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They are choosing the targets they think will give least resistance. So far they've been really lucky. Going into homes is increasing the odds though. Lots of folks have a gun for the house but don't tote it.
Me neither, unmarked vehicles, masked folk with guns assaulting whoever they like.. What's your right to bear arms for if you're not gonna use it? I thought this would be it's use.
Years of democratic fear mongering has affected the view that many of the people this affects so they don't have firearms. Some have firearms but don't carry, they leave it at the house.
The people that were armed in case of government tyranny are fine with this. It's almost like a lot of them were armed because there wanted this to happen to the opposing political party but were scared someone would get to them first.
That's their wet dream. A violent response to their brutality so the child rapist in chief can declare martial law and cancel elections.
Every day it looks more evident that they are trying to provoke this so they have an excuse to finally take the final step and become a full-fledged dictatorship.
So what's the alternative?
Let them manufacture consent and behave like one anyway?
I'm not saying there's an alternative. I'm saying that this is what they are looking for.
The alternative would be to not let them do it and vote them out in the mid-term, but I'm afraid this is not a given right now.
Maybe get ready for a martial law incoming right before the elections? Otherwise, get ready for a violent resistance and represion.
With "them" I don't mean ICE but Mango Hitler and its goons.
ICE is merely a tool for them to be discarded when not needed anymore. ICE are terrified, and that's great! But it's not them who are planning around all this. They are just a tool, and a dumb one at that because they don't realize they are being used. Look how the hate is towards ICE and not the PedoPresident and its goons.
Mango Hitler needs an excuse to cancel the elections, and pushing the dumbfucks of ICE so far that some guy with nothing to lose shoots one of them is the perfect excuse for a martial law and a "pause" for the elections.
And when they do, the dictator will proclaim domestic terrorism and use it as an excuse to up the violence and brutality.
What is the pipeline to become like that? No human would do that out of their free will.
“The larger the group, the more toxic, the more of your beauty as an individual you have to surrender for the sake of group thought. And when you suspend your individual beauty you also give up a lot of your humanity. You will do things in the name of a group that you would never do on your own. Injuring, hurting, killing, drinking are all part of it, because you've lost your identity, because you now owe your allegiance to this thing that's bigger than you are and that controls you.”
— George Carlin
(Replaced with another Carlin quote that is much more on the nose.)
- Be born as a part of a privileged group, abuse other groups and enjoy it.
- Lose said privileges
- Become angry that you can't abuse people anymore
- Watch other groups flourish as they stop being oppressed. Become even more angry that they are doing better as your stupid ass is stuck in the same shit job
- Get a chance to abuse those groups again and unload your anger at them
It starts by Republicans keeping the school system balkanized into 50 different state curriculums, then they work to suppress the teaching of Critical Thinking Skills in as many state systems as possible. Without CTS, students develop some other petsonal random form of chaotic thinking.
Then they get out of school, and somewhere along the line they get introduced to the Conservative Propaganda Machine, which knows how to manipulate the minds of those who were deliberately never taught to think properly.
The best solutions would be a single responsible FEDERAL public school curriculum in all 50 states, that focuses on teaching and honing Critical Thinking Skills, with a section on recognizing and resisting propaganda. 2+2=4 in every state in America, Cat is spelled C-A-T everywhere in America. We don't need 50 state curriculums. You want to DOGE the government? Start with streamlining the educational system so we aren't reinventing the wheel 50 times, often by states that don't know a wheel should be round, or want to make it square because it pisses off the Libz.
After that, we need regulations on political propaganda and disingenuous political speech. We have truth in advertising laws, and they should apply to political speech as well. After all, political campaigns are just marketing campaigns for a product (the candidate), and should be expected to be as accurate and truthful as any other advertising.
there's some studies showing that the cops more likely to discharge a firearm are veterans. so most likely joining an imperialist war or being an incel are motivating factors
This is a deliciously ironic comment to me. You ask for what pipeline would lead someone to treat others as less than human, and then you immediately dehumanize them.
