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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

A sandwich is a social construct. But a social construct isn't always a sandwich.

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  • [–] 136 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Next time the kid asks for an allowance, say that money is a social construct

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    parents feeding children is a social construct.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    See, I dunno about that one. I have a very strange and almost primal urge to feed kids. I think it's generic programming.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It took me a while to learn to control my rising angst when my son started deciding he didn't want to eat much some days. Had to learn to trust what he's saying and play it cool with bargaining with him to try things he's decided he suddenly doesn't like and eat just a few of the key food groups he hasn't eaten before deciding he's full.

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  • [–] 196 points 1 year ago (27 children)

    Socks keep your shoes from absorbing sweat and help prevent blisters. They’re useful beyond the social construct.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Arguments like these don’t work with kids. Let them experience themselves what is best for them. And have spare socks ready in case they change their mind afterwards

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sure, if that's a reasonable option, but letting the kid hurt themselves isn't always practical. Letting the kids find out 'messing with the pot of boiling water is bad' the hard way, as an example, is not what I would consider good parenting.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think it's pretty clear they're referring to uncomfortable stuff, not dangerous stuff. Obviously don't let them do dangerous stuff.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Exactly. Always protect your little ones. It is okay if they experience negative consequences, as long as it doesn’t harm them.

    Trying to drink from a glass of water and get fully soaked is okay, even if the experience is not entirely positive.

    Touching a hot oven is not okay. Here you have to protect them. The best you can do is try to explain why it is not okay to touch it.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Ok but wearing shoes is a social construct. People didn't wear shoes for thousands of years before shoes came along and they were just fine and full of blisters.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Wearing shoes is definitely not just a social construct. They protect your feet.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    To some degree that's true. But these days the ground contains more dangerous objects than it used to. Specifically hazardous man-made stuff

    If it was just nature and we still mostly had like forest floor and such, then probably for the most part it'd be safe yeah. Well, with the exception of plants or animals that could damage your feet or bite you

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    I don't know what the social aspect is apart from how the socks appear, but this isn't why they exist.

    Edit: Damn. Some of you are threatened by not knowing what a social construct is but really want to argue about socks instead of asking DDG so you can understand wtf is going on before leaving a comment.

    I'd be proud of this shit show, OP 🤣

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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    Warmth, protection, hygiene.

    If you were born the only person on earth, you would eventually have something like socks on your own accord. This is function, not social. They wouldn't be Xmas themed though, since no society exists to have invented Xmas and to show off your socks to.

    Social constructs are, by definition, ideas or concepts.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Something being a social construct doesn't mean it's not real, or ignoring it won't negatively affect you.

    Laws, money, etc. are all social constructs.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    And, while it's good to challenge dumb social constructs, you should pick your battles. Nobody can fight all dumb social constructs at the same time. Is wearing socks really where you want to focus your energy?

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Your mom is a social construct.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Haha, I'm just picturing a dad saying, "so is your mom and I fucked the shit out of her. Now go put on your socks."

    Edit: stupid autocorrect. stupid me for not noticing.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I like Max Stirner's perspective. Like you said, they can be useful - but we can also give them too much authority over us. It's important to be aware of that.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, fuck socks! They don't own me!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Exactly. Money is a useful construct, but if you look at everything associated with it it's insane. A tool for tracking the value of goods and services has resulted in wall street, crypto currency, and people burying gold in their yards. It's become a status symbol to hold this placeholder for labor without doing labor.

    I'm not necessarily on board with a moneyless society anytime soon, but I am definitely currency critical.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Good point, kid, and here’s another one: those toys you want me to buy you are a social construct. Playtime? Yep. Social construct. Shall I keep going? Video games are next.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    "Sure socks are a social construct, but so are the things that let you eat ice cream, watch your favorite streaming service, or play your favorite video game. In fact the only non-social construct actions you involve yourself in are eating, sleeping, and expelling bio waste. Even those you seem to have no problem follow the social rules around. If you'd like to abandon society and escape into nature free of the bounds of social constructs, you're welcome to do that when you're 18 and can afford enough to buy a plane ticket to Fairbanks, Alaska. Until then, you have to put on your socks."

