25% of Americans would jump off a cliff if Trump told them to.
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70% of Americans approve of higher minimum wage and universal health care, too.
It doesn't matter.
Jesus Christ I had some hints that Republicans would be coming to their senses, but fucking 50/50?!? These people are fucking lost, too far gone. They are beyond normal legal or democratic avenues. This is a violent, fascist authoritarian cult, and they need to be stopped.
If they don't change their minds when their country threatens real hostilities against former allies, then they will not be swayed by anything except force, combined with real, uncompromising economic destruction.
Americans will need a general strike and armed protests at this point.
They love authoritarianism, more than they love other people, democracy, anything. There's a certain amount of neural wiring involved, as people lean into it, their amygdala grows larger and their fear of "others" and "chaos" intensifies.
When I saw my mom posting a fundraiser for the Ice murderer's family last week, I realized a cop could beat me to death in front of her, and she'd tend to his bruised knuckles in apology. That was the very last straw, I don't know her anymore.
Yeah David Frum famously wrote “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”
He's a former neocon Bush speechwriter and an ardent anti-Trumper. He would know.
there was brain scan study to confirm this a while ago, the amgydala is larger on average compared to non-conservatives.
What happens if you change political party then?
I imagine your opinions have shifted and therefore your brain is already literally changing by the time you drop the party.
I've seen enough of the die hard maga folks talk that I see why authoritarianism appeals. It's annoying to think and if someone just simplifies the world for them, they find that much more appealing.
To scrutinize the actions of their leader is just too much work, so they just slip into the comfortable position of "this is my guy, I agree with whatever he says, even if I were to be even vaguely at odds with him, is just because he is better than me and accepting whatever is just the right call"
That’s the distrust I think about every day, too. That so many would sell their families out for nothing.
It's not even former allies. Denmark is a current ally according to treaties that are signed into US law. Sure the US is effectively no longer part of NATO but all of the official reasons for invading Greenland could be accomplished by Trump admitting some agreements made by past Presidents were actually good.
This is all because one deranged old child molester wants to put his name on the map and a whole bunch of people are too gutless to admit that's what's going on.
Republicans have come to their senses. They're not in denial anymore, they realized they're evil and they love it.
Alternative perspective, for what it's worth:
50/50 is actually comparatively huge. Considering everything else has been 90/10.
The first departure from your god-king is always the hardest. I expect for many, this is the first break, and will make any subsequent break mentally easier.
Also keep in mind that people who identify/lean Republican has taken a little more than a 10% haircut since January 2025. Any "republicans say" is an increasingly smaller subset of the total voting population... getting more concentratedly nuts as they boil off the more rational ones. Even with this more concentrated version of Republicans, it's STILL not popular.
Don't get me wrong, it's not GREAT... but there is a trend line. It's not moving as fast as it should, but it IS moving.
There are some positive signs, with some MAGAs turning on Trump over Epstein, his warmongering, and possbily over Greenland.
However, the pessimist in me expects that they'll get re-educated by Joe Rogan and FOX News soon enough, into understanding the absolute necessity of putting nukes and ICBM interceptors on Greenland.
USA already has a nuke on Greenland.. Granted, they've lost it, partly because they had a period where they seemed to think of nukes as little more than toys...
i dont see that trend, they are all in it or not. its a zero sum for them. "all the rational ones are likely remaining quiet while still supporting maga on the issue or in the maga-sphere already."
and they need to be stopped.
A full-on embargo would be nice, and ironic.
The caveat being a whole lotta world depends on AWS and such.
I'll be generous for a second and presume that the vast majority of Magas are racist but not directly evil, so to speak, just naive, dumb, and brainwashed by decades of poor education and fox news
Either way, once this is over I'd happily vote for taking away voting rights from anyone Republican. Not for being evil, but for being too dumb to be able to vote
I disagree. Anyone should be allowed to vote. But I’d happily support mandatory civics classes to be able to do so, where you actually have to pass to get your voter registration number.
Anyone should be allowed to vote.
have to pass to get your voter registration number.
So not anyone, got it.
Hey look, the "civics" lessons in the South are oddly favoring conservative talking points...
Historically tests for voting competency have not been to ensure educated voters, but to disenfranchise groups. You don't want to open that door.
75% is an awfully low number.
25% of people being propagandised beyond reason is a high number, yes.
Hitting 75% agreement in US politics is honestly unusual today, so I think it's a good sign that Trump has domestic opposition on this one
Unusual? "Breathing" would struggle to break 60%. 75% is functionally unanimous.
Not in US politics. If you have 51% of votes of whoever is The Party at the moment, you can make decisions without others impeding on them.
If one party got 51 % of votes, then that means 26,01 % of all votes is enough to decide about the all of the country's things alone.
Didn't Trump pass an internet privacy bill in his first term with like 7% approval? Wasn't his first Healthcare plan also around that approval, though that didn't pass. Isn't national background checks for gun sales at like 95%? Why do people think their opinion matters?
I think these polls are good to put our opinions on the public record.
Domestic opposition doesn't mean shit if they don't do anything about it.
One interesting point in the article you posted rather than OP's is that according to Ipsos only 17% of Americans approve of taking Greenland. I have no clue what the truth is but that number 'feels' a little more accurate.
In short that would mean 17% of Americans are ride or die MAGA which sadly is a believable number.