This is not a defense of the fascists, before anyone construes that. They are evil. But they are no less human, and that's an important distinction.
Can they be sued for this?
Lmao. Vice pres already said they have full immunity to beat and kill people
Not in state court, and certainly not after the regime falls either
Fucking Americans. What a shithole country.
It's specifically the Nazis. Don't put that shit on the rest of us.
As an American we are complicit for not doing anything. I'm also guilty. We have To organize.
As soon as you stop to spread your shit around the rest of the world.
We are the victims as much as every other country in the world, they're just concentrating on America right now.
This whole thing is a decades long Russian intelligence op, outlined in Aleksandr Dugin's The Foundations of Geopolitics, which describes how Russia can gain world dominance without overt war. It is taught at the Russian Military Academy, Putin keeps a copy in his office, and it is the Russian Playbook.
Dugin is still a close advisor, and his daughter was a very prominent intelligence agent, until she was murdered by a car bomb intended for her father, who went back inside to retrieve an umbrella when it blew.
For America, the book recommends:
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics"
Sound familiar? It sounds exactly like what's been going on in America since 1999, when this book was published.
There are sections on how to conquer every single political target on the planet. They see themselves as the ultimate ruling power on the planet, and Russia is coming for everyone. Concentrating your anger on another victim who is struggling for survival is counterproductive to your own survival. Blame the real problem, not America.
I do have one question: What are the "special services within the borders of the United States and Canada?" We know they had an embedded spy ring that we uncovered a few years ago, but they didn't have enough juice to launch that much dissent in America. Or were they referring to Agent Krasnov, the code name given by the KGB to Trump after his first visit to Moscow in 1987? It also sounds like there are others. Canada, have you uncovered any Russian moles lately?
Oh yea, all the centrists who don’t make things worse but also don’t make them better are really actually so awesome. All the people not paying attention are so cool.
The slightest thing goes wrong in France and they’re dumping manure in the streets. They’re fighting the police, they’re screaming and yelling protesting. Meanwhile, in the US, you get the occasional big thing like the BLM protests which loses steam after some time and sanctioned weekend protests like the No Kings stuff.
I have some good friends from the US, sitting beside one right now, but fucking c’mon, guys, get it together. Complacency, thy name is America.
I mean the US is more localized than that. If something happens in france Paris gets manure piles. Lots of stuff happens in DC too, but its less easy to drive a manure truck from california to DC.
So the US federal elites tend to feel safe from consequences. Honestly the only time they don't when Luigi Mangione allegedly fills one of their bosses with bullets.
Americans on the internet for 30 years: "if you so much as served coffee to a nazi during occupation you were a collaborator and basically a Nazi yourself"
Americans today: "I have no responsibility for this shit, blame the bad guys"
Something something if everyone around you is a nazi
Yeah, cause we're willingly in this shitshow
It's your duty to educate the world around you, VOTE and work at fixing your society. So yes willingly or more like willingly letting others do it.
You think people arent doing that? Have you been paying ANY attention to all the domestic backlash this shit is getting?
Of course they aren’t. It’s way easier to just say shit
Blaming a shit situation on some form of failure of morals and/or effort in the victims is a far more platable concept than accepting that these situations grow from complex causes and many years of history, and could happen in their own environment to them.
Doesn't help that the billionaires love this sort of attitude because it helps keep the little people playing crab bucket instead of coming together.
Sneering "Why would I ever want to work with people so dumb they could let this happen to themselves?" while the rope continues to tighten around the neck of the whole damn world.
You can look at a lot of crisises in history and see this sort of thinking used to push down groups living through them.
Thank god someone here gets it. That attitude is weirdly common here on lemmy and it serves as such a giant middle finger to the people fighting against the fascists every day, and especially vulnerable and oppressed groups who've been fighting with all we've got just for it all to fall apart anyways.
