A sandwich is a social construct. But a social construct isn't always a sandwich.
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Next time the kid asks for an allowance, say that money is a social construct
Socks keep your shoes from absorbing sweat and help prevent blisters. They’re useful beyond the social construct.
Arguments like these don’t work with kids. Let them experience themselves what is best for them. And have spare socks ready in case they change their mind afterwards
Even if the argument doesn't persuade them at the time it still makes sense to point it out to them so that they are (hopefully) aware of it later.
Sure, if that's a reasonable option, but letting the kid hurt themselves isn't always practical. Letting the kids find out 'messing with the pot of boiling water is bad' the hard way, as an example, is not what I would consider good parenting.
I think it's pretty clear they're referring to uncomfortable stuff, not dangerous stuff. Obviously don't let them do dangerous stuff.
Exactly. Always protect your little ones. It is okay if they experience negative consequences, as long as it doesn’t harm them.
Trying to drink from a glass of water and get fully soaked is okay, even if the experience is not entirely positive.
Touching a hot oven is not okay. Here you have to protect them. The best you can do is try to explain why it is not okay to touch it.
Not wearing stinky shoes is a social construct.
Ok but wearing shoes is a social construct. People didn't wear shoes for thousands of years before shoes came along and they were just fine and full of blisters.
Wearing shoes is definitely not just a social construct. They protect your feet.
To some degree that's true. But these days the ground contains more dangerous objects than it used to. Specifically hazardous man-made stuff
If it was just nature and we still mostly had like forest floor and such, then probably for the most part it'd be safe yeah. Well, with the exception of plants or animals that could damage your feet or bite you
When Moses was walking through the desert for 40 years, he wasn’t just trying to fit in.
I don't know what the social aspect is apart from how the socks appear, but this isn't why they exist.
Edit: Damn. Some of you are threatened by not knowing what a social construct is but really want to argue about socks instead of asking DDG so you can understand wtf is going on before leaving a comment.
I'd be proud of this shit show, OP 🤣
Then why do they exist?
if you didn't wear socks then you'll have to wash your shoes daily or risk getting something like a yeast infection of the foot or athletes foot.
Warmth, protection, hygiene.
If you were born the only person on earth, you would eventually have something like socks on your own accord. This is function, not social. They wouldn't be Xmas themed though, since no society exists to have invented Xmas and to show off your socks to.
Social constructs are, by definition, ideas or concepts.
I love when people say "ackchyually you're wrong" without offering an alternative.

Something being a social construct doesn't mean it's not real, or ignoring it won't negatively affect you.
Laws, money, etc. are all social constructs.
Your mom is a social construct.
I like Max Stirner's perspective. Like you said, they can be useful - but we can also give them too much authority over us. It's important to be aware of that.
Yeah, fuck socks! They don't own me!
Exactly. Money is a useful construct, but if you look at everything associated with it it's insane. A tool for tracking the value of goods and services has resulted in wall street, crypto currency, and people burying gold in their yards. It's become a status symbol to hold this placeholder for labor without doing labor.
I'm not necessarily on board with a moneyless society anytime soon, but I am definitely currency critical.
Good point, kid, and here’s another one: those toys you want me to buy you are a social construct. Playtime? Yep. Social construct. Shall I keep going? Video games are next.
"Sure socks are a social construct, but so are the things that let you eat ice cream, watch your favorite streaming service, or play your favorite video game. In fact the only non-social construct actions you involve yourself in are eating, sleeping, and expelling bio waste. Even those you seem to have no problem follow the social rules around. If you'd like to abandon society and escape into nature free of the bounds of social constructs, you're welcome to do that when you're 18 and can afford enough to buy a plane ticket to Fairbanks, Alaska. Until then, you have to put on your socks."
If you'd like to abandon society and escape into nature
Where, exactly, can you do that? There's really no unclaimed nature out there anymore, at least none that can let a person survive on their own. And if you're not surviving on your own, you're part of a society.
The next time they say “Socks are a social construct.” Tell them that blisters are punishment for man’s hubris.
It is a social construct, and we live in a society… so put your damn socks on
Reminds me of the time I saw people arguing on Reddit about the phrase "time is a social construct" where some people were completely incapable of understanding what that means and conflating the concept of time with the fundamental physics thingymcgee (idk how to call it and entity feels wrong).
