minutes by idling", with one of these videos even clearly having a web browser open in the taskbar with the title "virus download". And when it is pointed out that this doesn't happen, they get defensive that it will if you are raw connected to the internet. But pretty much everyone owns a modern router that would block direct connections by default, and most ISPs gift one even.

    I have a Windows Vista VM that I use to play period correct and older games, even online. ClamWin is installed, OS is fully updated via LegacyUpdate and a modern browser (r3dfox) is used. There is nothing wrong with it despite hours of use, and I can keep playing with the huge nostalgia bonus of having the VMWare graphics overhead match pretty spot on the performance of a mid-range PC of the time on my hardware.

    I will never let go of the 2010s

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    Thank you.

    If you've ensured your home network's firewall is sane first, there's no big issue.

    If you dual-boot to Windows occasionally to run that one stupid program that can't run under Linux, and you aren't downloading stuff willy-nilly from the wild internet, and you haven't previously installed all sorts of dodgy call-home programs, you can still be safe running while you're in Windows. Hell, I have a Windows 7 box that runs just fine from my home network to the internet, thankyouverymuch. I even download stuff from there gasp, but I check the files first! Imagine that.

    Most people aren't knowledgeable enough to maintain proper security however so I guess I should just stop commenting on posts like this, as I always get flak from people stating it's impossible to run an OS more than 2 weeks old on the Internet without being instantly hacked :p.

    But still... as others say, I totally agree -- move to Linux if you can.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I've formatted and installed W11 on dozens of computers and never had it fail once. My gaming rig is an Optiplex from 2014, runs 11 just fine.

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