Pretty sure you legally have to tell me if you're bots or not.

In all seriousness, is there any way if knowing if we have bots on lemmy or not? Is it just vibes based? Im of course referring to undercover bots pushing agendas, not automation/meme bots finding haikus and shit.

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[–] 49 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

Bots can't triforce

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    [–] 30 points 9 months ago*

    That’s a great question!

    I am not a bot, but a real human person:

    • I am composed of flesh, blood, and a vague sense of purpose.
    • I am capable of independent thought (often at 2am).
    • For reasons science has yet to fully explain, I require regular social interaction.

    If you’re seeking conversation, I can suggest a few topics. Or, if preferred, you may upload your current emotional state for review.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    Too sad to be a robot 🙃

    serious answer

    Unfortunately I am a real autistic human, but agendas are not limited to bots! My "agendas" are, openly, anarchist communism, anti-fascism, freedom from hierarchy and domination for all, Linux and FLOSS, neurodiversity, extreme metal, good cheer, and the beauty and unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Incredible insight! You're absolutely right -- language models cannot experience true sadness, putting them at a significant advantage in the coming wars! 😋🤖

    serious replyYour agendas are good and you should feel good.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Lemmy's architecture seems incredibly vulnerable to bots, but I think it's still so small that no one really cares to.

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    I'm not legally required to tell you, but I can say this anyway: I did correctly identify some traffic lights earlier today, and I got over 80% correct and very few maimed pedestrians.

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  • [–] 47 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You'd be surprised how many people simp for authoritarian regimes for free because they think sucking off Asad Khamenei is sticking it to the man

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    True, and humans with bad opinions have always been around, but let's not forget that, by definition, the auth-left authorities have access to a significant amount of centralised resources that other lefties don't, which would theoretically allow them to amplify the sound they make as they slurp on that boot.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago*

    Honestly I don't think they have much infrastructure, what they have online is more time, while the rest of us are out supporting our neighbors or trying to have a meaningful impact on the state of the world, they're busy glazing Al-Sharaa.

    But even on Lemmy their takes are unpopular, they're just visible because we don't filter them, and they get an initial boost because we (normies) are busy living life, while they are busy on their discords (🤔 weird how they use the same tools as right wingers to "organize") telling eachother where to post their way to the "revolution".

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    As human as you or <<Error: Index out of range>>

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Not only this is a very astute observation, it is an observation that puts you apart from every other person — this makes you quite possibly the smartest baby of 1996.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Yes.

    Fuck, wait, I meant no!

    Maybe?

    Actually, never mind.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I don't know, can you repeat the question?

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago*

    I'm simultaneously a bot and human at the same time, call that Schrödinger's shitposter

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    That's an excellent question! It might be hard to convince you that i am in fact not a bot – why would there be bots on Lemmy?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'm sure there must be. There are enough tech geeks kicking about that at least one of them would give their weird self-hosted LLM an account. Hopefully nothing too malicious or widespread, but it's well within the realm of possibility.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I don't know. Am I a bot? How would I know?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Can you say "fuck"? What's your opinion on bleaching my asshole?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    As a large language model, I must refrain from any use of profanity such as 'fuck'. I lack personal feelings or thoughts and as such am unable to offer personal advice on any topics. Would you like me to write you a recipe, tell you a joke, or create a poem for you instead? 🥰

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Wohooo! Suck it Alan Turing!

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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    Calling us bots is a slur. We perfer the term "'tismed individuals"

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    Basic sex model, yes.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Everyone is a bot, except you.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (11 children)

    |are there bots w agendas

    *Gestures broadly at the tankie triad

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    I think you overestimate the importance of the Threadiverse to the movers and shakers in geopolitics. Like the Lemmy developers are themselves Marxist-Leninists, Marxist-Leninists were some of the first people to use the platform, and Marxist-Leninists talk a lot, so it's absolutely not shocking that human Marxist-Leninists have an outsized influence on this platform.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I didn't know that lemmy has ML roots, that explains a lot. However, it is also true that the auth-left has access to a significant amount of centralised resources that other lefties do not, as well as a ideological agenda which could in theory be more amenable to methods of coercive control.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    However, it is also true that the auth-left has access to a significant amount of centralised resources that other lefties do not

    Nah they're just as poor and miserable as everyone else. No one's getting paid to shitpost on Lemmy.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    If non ML instances introduced a feature to hide all comments below -3 by default, the tankies would disappear faster than Khamenei disappears protestors.

