to add another (german) brand: https://www.shift.eco/

I had the shiftphone6 back in 2018 and I believe it had an alternative OS installed, in any case I can't remember the google play store pre-installed (correct me if I'm wrong).

Wait what? Jolla? Not only does that company exist, they are also making phones again? Really wasn't expecting to see that name ever again.

I'll pick Jolla. I hope their new phone will be good.

I just wish there was a way to get the Fairphone in the U.S. I love the repairability aspect and I already use LineageOS as my main OS to keep my devices as long as possible. I also have access to a 3D printer to build accessories and parts for them too.

A good idea if you can't buy Euro is to buy used and flash LineageOS if your device is supported. I'm using a Pixel 4a 5G as my driver with LineageOS since I know how to repair it and I have easy access to parts for them. (Thanks to buying bulk parts from local offices near me that used them.)

I bought a fairphone 6 recently. It works as you would expect any phone to work with no noticeable downsides.

I paid extra to have /e/OS preinstalled. I could have bought the android version and upgraded it myself, but I wanted to support open source development. I want to try Ubuntu touch, but it hasn't been updated for the fairphone 6 yet.

I can't use any banking apps on /e/OS by default, but that's because the apps require google play services for "security". Enabling these services is possible, but would defeat the purpose of getting the phone to de-google. Bank websites still work, just slightly less convenient.

I dislike the case. It leaves more of the phone exposed than I would like. It does seem to protect the phone from most drops though.

I'm still disappointed by the lack of headphone jack, but I hate Google more.

I was surprised that my favourite feature became the hardware switch. I rebound it to the torch. For moments when you want a light for just a few seconds, it's so much more convenient.

I just want a dumbphone with a decent camera

Isn't HMD like Finnish

Unfortunately GrapheneOS only supports Pixels.

Hey Europe, what about you sign that partnership with Mercosul so I can buy you damn stuff without having to pay 100% taxes on the price to import?

I really want a FairPhone with e/os but can't justify buying a second phone hahaha

I have an iPhone that I use for my job - got it from my employer as well so it's basically a free phone. Personally, if it wasn't for my job, I'd delete all "social" media (IG and the likes), but it's the main part of my job (I work in online communications). Still would love a second, more privacy-based, personal phone, but doesn't feel like a possibility atm. Costs money as well!

If one of these phones runs GrapheneOS, I would be interested.

Let's not forget Crosscall. It's a french brand specializing in durable phones designed for outdoor.

Any of them run Linux or fully non-google android?

Fairphone has an atrocious update policy. They do not care for security.

I had a Fairphone 3, but ran into a lot of problems with the phone suddenly shutting down on its own. I hadn't fiddled with it at all, and I couldn't find much advice apart from "Try pulling it apart, cleaning it, and putting it back together again".

I really love the concept though, but I'm worried my bank and government identification won't work on Fairphone now.

does anybody have experience with the Jolla C2 Community Phone?

the price is listed as 285€, which is about the maximum i'd be willing to pay for a phone. does the device work well? does it run smoothly? does the OS work well enough? (it's some custom linux-based OS with android app compatibility, they write on their website)

Which has the best camera?

Is there any non google or apple phone projection functionality for cars? Or contactless payment platform?

These a big barriers, I did want the the nothing phone but the reviews were a bit off.

the only problem I have is that I cannot install my banking app 🫤

Nokia is still finish right?

Shiftphone is a German alternative to Fairphone

I have a nothing phone 3 and very happy with it, it does everything you really want a smartphone to do, and looks stylish (imo) and has a really slick UI.

Downsides are camera is not good in low light and they push the AI stuff too hard.

And I'm not sure it quite justified the price tags when comparing it to Chinese or Samsung phones at a similar spec, but it's not way off and for me was easy to justify a slightly higher price tag for a British based design company and better repairability/rights as well as some cool features and looks.

But the price point is the one thing all these 3rd party phones suffer from, you either have to make a proper budget phone, or try and make a flagship, but will cost 20% more than a Samsung because of scale costs.

Thanks to this post I bought Nothing Phone 3. Awesome. Thanks!

I didn't realise it was European, but I bought a Nothing mainly because it was one of the few options with an unlockable bootloader. I'm going stock this time, but at least I'll have the option to unlock it if I change my mind later.

Volla Quintus best!