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[–] 298 points 10 months ago* (17 children)

the school went on lockdown after federal agents were spotted in the area

I just want to call attention to the fact that this is where we are as a country. The mere presence of federal employees is causing schools to go into lockdown.

If that's not a clear indication that things are broken, I don't know what is.

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  • [–] 81 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    Half the country loves this btw.

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  • [–] 55 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    This cant be overstated enough. 70 million people absolutely love what's happening.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Need a COVID for conservatives

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It killed lots of them, but it had weakened by the time it spread to the rural states so it didn’t kill as quickly as the first wave in the big cities.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I'm still impressed that bird flu hasn't made the jump to humans yet, that would be an extremely aggressive disease that would kill a lot of people, as most diseases that jump from animals to humans. Republicans have been lucky that their cuts to any and all disease controls haven't resulted in it spreading freely

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Much less than half, but they are a very noisy and emboldened group.

    If you can get the apathetic and politically uninvolved to start caring, you can easily outnumber the MAGAts.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    We can't really know what the non-eligible voting population believes, but in the 2024 General Election, ~34% voted Republican, ~32% voted Democrat, ~1% voted 3rd party, and ~33% didn't vote.

    It's more like at least a third of the country loves this, probably a little more although I have to imagine that some Republicans have soured on Trump, and that not all Republicans share the cult of personality idolization.

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  • [–] 166 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    “They don’t care. They’re just animals. I’ve never seen people behave like this.

    You know it’s fucking dire if someone that works at a school says that.

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  • [+] -24 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I wish I could agree with you, but when I worked at a campus, I heard teachers make similar remarks about children of color.

    "They care about teaching and keep the kids safe," were among the reasons why these teachers should get to keep their jobs.

    I'd think that silently forcing a child to accept their fate due to systemic racism due to your biases would be considered an act of aggression, but apparently I was at fault for reporting this behavior.

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Okay, but they’re not saying that about a child of color. They’re saying it about DHS coming in and throwing people to the ground. I’m sorry that happened to you, but it’s not really relevant.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Huh, there seems to be a resounding "fuck you" to my previous comment. I think I may have either read too deep into your original comment, or I'm missing something that's implied.

    I read your comment as, "teachers are practically Mr. Rogers and it speaks volumes that they'd disparage anyone." Did I misunderstand?

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I believe it's meant to be read as "teachers are observing ice behaving worse than even the most irreverent highschoolers". Correct me if I'm wrong and I'll delete this

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  • [–] 76 points 10 months ago (22 children)

    The behaviour of ice and the dhs fits the definition of terrorism: "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims". State terrorism is still terrorism.

    Nazi Germany prior to the Reichstag fire was kinda like the usa now: thugs on the street harassing civilians of chosen outgroups without consequences, but the government was still ostensibly obeying laws and not yet mass disappearing people. I think usa republicans aren't ready yet to have their Reichstag fire moment, but it just seems like a matter of time. Their expansion of ice seems pretty much unopposed & their take over of government agencies + army/navy appears to be progressing steadily as well.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (16 children)

    Our Reichstag fire was long ago, and it's not about "Republicans".

    The response to 9-11 is what some consider to be the "turning point", the Patriot Act and what it created was a point of no return. (it made ICE, a surveillance state, Guantanamo concentration camp, and so much more). There is no better environment for fascism, it approves and supports fascism by design.

    If you somehow erased every Republican tomorrow, that fascist surveillance police state would remain, waiting to be used in the only way it can be used.

    Democrats won't save you

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)

    what some consider to be the turning point

    Yep. I remember those conversations, you’re right.

    Unfortunately it was also around the time the world was urging US citizens to vote in decent numbers and they were told to mind their own business, that not voting was a right.

    Democrats won’t save you

    The current ones won’t. The only way, outside collapse and rebuild which is undesirable, action from within government which won’t happen, stop work and participation protests peacefully by something like 60-70% of the population which won’t happen because Americans can’t endure hardship, is to vote out the current Democrats in primaries then vote those primaried in. That requires better than 80% turnout and sticking to the cause, cleaning out and rebuilding that party. Your system allows nothing else and it needs numbers because of the Electoral College problem.

    The fact is, had Americans not been so lazy with voting, it and now the world wouldn’t be here. That this is caused by simple laziness and lack of desire to vote will never be forgotten by me and it will always cloud my view of Americans. I’ll never again give any American citizen the benefit of the doubt.