I know these people aren't actually ops but it helps me sleep easier at night to assume they are.
Now isn't the issue, we need people to care during elections, not just get upset on the Internet and complain. Backlash is nice, but we need our electorate to pull their head out of their ass and remember they have a duty even when the choice sucks.
We're here because 90 million people stayed home while Trump's voters showed up as scheduled. I blame non-voters as much as trump voters, and I hope those that chose to stay home remember to get off their lazy asses in 2028.
As if I'm not fucking trying? They first came to power when I was a child, and I've been fighting them my entire adult life. Shut the fuck up about what my responsibility is, I've gone far and above that.
Ah yes because none of us have conversations with our FOX NEWS BRAINWASHED families and neighbors.
Try convincing someone who's brainwashed by their desire for confirmation bias, served to them by propaganda, that you somehow know more than the media they love so much. Hell for an example, I even tried to get my father to change who he listened to, but without leaving fox news since he wouldn't trust anything else. His guy was Sean Hannity, the show that literally says "OPINION" on the bottom. I told him to at the very least listen to Shepard Smith who was at Fox at the time and was an actual journalist. He literally told me "Shepard Smith is too opinionated." ....the literal OPINION guy isn't opinionated to him, but the actual journalist saying just what happened during the day is...
Try using sources that aren't their favorite media and hear the "that's fake news. That's liberal woke lies. That's transgender ideology." I've tried over and over and over. These people will never believe they're wrong until it affects them directly. Some will still dig their heels in and find a way to blame someone else anyway.
Yeah we can totally just inform our world and it all magically gets better...
Speak for yourself and shame on you.
Are you kidding me? Did you seriously not grasp the sarcasm of that comment?
That's what the "/s" is for. To avoid confusion. Some sarcasm should be self-evident but it's better to assume at least one person won't get it.
I straight up referred to the entire situation as a shitshow. The tone indicator should've been wildly redundant.
Normally I’d agree, but the internet assumes you are wrong, so you have to think about it from that starting point, and slightly over-clarify if you want to get your point across in a single comment.
I don't think you understand how sarcasm works.
I don't think you do.
Hey, don't blame me. I voted and advocated those around me vote and talked shit to the assholes on here who told us to not bother voting.
I'm going to be using 2016 and 2024 any time in the future some dumbshit motherfucker who suggests not voting as a reasonable path.
By that argument, the victims of Nazi occupation are themselves Nazis.
Why would the gestapo (more like SA aka. brownshirts really) pieces of shit arrest Hitler? He is their god, he is the one who allows them to do all this raping and pillaging which they have always wanted to do.
They're going to keep ramping this shit up till we have protests that look scary on TV, and then they'll declare martial law in order to cancel the midterm elections.
It's going to be a rough year. The best tactic is to lie low till the midterms. But, no one will read this, so yeah, we're fucked.
Talk about learned helplessness. Protest, call your representatives, do something. Don't just lie low, what the fuck.
Can’t believe some people still think midterm will happen if “we don’t give them a reason for martial law” THEY don’t give a shit about law or anything it’s going to be cancel not matter what the only way out is to fight or maybe a general massive months long strike but they might still just kill us anyway so fight !
Yes, you're absolutely right. We mustn't go around hurting the poor little ICE man's feelings! Don't these people realize they should just shut the fuck up when state violence has escalated to defense of murdering innocent mothers? I know, I know, shame we don't have laws or rights or case law on the books that demonstrates a person's right to free speech. That'd be crazy if people weren't afraid to insult the Gestapo.
Oh, no. Somebody hurt the poor little thugs feelings!
"If you do this, they don’t even have to abuse any rights."
Yes, ICE doesn't HAVE to abuse any rights. But they wanted to, so they beat and kidnapped an innocent American citizen minor. The ICE thugs should he arrested and tried for this behavior. Will a local DA stand up for his community?
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