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[–] 159 points 9 months ago (45 children)

And here's where we introduce you to this magical term called full disk encryption!

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  • [–] 110 points 9 months ago (24 children)

    And if you use BitLocker, do NOT backup your recovery key to the cloud!

    https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-reportedly-turned-over-bitlocker-encryption-keys-to-the-fbi-2000713550

    Print out out, give it to a friend, don't mention it via electronic means (email, text, Snapchat, YouTube, and so on...)

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  • [–] 61 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    And if you use BitLocker, don't!

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    What is a better windows alternative?

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    Even better is to memorize it.

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  • [–] 48 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    Hide it in a poem in a leather bound book at the end of a trap-filled dungeon.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Now when you say a trap-filled dungeon. What exactly do you mean?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    nothing incriminating, your honour, just some harmless pranks such as water buckets above the doors.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I don’t think that’s the kind of trap they were alluding to…

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Hide it in a book in a buried chest on a minecraft world 5000 blocks from spawn.

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  • [+] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I stole from someone else that hid the urls of porn sites in a chest when he was a kid. Think it was pretty old, probably on Reddit, learned about it maybe 2 years ago. I don't know anything about encryption or protecting sensitive information, certainly not of this nature, but it could potentially work. Would be quite a few chests full if anon is doing something with a lot of intricate details.

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    This person should also turn off their computer and remove the RAM so it's zeroed out if it gets siezed.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    This is where I think NFC may finally be useful. If cops show up, I slide my phone by a hidden NFC tag, and an http request is sent to my desktop machine. Everything incriminating is wiped and the computer is turned off, before the cops can walk to the room.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Unless you have tied the NFC to an arc wielding torch how would proper data disposal process runs its course fast enough? You live in a manor with very long hallways?

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Most of really nasty data is text or a few questionable apps, and should take very little time. Video and audio present a problem, but I think they can be speedily wiped by nuking the metadata parts, making recovery and identification difficult. Not sure how resilient modern formats are to data loss, but afaik e.g. AVI is quite reliant on the description of the stream (which iirc is inconveniently placed at the end of the file).

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Nha my dude you’re lying to yourself if you think that it is nearly enough to survive the level of forensics that will happen in case of a motivated investigation. You need the whole multipass erasure and overwriting or you’re toast. It takes hours…

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    First of all, it doesn't take hours to overwrite several text files and a few binaries. Second of all, I think I know better what my local cops would do. It's not NSA or Interpol. Lastly, this hypothetical obviously excludes stuff after which 'motivated investigation' might come. That kind of data lives in encrypted files tucked in odd places, and even that can probably be wiped from the directory entry like it was never there.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Erh well, it takes hours with proper tooling with which I have first hand experience… and just as much experience with various police forces… admittedly my knowledge is limited to Europe and LA on that topic.

    For reference I saw them deploy very serious means for stuff from csam to piracy so be careful on how you perceive their willing to be major annoyances.

    But hey, this is my work experience I offer, you don’t take it it’s not an issue; I’m not invoicing my time anyway :)

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Around here, cops are nasty but not very brainy, hi-tek, or invested. They will be annoying in more brute ways. The goal is just to not give them too much material to go off, so they find someone else who's easier to pester.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Better to have a "spare" pc under your desk, with the real one hidden.

    Cheaper and you won't accidentally wipe your pc all the time.

    But what are you all having on up your PCs??

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Where I am, having a networked machine cemented up in the wall is the national pastime, for when a bunch of masked policemen show up with automatic rifles. As for what's on that machine, that's another national sport because no one is paying for those bastards to harass businesses.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    As with many other suggestions made here, if it can be demonstrated in court that you had a system like this set up, it's going to be a really bad look for you.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    You see, I'm one of those mysterious creatures who live in the lands outside the US. I know it's gonna be a shock, but we do exist.

    As I already explained in the thread, where I am, the goal is to not give cops any material to work with, so they find someone else to harass. All the really serious data is hidden better than this.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    If it can be proven you did that, that's gonna look real bad in court.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    If it's proven that you did it, you are getting locked up anyway.

    In 99% it is better to not say anything or indict yourself

    Edit: ah, misunderstood you, with "did that" you mean turn off the computer, not whatever crime you are accused of. I'd still disagree, but only based on anecdotes, go ask a lawyer, I guess

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)
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    Yeah, refusing a warrant is definitely a separate crime from whatever they're looking for on the computer. If something like this happens, the only way to protect yourself from a warrant is to fully delete everything on your computer. They can't arrest you for not handing over something that doesn't exist. The cops know this though, which is why they probably wouldn't give you that kind of warning without having a warrant ready to go, which is because this story is fake.

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  • [–] 114 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

    They already showed their cards so they'll not come back with a warrant. This is more about intimidation than anything else.

    I've had the same thing happen to me. "Can we search your house? It will help you if you have nothing to hide". Fuck off cunts. They didn't try again.

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  • [–] 53 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    “Can we search your house? It will only help you if you have nothing to hide”.

    Help me how, to get arrested faster? lmao

    "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" remains at the top of my list of bullshit lines of "reasoning" I've ever heard in my entire life.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I removed the "only" from my text because it was a bit ambiguous.

    But yes it was exactly that. It's like they consider themselves to be the law. "You're either with me or against me". Typical BS.

    It's mostly cops that think they have something to prove and try to do stuff by themselves.