    Edits: third paragraph

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    the CURRENT dnc, are pretty much complicit, and in line with the gop and thier donors. if you look at which senators, and house seats, a percentage of them are like chuck schumer and hakeem jefferies, DINOs. the minority leaders are just lightning rods to take attention away from the DINOs that are at risk of being primaried. and yes culture war bs, also helps the DINos too, keeps the plebs distracted as much it does the republicans. remember shcumers, had 8 non-electable Ds take the fall for reopening the government, it was to hide the other 13 senators, that were up for re-election this year.

    schumer dint want to do it himself, because it was too obvious to vote with the gop. a fun fact amy schumer is chucks cousin, and both are pretty much the same POS(one steals jokes material and the other shills for aipac).

    dems are too fickle to vote in lockstep like republicans do, they had the whole propaganda mahcine figure dout, dems never took advantage of social media, they are always banking on traditional methods, aka LAZY campaigning. from what we observed, DNC loves to coast by on some marginal insignificant wins, to keep the grift going, as probably coordinated by thier megadonors/gop back doors.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago* (11 children)

    Okay, for sake of discussion let's say everyone who can vote does vote.

    Why do you think that would improve things? The options are still A or B, and both options are pro-corporate police surveillance state.

    Even if these voters elected ONLY Democrats, and all of those Democrats were "the good ones" (let's say they are New Deal Ds who are pro-union)...

    The behemoth would still be there, doing it's thing. None of these elected reps would change this. There's a massive black budget that most elected reps will never, ever see.

    Our political system has evolved to protect itself from interference, so it must be dismantled. All of it.

    And there are international monsters exerting their will, too. It's a very big problem.

    I don't give any nationality the benefit of the doubt, join us

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (10 children)

    Looks like you’re giving a brief and governed glance to the point of primaries.

    why do you think that would improve things

    Option A has better people.

    there’s still only option A and B

    Option A has now changed and yes, I said that, which as I also pointed out sets tge terms you have to fix it.

    the behemoth would still be there

    I assume by ‘behemoth’ you mean the capitalist influence problem. That’s why you put those people there, to legislate against that. You gave them a mandate. It takes time, it wouldn’t change overnight, but to assume that they wouldn’t is looking for excuses.

    none of these elected reps would change this

    But the Republicans can elect theirs and they can make the changes they want. Okay.

    More excuses for not trying.

    it must be dismantled

    Yes, and you only have three ways, outside voting in the people you want. The first is horrific, the second won’t happen from within and the third, the population won’t endure the hardship for.

    This is what I mean by excuses and laziness.

    It’s why nothing will be done and you’ll fall under it. You can’t even put trust in and take the easy option.

    Laziness doesn’t just mean ‘won’t work physically for money’.

    join us

    Pass

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (9 children)

    Pass

    I was just kidding, we all know that your nation lives under the heavy yoke of the USA. If only you were brave enough to protest and vote properly and destroy it!

    Oh well, until you do, the USA will gladly allow you to serve it for as long as you need.

    I will never give your nation the benefit of the doubt again, I'm afraid. :(

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (8 children)

    Champ none of this offends me, but I get it.

    brave enough to protest

    I have.

    and vote

    I did. Every election.

    the USA will gladly allow…

    Yeah? No shit Sherlock, it’s likely my government will follow you clowns, because of a fucking debt we owe over WW2. Not sure if you remember that cuntbucket, but we keep our word.

    Do I like that? Nope, but it is what it is.

    I will never give…

    I don’t care. That neans more to you than us sunshine, I give you the drum.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (7 children)

    Buddy, I'm not trying to offend you.

    The only way you could find my post offensive is if it pertains to you. Whoopsie, I thought you were better than that!

    I don't care that you don't care, Debbie Downer. Go sit in your corner and weep!

    YOU MUST VOTE FOR THEM IT'S THE ONLY WAY

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    lmao that was fuckin terrible.

    How trump was elected becomes clearer to me ever day.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I was trying an impression and lost control, but I am not a Trumper, apologies for the switcheroo

    But, don't forget, he wasn't elected by voters. He was elected by media (unfathomable coverage because of high ratings) in the first election, and he was elected in the second because of that AND Kamala took a knee.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    also with signficiant rigging from musk through his starlink, on the machines. something the DNC is unwilling to air out.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I thought all the billionaires on stage celebrating with Trump was fishy, who knew?