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you'd like to abandon society and escape into nature

    Where, exactly, can you do that? There's really no unclaimed nature out there anymore, at least none that can let a person survive on their own. And if you're not surviving on your own, you're part of a society.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago

    They get that from their stuffed tiger.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    "Yes, but that doesn't automatically mean it's wrong or a bad thing.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The next time they say “Socks are a social construct.” Tell them that blisters are punishment for man’s hubris.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is a social construct, and we live in a society… so put your damn socks on

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Reminds me of the time I saw people arguing on Reddit about the phrase "time is a social construct" where some people were completely incapable of understanding what that means and conflating the concept of time with the fundamental physics thingymcgee (idk how to call it and entity feels wrong).

    People were trying so hard to explain that minutes, months, seasons, etc. are all arbitrary things made up only for them to retort with "but a year is a full rotation of the sun" or "seasons exist because that's how the planet changes its climate".

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    This would be a great time to remind him that we live in a society...

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nah, kinda the worst time really. Take a good look at society right now and one could argue we utterly failed and should reject it.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Socks serve a practical purpose when combined with shoes. They prevent rubbing (blisters) and they keep the skin cells and oils from your feet from the insides of your shoes.

    Shoes serve a practical purpose in that they protect your feet from rocks, glass, and hot pavement. Did our ancestors need shoes? No. But humans have made our environments less friendly to bare feet

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Our ancestors DID need shoes. Footprints in South Africa dated to be between 75K and 136K years old show footwear in use. We invented shoes possibly 100,000 years before we invented written language.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Do they show shoes or do they show sandals?

    Normally not a big difference, footwear is footwear. But, if we're talking about socks, then the difference becomes relevant again.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Undetermined. Just the bottom of the shoes made an imprint.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I would encourage you to take a hike through Greenland barefoot and come back to me with the "humans have made our environment less friendly to bare feet" line. It is, for the most part, the exact opposite that is the case. Nature is not friendly to bare feet in the slightest hence why humans have been wearing shoes long before recorded history.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's really social norms, not anything else. There are probably more sharp and pointy things in the wilderness, then where we walk day to day.

    My dream would be able to walk around the office barefoot and have it not even be considered weird.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Not really. Socks used to be the layer of what you wore first if needed, and then wrapped your feet in animal skins as the extra outer layer we would now consider "shoes." Shoes and socks were just sort of a combined foot bag/bundle for thousands of years, and many cultures developed socks and/or shoes independently, meaning they are not a social construct if numerous cultures are inventing them for practical purposes.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The natural world is pretty unfriendly to bare feet, too.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Feet will naturally build up thick, tough, resilient calluses in natural environments. There have been some interesting studies done on this topic with indigenous groups.

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  • Which indigenous groups don't wear shoes? Genuinely curious. In North America, moccasins are pretty well-known. I understand that part of the need stems from climate though. I'm more curious about what terrain an indigenous group might live in that can be safe to live barefoot.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    with this heat wave, wearing any clothes is also a social construct.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Parents feeding their kids is also a social construct. The Ancients tossed their kids in the salt mines quite early.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I mean, if you have daughters send em to the work the corner. Probably a much better ROI if you can overlook being your daugher's pimp.

    Sadly, the younger the daughter, probably the better ROI both over time and initially. Now I feel gross for recognizing that evil exists in this world as more than just a concept, some people embody it.

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  • Very, good. That’s correct. However social constructs have consequences for non-adherence. As much as I agree with and wold like to support your stance, this is not something for which I’m willing to invest my energy or time to resolve.

    Your compliance and the requirement from me, the adult, to you the child; yep, this sucks. When I’m no longer charged with your care and have completed my duty to prepare you to operate with the constructs of society, you may make this decision for yourself.

    Until that time, you can put your socks on, or I will. Your choice. Love you.

    In the other vein of this, I hate sock and shoes, so I’m pretty much good with skipping all of this. There are consequences that come with that decision too.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Many things are social constructs, but we also live in social groups

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yup, if you can manage to live off the grid and not have to worry about social constructs again, go for it, though I certainly wouldn't recommend it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    You would still be carrying the social constructs you have internalized throughout your life. You probably have the ability to think logically, and refer to things by their names, but logical thinking and language are also social constructs.

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