People were trying so hard to explain that minutes, months, seasons, etc. are all arbitrary things made up only for them to retort with "but a year is a full rotation of the sun" or "seasons exist because that's how the planet changes its climate".
the fundamental physics thingymcgee (idk how to call it and entity feels wrong)
Your not wrong, "thingymcgee" is the technical term but it's still a social construct just like gravity.
This would be a great time to remind him that we live in a society...
Nah, kinda the worst time really. Take a good look at society right now and one could argue we utterly failed and should reject it.
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And the thing stopping the kid from being forced into child labor is a social construct.
Socks serve a practical purpose when combined with shoes. They prevent rubbing (blisters) and they keep the skin cells and oils from your feet from the insides of your shoes.
Shoes serve a practical purpose in that they protect your feet from rocks, glass, and hot pavement. Did our ancestors need shoes? No. But humans have made our environments less friendly to bare feet
Our ancestors DID need shoes. Footprints in South Africa dated to be between 75K and 136K years old show footwear in use. We invented shoes possibly 100,000 years before we invented written language.
Do they show shoes or do they show sandals?
Normally not a big difference, footwear is footwear. But, if we're talking about socks, then the difference becomes relevant again.
Undetermined. Just the bottom of the shoes made an imprint.
What are you talking about? The oldest shoe we've found is roughly 10000 years old.
Our ancestors absolutely needed shoes. That's why they made them.
I would encourage you to take a hike through Greenland barefoot and come back to me with the "humans have made our environment less friendly to bare feet" line. It is, for the most part, the exact opposite that is the case. Nature is not friendly to bare feet in the slightest hence why humans have been wearing shoes long before recorded history.
It's really social norms, not anything else. There are probably more sharp and pointy things in the wilderness, then where we walk day to day.
My dream would be able to walk around the office barefoot and have it not even be considered weird.
Hookworm infections are definately in decline due to wearing shoes. Ill take shoes over hookworms.
I don't think anyone's feet would enjoy walking on asphalt at noon at 35°+
Plus people who lived in the wilderness famously had long lives
Not really. Socks used to be the layer of what you wore first if needed, and then wrapped your feet in animal skins as the extra outer layer we would now consider "shoes." Shoes and socks were just sort of a combined foot bag/bundle for thousands of years, and many cultures developed socks and/or shoes independently, meaning they are not a social construct if numerous cultures are inventing them for practical purposes.
The natural world is pretty unfriendly to bare feet, too.
Feet will naturally build up thick, tough, resilient calluses in natural environments. There have been some interesting studies done on this topic with indigenous groups.
Which indigenous groups don't wear shoes? Genuinely curious. In North America, moccasins are pretty well-known. I understand that part of the need stems from climate though. I'm more curious about what terrain an indigenous group might live in that can be safe to live barefoot.
with this heat wave, wearing any clothes is also a social construct.
Parents feeding their kids is also a social construct. The Ancients tossed their kids in the salt mines quite early.
The children yearn for the mines
I mean, if you have daughters send em to the work the corner. Probably a much better ROI if you can overlook being your daugher's pimp.
Sadly, the younger the daughter, probably the better ROI both over time and initially. Now I feel gross for recognizing that evil exists in this world as more than just a concept, some people embody it.
Very, good. That’s correct. However social constructs have consequences for non-adherence. As much as I agree with and wold like to support your stance, this is not something for which I’m willing to invest my energy or time to resolve.
Your compliance and the requirement from me, the adult, to you the child; yep, this sucks. When I’m no longer charged with your care and have completed my duty to prepare you to operate with the constructs of society, you may make this decision for yourself.
Until that time, you can put your socks on, or I will. Your choice. Love you.
In the other vein of this, I hate sock and shoes, so I’m pretty much good with skipping all of this. There are consequences that come with that decision too.
Many things are social constructs, but we also live in social groups
Yup, if you can manage to live off the grid and not have to worry about social constructs again, go for it, though I certainly wouldn't recommend it.
You would still be carrying the social constructs you have internalized throughout your life. You probably have the ability to think logically, and refer to things by their names, but logical thinking and language are also social constructs.

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