    I'm kidding we all watched it in real time.

    Meanwhile, the "liberal media" reports everything Trump 24 hours a day, great ratings! Biden's ratings were SHIT

    Harris ran her campaign begging for Republican votes. So weird that she lost, what a winning strategy that has never, ever worked in the history of USA.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    remember how there was news about musk knowing about the results ahead of time, something never picked by the news, and only mentioned on reddit once. my assumption DNC are just controlled opposition, its possible they knew or suspect it was rigged, and wanted her take the fall, they think they willhave enough ammo based on what trump is doing , to get elected for the next few elections, without changing much in thier strategies as a party. if you see how hakeem, schumer and dinos vote recently, it tells alot they are funded by the same people that also funds gop.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Harris campaign made over a billion dollars in a few months. Unprecedented.

    Trump's campaign was at 900 million or so, after four years.

    Harris campaign knew what would happen if they wasted months courting Rs instead of pursuing D and I votes, but they were very well compensated. How much under the table? We'll never know...

    Some Ds mean well, but the leadership is long gone.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    The question is, is the American public in the right mood to flip over to fascism when scared by the riechstag fire or flip against it?

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Dude, we've already flipped. Dissent is punished and while most people aren't okay with it, no one's doing anything that will actually stop it.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    as soon as the first shooting, disappearance happened, there shouldve been riots, instead we got peaceful and ineffective protesting, if the govt knows you arnt going to riot with threat of mass unrest, they are going to ignore the protest.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    At the very least they’ll look on and offer ‘thoughts and prayers’.

    We already see the ‘sorry, I didn’t do this personally, the ‘good natured’ jokes about it because what else can you do at a time like this, how they ‘stand on the side of…’, the philosophical quotes whenever something happens.

    Can’t vote or protest though, nope, they might lose a job, or it’s their right not to, or it doesn’t make a difference.

    They’ll look on. Furthermore once it’s all done they’ll expect we quickly forget and forgive.

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  • [–] 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They're going to schools because it's a safe assumption no one has a gun.

    They want easy victims, and too many people still don't understand what the phrase "stay dangerous" ever meant.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    Yep, I also have a feeling they are singling out weak targets to appear strong, nationally and internationally: blackmail Ukraine, plan luxury resorts in Gaza, kill unarmed people unprovoked, kidnap the head of one of the weakest states on earth, threaten a starving country (Cuba), defund universities and humanitarian organizations.

    They can be seen kneeling when Putin offers a shoe to polish and when they have to play the victim of hostile trade.

    Sorry for going on a tangent. The frustration is real.

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  • [–] 57 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    Shitler’s Gestapo terrorizing kids. On brand for the kiddie rapist cult

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  • [–] 40 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I was initially against arming teachers but maybe they should start doing that to protect students from the gestapo.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    This is too fucking much. Jail is too good for ICE agents. Fucking Nazi Scum

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    That protestor was fortunate that he wasn't shot in the face.

    On a side note, if you're participating in a protest, please wear reasonable shoes or even steel-toed boots, not SANDALS. This request is for your own safety, I'm not the fashion police.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago*

    Who were they going to get? A kid? Or better yet, a teacher? A coach, a school janitor or bus driver?

    Perhaps the public should re-examine the premise of why they hate “criminal” immigrants so much…

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  • [–] 56 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    💀

    I remember was just in highschool like during the first trump admin...

    This is beyond cooked. My grades was already has Cs and Ds, if this shit happened when I was in highschool, this is just guranteeing that I get all Fs. I'd be too scared to go to school as an immigrant (legal btw).

    What the fuck.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The irony is that in a lot of states you'd be reported to the police for truancy and missing too much school. -Yet another way to put a target on your back.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Stress fucks up your academic performance something fierce. I don't blame you for having poor grades. I got fired in my first Trump term.

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  • [+] -44 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    My grades was already has Cs and Ds.

    You dont say?

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  • [–] 36 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Yes, depression and fucking household issues. So much fucking yelling in the house.

    I not exactly in a good mood right now so I don't bother to use proper grammer.

    I'm dreading a Chinese Exclusion Act 2.0 and also busy helping with family stuff... and I get yelled at a lot by my parents because I "didn't do the stuff correctly"

    Depression makes my mind kinda split into 2 languages so I kinda mixed things up lol

    Flashbacks to getting bullied in school

    Ugh

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Hang in there eh, it’s not your fault.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    Highschool has been long done.

