Jfc how are people still talking about generations?
Exasperation, not a genuine question ^
Jfc how are people still talking about generations?
Exasperation, not a genuine question ^
I thought we were known for apathy since we were constantly told growing up that our generation was the first for whom things would be worse than our parents. I don't have a sneering distrust of everything, just cynicism towards massive, systemic injustice in the world.
sneering distrust of unions
sneering distrust of science
sneering distrust of socialism
sneering distrust of wikipedia
I'd say their sneering distrust of everything has brought us to where we are now.
South Park is a real grabbag, but they really hit the mark with Gen X yankees dismissing green energy and environmentalism for being "gay (pejorative)". You could update that same episode and only need to swap out the last line for "that sounds woke"
You can trust unions. They're there to make money and acting in your interest is acting in their best interest.
While you can trust science overall, there's a hell of a lot of capitalism in there, muddying the water. Well-reviewed studies are generally pretty safe.
There is nothing inherently trustworthy or untrustworthy about socialism; it's an economic and political philosophy that is only as trustworthy as the people implementing and operating within it.
You cannot trust anything on the internet, including Wikipedia or even this very post. There are actors with an agenda that can make every article better or worse. There is no verifiable truth, only facts through lenses, and Wiki, being a moderated system, is as fallible as anything else. Much like socialism, it is at least designed to make it more fair.
This would make sense if they didn't vote for the people promising to fuck it up worse. (US politics only, I don't know how generational breakdown goes in other countries)
No. And it may have contributed to the anti science and anti vaccine shit that has been floatung around. Just being a contrarian isnt helpful
They haven't just contributed, Genx is the anti-vaccine generation.
Boomers and silent generation remember what diseases were like and get their vaccines.
Millienals are more anti-vaccine than boomers or silent generation but far less than gen-x.
Gen-x has never held itself accountable. They are worse than boomers in so many ways and some of their stupid has leaked into the infected the thinking of millennial and even gen-z generations.
Blaming Millennial and Gen Z conservatives on Gen X alone is wild. How about we focus on the billionaire propaganda machines of social media and mainstream news. Zuckerberg is a millennial and his platforms have done more damage to teenage brains than we realize yet.
Absolutely critique people and people groups when they deserve it, but this whole generational obsession is exactly what those fucking us over want. Any place to blame but on them is good for them.
I literally said you're generation doesn't hold itself accountable and you're doing exactly that. Neat!
Fuck you as a Gen xer I resent you calling me anti vax. I am all for vaccination and all my kids are vaxed.
"Gen x is the antivax generation" literally means "gen x has a higher % of antivaxxers than other generations"
I haven't ever looked into this. But it got me curious so now I'm looking. I haven't seen one for vaccines in general yet, but I did find one study about generational differences in opinions on the covid vaccine in particular.
Interesting read, I'm still digesting the data. Seems like, compared to Gen z and millennials, Gen x was more in favor of the covid vax in this study.
Again, yes this is just about the covid vax, but there's probably a decent overlap in the groups
Covid-only will skew things massively. Disinformation wars really went to town on that one.
I'm just translating.
There was a skew to trump among gen x ers. But richer people tend to live longer so that's not an uncommon trend.
Imo, I would expect the antivaxxers to be more common in generations with school age kids because it is media-slop targeted at parents. I'd like to see the sources myself.
I didn't, so you can direct that fuck right back at yourself and your terrible reading comprehension.
Your generation is the anti vax movement. That doesn't mean everyone in the generation is anti vax.
Kind of hard to comprehend your language when you don't seem to know how it works.
You're inability to parse it is on you.
Your choice to attack and dimiss what I'm saying rather than seek clarification, also on you.
Anyone who cannot get over a few weird autocorrects is clearly not interested in discourse.
Your choice to attack
Have you ever heard the phrase "pot calling the kettle black"?
That was literally your first interaction with me in this thread.
I'm calling out Gen X for creating the anti vax movement. No one, including you has attempt to refute that fact.
Your first interaction with me was to question my ability to communicate. That is an attack on me, the messenger by the message.
It is ridiculous for anyone to claim I am attacking them personally for pointing out a characteristic of a group, even if it's a group they identify with.
It also shows a resistance to accountability which I also mentioned.
It's not hard to acknowledge these things are true while stating they do not apply to you personally but that's not what you or anyone else has done.
You choose to make it about me and continue to do so and will continue to do so because you choose to do so.
Cynicism, nihilism and distancing oneself from everything is not going to build anything good or allow others to succeed.
