Basically what I mean is, did you also come here from reddit?

I came here after I got my Reddit account banned permanently. And the thing is, I don't exactly know why I got banned. Nor what I did wrong. I always tried to follow the rules, post and comment appropriately and nicely, but on New Year's Day last week, I got a message simply saying "Your account have been permanently banned for violating the rules.

But when I replied asking what rule or rules I unknowingly broke, they just messaged me back saying "you got banned because you violated the community guidelines". So now I'm here.

What about you? Are you also a Reddit Refugee?

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[–] 150 points 10 months ago (12 children)

I think the majority of Lemmy users are Reddit refugees, not because they got banned, but because of the Reddit API changes that forced 99% of the third party apps to shut down.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    What is API?

    Like ELI5 please

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    If I have valuable info and I want to share it in a controlled way, I can use an API. If i am an airline, I could spit out a feed that tells you a list of flights and how delayed they are. If im Reddit, I can share posts, comments, etc.

    Anyone (in the case of a free API) can take the data the API spits out and make their own app with it. But if you charge for API access, then someone would have to pay to make an app with your information.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    The API change wasn’t it, it’s when it became clear to me they were selling all my data to Google. I frequented mental health subs, and I started getting Google ads for scams TARGETING people with mental health issues. Just sick.

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    not because they got banned

    Nah, that's always been a sizable chunk. Fediverse will always have the worst of the worst, because it's the easiest to evade bans. And yet there's still multiple people who constantly get accounts banned for ban evasion.

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  • [–] 59 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Since the API exodus, yes.

    I made a very conscious choice to leave reddit at that time, due to that particular bullshit, and I don't regret it.

    Doesn't mean I don't miss reddit though, because I do. Reddit has a lot more traffic which obviously means a lot more content in the sort of niche communities I really love.

    But I made the right choice. I don't want to be part of that any longer. And the more of us make this choice, the better things will be for us all.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    there are niche subs i miss, like drama of ytuber i used to follow(obscure ytubers, not the current grifters).

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I still follow my niche interests via the lurk-only app Stealth. It allows you to kinda follow subreddits you want like multireddits you could create with RES but you can't login so you can't post. Feels like an okay-ish third party reddit app.

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago

    I left during the api bullshit, fuck spez

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    ... Every single person on Lemmy is a Reddit refugee. You're not going to find a single person here who has not used Reddit before.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The vast majority of folk here are ex Reddit users. I predate the great Reddit exodus, but even so, I came to lemmy after leaving Reddit, because I wanted something to scratch that itch.

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    [–] 20 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, a lot of us left during the API exodus. Reddit was already going downhill anyway with all the bot spam and shills, that's probably even worse there nowadays.

    Once in a while I do bring up old.reddit to read through some communities that haven't caught on here (yet), or maybe something that comes up in a google search, but that hasn't been enough to make me want to log back in there let alone post/comment on anything.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I left with the disabling of API.

    Today, I went back in to my account to delete every single comment I have ever made, one by one, then deleted the entire account. Should have done it ages ago, but better now than never.

    I was reading about bans and stuff and all sorts that I didn't care to understand, so instead of using a third party apps to change/delete/etc my comments, I did it manually. It felt pretty satisfying.

    My last "fuck you, r/jailbait Spez". I'm not letting them use my comments or account for anything. Hopefully, I've done it right.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    They see that happening and just restore all of the deleted comments anyway.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Damn.. Thought I had it right. 😔

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    I would probably even say: Who wasnt?
    You either came from Twitter, Reddit or some other major social media as a primary user.
    I don't believe someone just was old enough to join the internet world and decided to just join lemmy/fediverse at first sight.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    They killed 3rd party apps, I didn't wanna use their app, so I switched to something else and that something else happened to be Lemmy. Turns out, Lemmy is even better than Reddit in many ways.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    They killed 3rd party apps. I left when my app stopped working and lemmy conveniently worked with some of the same clients that reddit was breaking.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I am here from reddit but I wouldn't call myself a refugee. More like an immigrant. I wasn't banned. I just tried this, liked it better, and since I disagreed with the API changes I settled here. I still browse reddit when I can't find specific stuff on Lemmy, and very, very occasionally (like once or twice a year) I post there in subs that aren't as developed here.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Same here.
    My first account was banned for (IMO bogus reasons)
    My now second but primary account is still active sometimes but I only lurk 99% of the time and almost never vote
    I only use Lemmy as of now primarily.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Same here. Permanently banned from all of Reddit, and I was never told why. I suspect it was my criticism of the Orange One. I appeal every day, just to give them a little more paperwork.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Originally I came with the API changes, I had only been using reddit for two months though. If I had known about Lemmy I don't think I would have had the desire to use reddit in the first place.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Same story got hooked on Reddit because I could access content without an account. Turns out: you can do the same with Lemmy, the results just aren't that high on a web browser.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I still consume on Reddit, but won’t post or contribute there anymore.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, so much good information is there it's unavoidable to just browse on in, from time to time.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    It feels like Even if someone did ask on Lemmy, it doesn't appear on Google or other search engines at all. makes me wonder if it's because of the federation or if it's actively being pushed down...

