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[–] 80 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Because of course they did

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  • [–] 52 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    It doesn't even make sense in context at all. It's so painfully obviously a move intended to harm out of sheer vindictiveness. Food stamps aren't even connected to the issue they are claiming fraud over. They are raging about people using funds for day cares that don't serve children... so the response is to take food out of children's mouths? It's so fucking stupid and so transparently intentionally evil.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    I mean, that's entirely how it makes sense.

    Trump is a literally demented mad man, acting out of vindictive spite.

    He's the mad king.

    Him, and his supporters, want people to suffer and die.

    The cruelty is the point.

    They're just evil, its... just ... more clear now?

    As if it wasn't somehow clear enough before?

    They're an existential threat to everyone who isn't them, and even a to great majority of their own.

    They need to be put down, like the traitors they are.


    Here, here you go:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=8SYmgOM1kHc

    The infinitely lamer version of Hans Landa comes to Minnesota, to disappear some poor woman doing DoorDash, who just barely escaped being nabbed ... her husband and kid got caught, but she forced her way into the house, to hide.

    This is Anne Frank, USA, 2026, except Anne speaks Spanish.

    There is no complexity in evaluating the overall morality of this situation.

    These people are Nazis.

    Never Again means Never Again.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    I mean, it doesn’t make sense to start an expensive investigation over some random streamers bs, nor does it make sense to blame an immigrant community when the known nd prosecuted fraud was lead by white people and victimized that community, but here we are.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    This is about trying to punish the parts of the country that didn't vote for the selfish little whiny-ass titty baby in the White House.

    That's what these invasions are about and it's what starving children is about. The thin-skinned little diaper boy is butthurt that they didn't support him in enough numbers, so it's about punishing them. Even if it's children that weren't even born by November 2024.

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  • [–] 50 points 10 months ago

    Completely fucking illegal. Add it to the pile, I guess. 🤷

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  • [–] 39 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    This administration keeps pushing and pushing hoping to foment a rebellion so they can play the strong man and start randomly shooting people. Well I mean randomly shoot MORE people since they’ve apparently already started.

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  • [–] 39 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Shouldnt the people of Minnesota sue Nick Shirley directly for the loss of any funds based on their bogus information. The damages may appear direct by saying you cut $200 of food to this person, but the effects of cutting that $200 could cause thousands in damages to their lives. Thus suing them for multiple times the total amount of funds cut should be completely reasonable.

    People making unfound claims that don't come out and immediately say they were bullshit when policies are made around the should be held 100% liable. Then every member involved in enacting that policy once found rediculous should be impeached investigated to be personally held liable for the same amounts, owed to the citizens hurt.

    Would that make them bankrupt for the rest of their life, yes. But their actions caused worse

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  • [–] [S] 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Hungry people dont wait for lawsuits. They just cook whatever meat is at hand

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    I don't know what this said. But, at this point, I likely would have agreed. When the opposition party is asking people that are being executed by the state to "remain peaceful, the system will work". They have to actually grow a pair of balls and use their position of power to fight back WITH THE SYSTEM. If they had any balls they'd turn the police force of Minnesota around to protect the protestors.

    The only thing that the state government is doing is remaining passive and obedient to a federal government that just executed one of its citizens.

    They can say naughty words all they want. They mean NOTHING without action! If you want people to remain peaceful, you can't make peaceful action result in no material change. Otherwise people are going to get real "specific" really fast.

    Edit: hope this is "general" enough of a comment for the mods.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 10 months ago

    When you start talking about specifics, or advocating that people do it, yes, that gets a short term ban. Don't incriminate yourself in public.

    Generic unlikely to be acted on, not so much.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    I'd love it if massive class action suits could completely destroy these asshole propagandists, oops, I mean, "influencers" 🙄 and make them go find an honest living.

    Even better: finding a way to imprison those involved in the more egregious cases of disinformation and misinformation. I'd love to see lil' Alex Jones behind bars. Same with this Nick Shirley.

    But especially Benny Johnson, that smug little prick. He is a Russian asset trying to destroy this country from within and he should be rotting in prison.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It does seem like we need to figure that out. We have lost the distinction that you have free speech, but you’re not free of the consequences of your speech.

    We have a fundamental change with the internet, where people’s words can have a much larger impact on the world, while at the same time you’re getting more distance from those impacts, more insulation from the consequences.

    In the olden days you could say “the sky is falling” all you want but people will think you’re weird and you’ll be ostracized. You face consequences for your words. Similarly you could scream. “FIRE” in a crowded theater subject to arrest for the panic you cause, for endangering people’s lives. You face the consequences of your words.

    Now whatever you say on the internet has a broad enough reach that there will always be susceptible listeners, those who believe or who can be easily convinced. Now with sensationalistic and outrage culture, media, and politics, there will always be someone to “ride the wave” for their own benefit. But when there are consequences, it’s much easier to step away saying “wasn’t my fault”.

    We as a society desperately need to reconnect those consequences back to those whose words caused them and those who “rode the wave” to profit their own needs

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Also, enemies like Russia can find and fund these motherfuckers and there is no way to punish all these little traitors for selling out their country while they cash in.