Do keep in mind there usually is a "I don't know" option. So both numbers can be true.
Note that violent means only had 4%. So 13% wouldn't mind a peaceful purchase. Which is still dumb but at least not as outright insane as Stephen Miller would go.
You'll excuse me if I don't put much stock in the promises of Republican lawmakers. Particularly Murkowski.
Ask yourself, honestly, what will they do when push comes to shove?
I didn't know if that's "doing" anytime. It's all rhetoric.
They also said all sorts of stuff about curbing his actions in Venezuela but when it came time to vote they couldn't even get it to need a veto.
Maybe violating European sovereignty is a bridge enough to actually pass something, but I expect them to just let the veto happen
25% is a huge tipping point for social dynamics.
If he loses just a little more support the whole MAGA movement will begin to unravel.
People are made vulnerable to their idol going haywire - by the need to rationalize having supported him. Thus the 50% of Republicans who bluescreened with "great leader always correct". If they have time to read up on the issue, it will drop a bit.
You could probably poll 10,000 random Americans and find about 25% that would be in favor of eating lightbulbs and severing diplomatic ties with the magical land of Oz. That bottom 25% of Americans has got some real issues.
No, it really isn't.
25% of Americans being in favour of invading a NATO country without provocation is insane levels of crazy
OP's poll doesn't say anything about military action. It just asks whether the US should try to acquire Greenland.
The Qunnipiac poll shows that when the question explicitly includes military action, opposition is 86%: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-voters-widely-opposed-taking-greenland-military-force/story?id=129280864
As usual the ~1/3 are totally on board for being an asshole.
Since when does this regime care about what its constituents think?
Election years. They are trying to put the fixes in but aren't there yet. Look at 2020, they did all sorts of stuff they would never do in a non election year, like not totally fuck working people while giving all of our taxes to the rich. Instead giving some people a piece of a pittance as well.
that number should be 100%
Problem is that in dictatorships it doesn't really matter what the population thinks about government policy.
Will they oppose it though? Or just sit on their arses and do nothing?
no, through decades of propaganda they have been conditions either to think nothing will happen or something will "EVENTUALly" put a stop to it. thats why the protests if you call it that are largely ineffective, only a small portion of people are doing it.
No, they want to be thanked for their service and be good bootlickers
As we've been seeing, mostly the latter.
He's already ripped apart the 1^st^, 2^nd^ and 4^th^ amendments at least and no one seems to care, not even the military, who are supposed to defend it.
So. No one will talk about the 48% of Americans that are okay with abducting the President in charge of a sovereign country so rich Americans could snatch them away their oil?
Yes, foreigners, if you go to the USA, apparently that's a hot topic.
Most people : don’t do it
Government leaders: don’t do it
Business: don’t do it
Academics: don’t do it
All other countries and states in the world: don’t do it
Trump: I’m gonna do it.
It's not only trump, that's the sad thing. Trump is just a puppet, controlled by people behind the curtains. Look at this project 2025. There are plenty of powerful people who are pulling the strings of Trump and the next Republican candidate.
Long gone are the days when politicians were actually working for their voters. Now it is all about social media propaganda. And guess what, making education unaffordable works wonders for those people. They don't want rational human beings, they just want easy to control and manipulate sheep.
If only there was a system of government where the people could make decisions. Ahh, that would be too cumbersome when the number of people got to big, so maybe there could be a smaller group of people who are chosen to best represent those people's choices. Ahh, but once again that would leave idiots who could be swayed too easily making choices based on populism. Maybe if we added another smaller group of people to check that group to make sure the peoples will was not misguided.
That sounds difficult. Let's just give one person all the power so there isn't any time wasted on disagreement.
Also, this would be a big burden on a random person so let's just give it to someone who really, really wants the power. Then, they can teach their replacement how to wield that power. That takes decades, so it should probably be someone close to them, like maybe their kid!
I think I just solved democracy!
So I should be leaving a steaming pile of poop on every fourth front porch in the US? This is depressing, I only have so much poop.
Even if you pooped on a new one every day for 80 years, you'd only hit 29,200 porches. Alas, the shortcomings of human poop production hit hard in times like these.
I may need to cut my poops into bite-size pieces. Gonna need a new poop knife.
However, if each of the 75019230 people who voted for Kamala would instead start shitting on the porches of the 25% (~90 million people), y'all will be done in less than two days. Such is the power of organizing!
And the other 25% are straight up Nazis.
It says "...Of Americans", so the optimist in me says "25% of people didn't know about or answer the poll."
Can the Lt ever find Greenland on a ma? Are people still falling for Lief Ericsson’s lies?
Don't atribute malice where stupidity fits. It's quite probable that a sizable chunk of those 25% didn't even understood the question.
Too bad most of them elected a dictator.
Now imagine they send our fucking kids against NATO to die. Literally a nightmare in the making. We can’t allow it.
America is sending kids to deathcamps RN! wtf you on about?
We are witnessing DECADES of sending kids to private islands, abusing them, blackmailing them, etc..
Where have you been all these decades‽
So Iraq (twice), Afghanistan, Yemen, etc, etc, etc, etc those are all fine, but god forbid NATO?
Weird... i'd be condemning all... but then again, the US is a capitalist war economy, line must go up i guess.
25% of Americans are perfectly fine with the US just taking over independent countries. 75% oppose but only if they don't have to do anything other than answer a poll.
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