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago*

    Truth is, regardless of how fucked that platform is, I still resent being banned and the insane extent to which they prevent you returning. The use of throwaways was entirely normal back in the day, now it's called 'ban evasion'. It's nearly impossible (or at least super-tedious) to get back on once they kick you off. It just seems like such an extreme over-reaction. Permanent bans are insane. I've seen people get barred from pubs after drunken violence, but that's usually only for a year or so. This is basically forever.

    I was on there for over a decade and posted in multiple communities all the time. Had a load of karma and rarely got into any aggressive arguments. Then one day I upset a mod for complaining about a removed post, that apparently contravened some petty rule. I'm banned from the sub. I use another account, they found out it was me I'm permanently banned. 12 years of contribution just forgotten, all because of some vindictive little basement dwelling prick.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    MAGA freaks should love me. I didn't get banned from reddit, I self-deported.

    I actually had a Fediverse account several years before the Great Reddit Migration, but it didn't keep my interest at the time. Tried again and stuck with it after the API change killed third-party reddit apps and they started inserting reddit-approved mods into all major subs.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    Yes, I'm a Reddit refugee.

    The site changed so much over the ten years I used it. When I started, there was plenty of good discussion and the most informative comments got voted up. Then power users started playing the same games with karma that rich people play with money. Near the end the negativity and superficiality were overwhelming. Then the API business happened and I realised Reddit was in the last few stages of circling the drain. I learned about Lemmy from a comment by someone who announced they were leaving for good, and I followed them.

    If you look at Reddit today... the posts and comments share the same quality regardless of whether they're human or AI slop.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    i spent 15+ years on reddit but when they started to sell out to wall street it was pretty obvious where it was going... but im addicted to doomscrolling so i built an instance to replace my own reddit addiction. the fediverse has filled the gap nicely.

    just before it took a hard right turn and replaced half the users with bots

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  • [+] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    Please tell me you're self hosting that on a broken down 2012 laptop, using a $99 GoDaddy domain for the ultimate fuck you asthetic.

    well, no. i wanted to build something scalable and something a little more fashioned like reddit so i ended up using an open source project called mbin.

    its runnin ~40$/m for the resources required on a rental outta helsinki.

    i like to keep it open to the public as a fediverse onramp.. not a lot of local content, but pulls in quite a bit of shit. i think my compressed database backups are ~7GB. image store is ~500GB/3.25m unique.

    after 3 years, some instance stats:

    None

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    [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    Leaving all US-American platforms, meta first, then Reddit, now google. No reason to support US businesses.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I came here and leave Reddit forever because I am trying to use less US products and services. Right now I don't know how to bypass Microsoft and Google. Everything else is easy (like forgetting about Reddit or not drinking Coca Cola).

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    It's also really nice not to have a continuous doom scroll. You can really only go for like an hour on the front page here until the places start becoming really esoteric. I'm which case not interesting or very interesting. But it's not active enough to provide you with a whole day of gloom. And I kinda like that.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    If you can afford and are not relying on games get a mac. I mean it's still US but it is soooo much better and less enshitticated than windows. Regarding Google you can switch to a European cloud use duckduckgo or stuff for search, there are plenty foss alternatives to maps and for YouTube you can check out grayjay. It's a bit tedious but it's possible and as convenient as big tech products

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    Yes and no, I was on Mastodon long ago, peaked into Lenmy, watched other Fediverse prokects with interest.

    I'd not used Reddit for many years, before I actually made a Lemmy account, then when I saw Boost was available for Lemmy, I started using that.

    I am odd though, old and have a differnt view of the internet based around it being a space for enthusiasts and tinkerers and corporate can and will only ever eventually enshitifiy whatever their fingers touch, so I dont use things like FB, Reddit, Apple products, Microsoft products, WhatsApp, Insta, Light room etc

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I quit the big R when they killed third party apps.