    Benny Johnson, for example. That little fucker should be rotting in prison.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Unfortunately that just isn't something you can really sue for.

    You can sue the administration putting the rules in place, but you can't sue someone for saying something that's then picked up by another person, and another, and so on until the president happens to hear about it.

    It's why, for example, financial sites will always have the disclaimer "this is not financial advice, seek the advice of a licensed financial professional, etc, etc", because financial harms are often covered, (while other things affected by lies are not in most circumstances) when that lie is something you took action on, and that action caused you harm (e.g. "this stock is going to double tomorrow", you buy it, it crashes)

    But you can't sue when that lie caused someone else to do something that indirectly caused you harm. (e.g. "this stock will crash in a week", billionaire sells a ton of the stock, your retirement portfolio drops in value) In that case, only the billionaire would be eligible to sue the person who lied to them.

    You might be able to sue Nick Shirley if you ran a daycare business and his false claims about your daycare caused your daycare to get attacked, but you couldn't sue him if he lied about a daycare down the road and mobs started attacking every daycare in town because they just assumed all of them were at fault, and you certainly couldn't sue if the claims he made then got to the social media feeds of some locals, which then caused local food banks run by those locals to stop offering food because they thought there's a chance it could be obtained by scammers instead of those in need.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Why couldn't one argue that Nick Shirley commited libel/slander. Their actions did in fact directly impact everyone involved? Did they claim you did something, yes. Did they do it with the intention to cause harm, yes. All harmed should be able to sue

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Why couldn’t one argue that Nick Shirley commited libel/slander

    They could. They being the individuals and organizations talked about. Not the community, bystanders, people affected by food stamps cuts, kids or their parents who go to the daycares, etc.

    Their actions did in fact directly impact everyone involved?

    "Directly" is doing the heavy lifting here, and that's why this doesn't work. Trump cutting food stamps and Nick Shirley's claims against the daycares are entirely separate actions. Even if Nick Shirley had told Trump directly to cut food stamps, based on all the same lies, he wouldn't be sued, Trump would be sued for being the one who actually did the cuts.

    Did they claim you did something, yes

    They claimed some daycares did, not every individual affected by the food stamp cuts, which is another reason why those people can't sue.

    Did they do it with the intention to cause harm, yes.

    Unfortunately that's something a court would have to debate for a very long time, and find hard evidence for. (e.g. messages saying "I know it's not true but I just hate those people" would be damn near incriminating in their own right)

    All harmed should be able to sue

    Should? Probably, at least in this instance it seems like it'd be beneficial overall.

    Will? That's another story. The legal system just isn't set up in a way for that type of thing to work, given what I've mentioned previously.

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    [–] 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Even for Taco I didn't have "purposefully starving children in American" on my bingo card, but here we are.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    That what funding to Israel was for. We crossed that off the list already.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    Oh, I know they don't give a rat's ass about children in other countries, especially if they are brown and/or non-xtian.

    That stupid "doge" thing of killing USAID is actively killing people, including children, in other countries right now. Last I looked, it reached into six digits already according to estimates.

    But I'm talking about them starving children here in order to send a tingle up the leg of the conservatives (and of course, placate Taco's delicate ego). Didn't think even conservatives would be this bad about white children, many of which are most likely xtian, in America.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago

    "Allow us to murder you quickly, or we'll starve you to death slowly!"

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago

    If you can, please donate to your local food and clothing banks.

    Often money donations are best.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    The longer this goes the more we see just how much abuse the average US citizen will take without going further than peacefully protesting.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The Republicans want violence in the streets so they can implement full martial law, particularly in blue states.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Do they know White people are also on food stamps?

    In terms of raw numbers there are more White people in poverty in the US, but proportional to population size more Blacks are in poverty, due to structural racism.

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  • [–] 106 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Trump always finds a way to fk children

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    Vindictive. Minnesota's really been having it rough lately...

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    Bbbuut... Kamala wouldve done this too! They were equivalent! I gotta sit this one out. Hurr durr...

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    But i was told a judge blocked this...

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    It’s really cold in Minnesota at the moment. That’s why the food stamps are frozen. Fck that noise! The nekkid emperor can take that shit east! Fuck him and his goons 6 ways to Sunday & all the way to Saskatoon & points beyond. I think a line has been crossed & some folks just gotta step up (This hand raised) to make the sausage that the truest of American patriots will need to be ready grind. It ain’t gonna be pretty. No one ever really said we’d be where we are except maybe George Orwell. Anyhoo.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    Free food at all stores in Minnesota. Because no one see's anyone taking food.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Trump is laying siege on America like Rodrigo Borgia stomping around midaeval Italy.

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    A child is whining from inside 1600 Penn Ave!

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    Murder them, starve them. The Trump regime sure hates Americans.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Effecting Minnesota first, these are some of the earlier aftershocks of shitler's BBB. Many more to come... https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/by-the-numbers-senate-republican-leaderships-reconciliation-bill-takes

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Anybody know about the Roman concept of Panem et Circensis? Bread and circus? Basically, the concept is that well fed and entertained people don't revolt. And they're taking away the bread...

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