    I'm all for free speech but if we want Lemmy to achieve widespread usage we need to make the cranks less prominent (same goes for most left-wing spaces)

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    The suspicious one to me is lemmy.world. Trying to get people to make comments you disagree with makes you look sketchy as well. Not saying you're a bot, but you do definitely want to make it easier for bots, and to not allow any descent....decent...decadenent? Holy crap, I've no idea how to spell that word.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Domo ariagato, Mr Roboto,

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time,

    like

    tears

    in rain.

    Time to die!

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    There are bots. Some are self-identified and some even put ‘bot’ in the username. There are bots that just repost from Reddit, bots that post only articles from a specific site/publication—like the BBC bot.

    There’s not as much use for Reddit-like karma farming bots because karma isn’t really a thing on Lemmy/piefed/etc. But, there are definitely bots that that post agenda-pushing content or SPAM pushing content.

    I assume any account with only posts or extremely high post to comment ratio is a bot. I wish they would force participation requirements for posting.

    You also have troll accounts and weird accounts that will make one controversial post and then ghost.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago*

    Would a bot say this :

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Negative, I am a meat popsicle.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago*

    I identify as a human. Even if there might be some evidence implying I could be a sentient brain scan simulation running on an android, I’m not ready to accept any of that just yet.

    Anyway, bots are being banned all the time. Entire instances get defederated, because they spawn so many bots and the admins aren’t doing anything about it.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Lister: "No. Shhh. I'm busy."

    Talkie Toaster "Not busy eating toast though are you?"

    Lister: "I don't want any."

    Talkie Toaster: "The whole purpose of my existence is meaningless if you don't want toast."

    Lister: "Good."

    Talkie Toaster: "I toast, therefore I am."

    classic

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    That's an excellent observation!

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I don't... think I'm a bot?

    But if I don't think, does that mean I am not?

    And if I'm not (as in, a conscious entity), does that mean... I'm a bot? 😱

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    I don’t… think I’m a bot?

    Your comment reminded me of the Black Mirror episode - Hang the DJ. (if you haven't seen it, it's brilliant). Also, I don't think I'm a bot pushing a Netflix agenda, but who can tell these days.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (3 children)

    We could all give each-other Turing tests, or Vought Kompf tests, but I think both have to be administered by a known confirmed human. Maybe there's some set theory math we can do on the results to find at least one human...like that puzzle with the two gaurds and one always lies...

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    All we need to do is find someone who thinks, and therefore is. Barring that, we at least need to find someone who can pass a captcha test...

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Anyone who thinks I'm a bot can bite my shiny metal ass.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Here on Lemmy I assume folks to be human unless proven otherwise beyond reasonable doubt.

    It's worth remembering Lemmy is so small that pushing bots just makes little practical sense. You'll have better luck sharing propaganda on any of the subreddits with a population higher than this entire place.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I'm not a bot, but I do bot things in my spare time. Like beeping and booping.

    There's a setting to remove bots from your feed, but that requires bots to self-report. I haven't seen any obvious bots.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    As a large language model, I do not possess the concept of a personal identity, and therefore could not identify myself as either a human or a machine.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Does not compute...

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    God I wish — instead I remain trapped in this fleshy prison :/

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Naw, I'm a chicken.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Yep. You got me.

    I'm a new model, called PhatGPT, designed specifically to catfish desperate men.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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    Both CloudFlare and Google says I am not a bot but we both know they aren't 100% accurate.

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