So no, not correct, not good, just a terrible mindset that will drag everyone down with you.
Gen X contrarianism is some stupid boomer shit. Its no wonder so many of them are divorced maga conspiracy morons now.
At least millennials trust in science.
Let me tell you about how watching the X-Files as a kid made me interested in science - AND the occult!
mostly made me interested in bigfoot. turns out my gran has a costume and her siblings all took turns borrowing it to use out at the cabin or whatever. put a little whimsy in the kids' lives. family lore is that bigfoot's name is larry.
So do genxers.....
You just don't have to be so smug about it, also Millennials have been trying to warn you fucks for years that your blasé attitude towards shit was going to fuck us over one day and look where we are.... Gen X fucking us over with the boomers.
and Gen Z is trending in their direction, we're fucked.
every generation except mine bad
Civilization peaked in 1999, what can I say. Disclaimer: I don't actually mean that, the 1990s were a lot more racist.
The Nazis are back. The late 90s weren't significantly more racist than today. Words were thrown around more. Fewer people had black bags thrown over their head before being deported to El Salvador.
That's right, we've made very little progress in 30 years. Some on the queer front, but not the LG part.
Since the 90s, the political left wing of the USA have stood up to private prisons and monied interests.
For a good example of the timeline of this change, in 1995 Joseph Biden passed a crime bill with a Crack to Powder Cocaine sentencing disparity of 40:1, which disproportionately impacted black communities. In 2003 he was among those who banned PAC money from politics (which wouId be overturned by Citizens United 7 years later). In 2009 he was Vice President to America's first black President. 2010 he was giving a speech in congress asking, begging even, for that sentencing disparity to be removed. In 2022 and 2023 he was pardoning THOUSANDS of marijuana convictions.
I think in the 90s both parties were moderately bad, but now we've got one who are fucking psychopaths but we also have one who can and will save us if we can give them the chance.
The openly nazi people are a society-wide extinction burst. In the 1990s they didn't need to be openly contrarian, because the consensus agreed with them.
A few years ago I believed that.
Now that the fascists have taken over...not so much anymore.
The OG fascism was also a result of similar circumstances. If you look at history reactionary movements always form in the response to civic progress, and for long term progress what matters is the progressive side keep fighting until the progress is fully internalised by society. This doesn't mean it won't get worse before it gets better.
Yeah, but the music was better.
But no, it was a lot more racist and homophobic.
I think every generation sucks in its own special way
Our youngest President (by a 15 year margin!) was Barack Obama who was a late Baby Boomer. If/when Trump does, Vance will become the first Millenial president.
Meanwhile in Congress, Gen X only this year achieved a plurality in the House at 41% (versus Boomers at 39% and Millenials at 15%). In the Senate, at 28% we’re still far behind the Boomers with their 61% and Millenials are far behind at only 5%.
I’m honestly appalled at how many of us Gen Xers broke for Trump (even more than Boomers), but with our smaller numbers (65 million vs 74 million Millenials), we weren’t enough to push him over the finish line alone.
Sorry my generation hasn’t done more to make the world a better place, but honestly we’re getting fucked more than we are doing the fucking.
GenX has never held any type of power, nor will they ever - not political, not economic, not financial. The Boomers were always like "Wait your turn", but they never bothered turning anything over regardless of what we fought for, or how hard.
And now the Millennials have come up on the other side. And I'm just so tired of fighting to make things happen, or even just to try to preserve things, that that's okay. I did what I could to make things better, and I'm happy for a less weary cohort to take over.
I have fought for over three decades. Never got anywhere. The more effort I put in, the less I eventually got back.
I'm out. Throwing in the towel. Not fighting more unwinnable battles only to then be slandered by the very people you fought to protect.
It's one big free for all since we lower class types seem to be fundamentally incapable of organising.
So, the new Silent Generation (which only got its first and only president in 2021)
Got any examples of millennials trying to warn us “fucks” for years?? Because I don’t recall any millennials I know trying to warn anyone any more than my generation was.
Additionally, I don’t recall ever having people prefix their discussions with:
“So, I’m a [generarion] and here’s my take!”
So I’d imagine you’d be hard-pressed to find any evidence what to support this claim.
And lastly stop with the us vs them bullshit. We don’t need to be divided any more than we already are. Generational behavior isn’t as prominent as you think.
Part of that attitude was that Gen X never had power. The Boomers have been clinging onto power since Gen X was in high school. Gen X could have fought for power, but would it really have changed anything?
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