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  • [–] 39 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Pretty much.

    If OP had something incriminating, they would already have the paperwork they need to grab it.

    Police knocking on your door is hoping you would give them information to arrest you. Proper swat team breaking down your door means they already had it.

    ICE doesn't count. They're not cops.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago*

    Adding onto this one:

    I suspect they are searching your trash. They roll up to your house, tell you there's a bunch of "suspicious" shit tied to your address, IP, a cell ping in the area, whatever. The point is to scare the shit out of you in the hopes that you trash any "incriminating" property.

    Then they search your trash (which does not require a warrant, let alone notice), find your shit, and then come back to arrest you.

    The point here is fuck them. They didn't bother to create a warrant, so they dont get to complain when you decide to upgrade your PC, slag the old drives, then keep them on your coffee table as conversation starters. If they had a warrant, that would be different. They dont.

    Don't let them scare you stupid. Continue on as normal. Maybe invest in a different ISP because some like to snitch.

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  • [–] 111 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Fake: cops obeying the law and following due process? Really?

    Gay: Anon clearly took “be gay, do crimes” seriously… too bad he didn’t take his opsec as seriously…

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  • [–] 71 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    congrats for torrenting the latest disney movie off their honeypot

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  • [–] 56 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    On one hand, I loathe pedophiles and the awful black market that they use to trade whatever

    On other hand, I wonder how often the "law" just uses this to get rid of people who displease them, they just install the appropriate stash with a thumb drive while "scanning".

    Decades in prison, asset forfeiture, who would stop them or even be able to prove it? The modern equivalent of planting drugs (which they are caught doing frequently already), and nobody wants to defend pedophiles.

    Worst case scenario for them? The taxpayers pay for a lawsuit settlement and they might get paid leave for six months

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, but why bother? They can just turn off the body camera and shoot them in self defense. Same outcome and way less work.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Making a martyr vs discrediting everything someone has ever done, and turning their family/friends/everyone against them and their ideology.

    Hmm...

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    They do that already (gun them down), but they can't kill too many people! It's like they have a murder quota.

    So, for the rest they plant evidence on, drugs and this.

    Also, many of them are sadists and prefer the torture route (like 40 years in prison).

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    Step 1: Back up important files
    Step 2: boot from live Linux USB
    Step 3: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/nvmeX && dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/nvmeX Repeat as many times as you wish

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Use a live Linux ISO that can run entirely in memory, and run step 3 in an infinite loop. Take the USB with you and leave the PC running.

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    Write random data in the drive over and over again, with one or two pass there are some sophisticated techniques that can get some sliver of data out if the random. But with 3 4 passes and more it's statistically unlikely they can recover anything.

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    [–] 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    What did anon even do to be on the radar, this is just not credible. They would never show up for a chat if that was the case, they would collect evidence quietly.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    So if there is anything on your computer, deleting it just destroys the file directory to it, they can find it still, you have to delete everything, then rewrite over it with new information.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    Drills, big magnets, hammers etc… work too

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Big magnets will only pull the arm off the plates and leave the data intact. Also why waste good hardware when all it needs is a couple of writes with all zeroes and ones?

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Feels like it's easier to just not have anything on your hard drive that's worth that much effort. I can only think of one type of file that would justify that level of obfuscation in most of the world, and I actually fully support owners of those files turning their PCs over to the police unmolested, so to speak

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    Really? Looking around America right now(or any other fascist nation for that matter) you can't think of a single other reason why someone might want to hide electronic communications to the extent of not being recoverable?

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Destroying the data on your hard drive only helps you if you think that files stored on it could incriminate you in court. ICE isn't sending your laptop in to a special forensics technician at DHS HQ to pull the 1s and 0s off of it to generate a justification for abducting and/or shooting you. Standard end to end encryption is plenty enough for online communications

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    ICE grunts are not the only threat of fascism.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Do you maybe want to try and converse? Instead of leaving a vague response hinting at a deeper perspective, how about you actually share that perspective? Who else do we have to fear at present, and how do you reckon rendering a file on your computer irrecoverable would protect you from them?

    By my reckoning, if you live under a government that would arrest you for excercizing speech, you're well beyond fucked by the time they seize your computer

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I recycle ewaste, and so I have boxes and boxes of old hard drives. My proc is single pass dban and then a 10mm hole drilled through the case and onto the platters.

    This is for normal business eol hardware that I get from offices and warehouses, nothing sketchy.

    If the client wants evidence of destruction before leaving premises, I skip DBAN and just drill the platters with a cordless drill.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago

    If there's not a thermite microcharge hovering above your crime drive are you even really posting? Ctrl-Super-M (for melt) and that sucker's a puddle

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Would it be possible to wipe some files off the PC without leaving any traces?

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, but there will be a trace that something was wiped if you use certain tools and didn't then fill that empty scrambled space with a bunch of games or something.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    I don't believe any local law enforcement, at least where I'm at, has a cyber crimes team capable of knowing this and pursuing it even if they did. Federal level? Sure. But if they're coming they already have warrants and you're fucked. Local doesn't invest money in stuff like that.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    Anon needs a bugout bag plan, which also would have him wipe his computer when he leaves. He needs to have some drills tho.

    But like other people said in the comments, it is not the smartest legal move.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago
    1. Hammer.
    2. "my computer just broke. Had to get a new one"
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