    I just took the GED instead.

    I did get accepted to Penn State but I had to withdraw due to depression. Because my family of origin is so unsympathetic to depression and because they're from a culture that doesn't understand mental health at all.

    Still surviving... but barely.

    I have to rely on family.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Any chance to get a doctor to diagnose you and prescribe something?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    I did get an official depression diagnosis... by a PCP/ General Practicianer, not a psychaitrist.

    I was on Lexapro for a bit, then my emotions got out of control and I misused it... overdose on Lexapro... (in attempt to feel better, not really a suicide attempt), nothing really happened except I feel a bit weird and like... obviously I did not die. I did this several times... I told the doctor about these incidents, I was told to see an actual psychaitrist... so this is where I am right now...

    Idk who to trust lol

    Fun fact: My mom keeps blaming me for my "self harm" and she said it was my fault for overdosing.

    Hmm guess who was the one that set up this toxic home environment?

    But I can't even confront her about it... the power dynamic is so different... mom is always right about everything...

    This is just typical Chinese culture... nobody really understand mental health... it's just so stigmitized.

    You're either completely insane, or you're just lazy and "lying and faking it" to get out of responsibilities.

    I honestly have this morbid curiosity and wonder how my mom would feel if I actually kms.

    I wonder if she would actually feel bad about me dying.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I understand why you’d feel that way. As far as we know though it doesn’t look like you’d get to find out if she did or not. I suspect she would! Bad parenting can still be well intended with really poor execution.

    More importantly, I suspect others would miss you.

    And the main thing that has kept me un-un-aliving is the research showing how (1) those who attempt it, most often regret it and (2) that an objectively life-changing decision is being made on impulse. Think long term if you can friend.

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    There is nothing shocking about this. What is surprising is why the hell aren't local police not arresting their asses. ICE has shown they do not give a fuck about the well being of police officers and treat them like they are inferior. ICE is no match for the police department of any city.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    it's because the police support ice. acab

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    Not all cops bastards but too many cops are bastards

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I originally thought not ACAB, but until the "good cops" start arresting the "bad apples", corrupt, prepotent, wife beaters, drug traffickers, sleazy, etc. I will conclude ACAB.

    The only ones who get arrested are those who commit egregious offences that the public are aware of and leadership cannot swipe under the rug. And then the "Investigation" shows that there were already multiple reports of previous wrong doing and that their bosses and other cops already knew.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/elston-bostock-winnipeg-police-constable-pleads-guilty-dealing-drugs-9.7033645

    Was he the "bad apple" or was it the whole force which knew what he was doing?

    You'd need a police force with zero bad apples for me to believe that not ACAB.

    We need to accept that to really fix the situation.

    I grew up in mexico where corruption is endemic. One day, my mom was complaining about corruption pointing fingers. I told her that I left mexico because it's impossible to live there without being corrupt. That, if you give money to a corrupt police officer or any other bureaucrat you are corrupt, and most of the time it's not even a choice. If you didn't report wrong doing because "nothing will be done" you are corrupt.

    So, It's my observation that ACAB.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Just like all generalizations, there are of course exceptions. But I’m still not giving any of them the benefit of the doubt, cops are an enemy as far as I’m concenered.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    There aren't exceptions when the "good cops" are turning a blind eye on the "bad apples".

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I mean, I had an uncle who was a good guy. He ended up quitting the force and bought a boat to sail around the world. He was a decent one.

    There are always outliers, so I have no doubt there are some decent folks who joined to make an actual difference. There might even be a few who managed to hold onto that drive. But they are part of a corrupt system, peered with power hungry morons. So I have no compunction saying that all cops are bastards.

    Every group has outliers, it’s the sycophants who will always try to point out the minuscule good in the sea of evil as a means to whitewash the black stains. We aren’t stupid, we know that acab doesn’t mean every single cop walks I lockstep, it’s an observation of the system as a whole.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Trump recently said he wants the My Pillow guy as governor of Minnesota. Do you think maybe that he's trying to install him by inciting violence or something? He's definitely trying to get people to choose violence.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I hadn't heard about that, but upon reading your comment my immediate thought is that Trump is going to manufacture a pretext to arrest (i.e. kidnap) Governor Walz.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    I don't want to die but I cannot live like this.

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