    Would have paid them a monthly fee to use my app,but the way they killed them really soured me on Reddit. Burned my account, and moved on

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    When Reddit killed Apollo, I no longer had the means to use Reddit— I’d rather not have Reddit than use the Reddit app.

    Unlike so many people here, I have nothing against centralized social media, and I actively miss it— I miss having a large user base to talk with, I GREATLY miss all the specialize niche communities I followed. But it’s not good if I can’t access them.

    Yes, the centralized nature of Reddit means that one person can fuck up the entire community… but decentralization means I have no one to talk to about the things I want to.

    Anyway. I’m here hoping that enough people will eventually join that I can have MY Reddit back. I’m frustrated that the place is so tankie infested though, and fear that’s greatly holding it back.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    Fuck Reddit and move on.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    At least you got a message. I got shadowbanned without any message, and tons of appeals were just wasted times. :(

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Shadowbanning is the most passive-aggressive chickenshit behavior. It's not like it isn't almost immediately obvious when it happens either. If you want to ban me, have the balls to tell me and cite the justification for it.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    I'm also here from the API thing. This scratches the itch for me and that's more than enough in this day and age.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I got banned for low key implying there's a genocide going on in Gaza.

    Not even stating it.

    Just implying it.

    "antisemitism, permaban"

    That was in 2023 iirc

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    one of my accounts got banned for offering an explanation of somebody else's thought process. I was "advocating violence" or some shit like that, apparently

    because I offered my best take at what might have been going through this person's head for why they took a particular action.

    mods & admins are all dumb cunts. not my subs, though, my mods were cool, obviously

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I came here after I read spez wanted to paywall subreddits.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    Another one here for the API exodus 👍

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    I think the better question is to ask who isn't a Reddit refugee. As in, who here never had a Reddit account and just showed up on Lemmy one day?

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    I'm here because Reddit started buying CBP adds. Fuck collaborators

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I was/am. After my 4th random permaban I said fuck it, typed "reddit alternative" into Google and this popped up.

    Its pretty sweet for now until theres too many of us on the lifeboat and Skynet finds us and we get bots out the arse.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Same here. My reddit account kept getting banned without any warning and i didn't even do anything lol. Honestly reddit has been really weird now. If you had an account which is more than 4-5 years old, then they won't do anything. But they basically just ban all new accounts if you post or comment anything. I am still new here so i am having a hard time understanding this platform. If anyone can help mei navigate it better, i would be grateful.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Only started doing Reddit frequently late 2024, and then came "Liberation Day" & I realized I needed to liberate myself from US tech.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago*

    i am, after the great purges last year, feb-april was just a massive slaughter of accounts for everyone. more or less reddit realized by doing this they are losing too many users to fast, so they just switch to more insidious background bannings.

    to, OP it seems like they do these purges near the beginning of the year, just last year it was more severe. i think want mostly AI to run the show now, and just use the remaining users for ad revenue.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I'm more of a deserter than a refugee. My first Lemmy account must be 5 or 6 years old at this point; I was there in the background when the magic was written 😛. Over time, my activity on reddit gradually decreased, and I stopped using it some months before the API exodus.

    spoiler

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Wahou! 6 years?! What did the threadiverse looked like back then?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    The devs were far more accessible, and new server admins would troubleshoot issues with the newly implemented federation thingy with them (yup, it wasn't always there!). And they'd make a sort of introduction post for their server, asking to be federated. Yeah, there was a kind of simplicity that's been lost the more people got in.

    It was also feasible to read an entire day worth of posts in less than an hour 😅

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Dozens of us!

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I'm unfortunately still on Reddit due to modding 2 subs.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I voluntarily quit Reddit when the API fuckery happened. Deleted all of my posts, comments, etc. after 16 years, and millions of useless points. I don't and never will give a fuck. Also a refugee from Digg before that, Fark, /. etc. I'm pretty happy with the fediverse so far, and will likely stand up my own server(s) in the next year or so.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    It's the reason the Lemmyverse and Fediverse exist.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Reddit became too much of a shithole, so I bailed out.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I am right on my path of weaning from the Tangerine Turd's America. Degoogling. Buying locally, Payment options, car choice, Amazon, etc.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I am a Reddit exile. I don’t know exactly what I did to get banned, and really give a shit why.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Fuck reddit !

    How's it going 👋

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago*

    I'm guessing most people here came from Reddit. It was a ghost town before the APIocalypse.

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