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[–] 140 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

I offer setting up adblocking to friends and they’re like no im alright thanks WTF.

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  • [–] 99 points 10 months ago (17 children)

    The one weird thing that everyone seems to just accept is smart tvs with ads. I use my smart tv for many things, but disconnected from the internet and hooked into a little entertainment Linux machine that does all the processing. I can’t fathom taking the raw experience.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Getting my wife and kids on board and trained on this is a feat I’m just not talented to pull off.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Buy an Onn / Thomson box, set it to apps only mode, and there you are. They're Google TV so Netflix is just as easy to use on it as on the TV itself, and as Google TV is Android based you can sideload whatever apps you want, copyright law compliant be damned.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    The DRM on Netflix and other streaming sites makes the quality noticeably worse on other devices, even locked down ones like the PS5. On Firefox on Linux the quality is locked even lower, to like 720p.

    The ads bother me, but my girlfriend says TVs have always had ads since they were originally created. She isn't wrong. I see the distinction between the channel playing the ad and the device playing the ad, but I can kinda understand people not knowing or caring about that difference.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    I bought a micro PC and use that to stream Plex and other Internet media directly to my TV. I don't connect the TV itself to the Internet and I don't have cable or public access TV. I can block all ads with my micro PC and home network.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

    Consumers are lazy and brain rotted, too much effort to build an htpc or do anything that protect yourselfs and your family's data when the TV can just do it all for you, who cares that it's a literal piece of spyware ad riddled garbage.

    I guess I shouldn't be blaming the consumer here, since it's obviously the predatory capitalist company at fault. But still, I think most people are fucking dumb.

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    “…too much effort to build an htpc or do anything that protect yourselfs and your family's data…”

    So you change your own oil and do your own brakes, right? Cook all your meals, mow your lawn yourself, hand wash your dishes, and compost your food scraps?

    No?

    You’re just lazy and brain rotted; it’s too much effort for you to do those things.

    (The point is the normal person has no idea and no interest in building a Home Theater PC (HTPC) nor in maintaining one, and I get that. Most people don’t brew their own beer, if it can/will come out superior to what’s in the store. Please just want to come home, sit down, and turn on something that works.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    The only thing you got me on there is making all my own food, which I also try to do when I have time. Everything else, yes, I do myself.

    Why would I pay somebody money to do a shittier job than I can do.

    But yes, I realized my original comment was a little insensitive and rude because I'm just sort of an asshole. So sorry about that.

    As another commenter pointed out, I do have a good amount of privilege that allows me to do this stuff, and I'm thankful for that and should work on being less of a jerk.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Bought a Samsung last year. Never connected it to a non existent Samsung account. Network connected to it has adguard. And the TV is only used for streaming apps (jellyfin, Netflix etc.) Never saw an ad.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    You can just cast from your phone anyway. Dunno why more people don't do that..

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    That defeats the purpose of my setup, personally, as it invites more ads and targeting rather than less. Two routers going for data transfer was an option I considered, as I don’t know how to connect a smart tv to a router without allowing it to access the internet otherwise, but it’s not as wholistic.

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  • [–] 162 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    And connect on Facebook and Twitter. And tap "yes" would you like the app to track you and personalize ads. And buy things through tiktok.

    We are the odd ones I guess

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I’ve just put the batteries in a toy a relative bought from TikTok. It’s some drawing pad where you draw on it then press a button and your drawing’s supposed to glow. It’s a total piece of shit, the drawing barely glows and it takes ages to clean. It’ll probably go in the bin tomorrow, I’ve already warned my wife to take the batteries out first.

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  • [–] 46 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I'd say we're the ones that know how to use adblockers and know where and how to shop online.

    Not odd, just not sheep.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    id say thats generous by which I mean we're all of us sheep to a certain extent

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  • [–] 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    And with ads baked into windows, you're paying for them.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I installed Linux Mint dual boot on my main PC with Win10 over the holidays.  I will not take the ads and ai BS on Win11.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    dual boot of windows + linux is known to have issues IIRC

    because windows "repairs" the bootloader on each time it's used, so linux becomes disabled.

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  • [–] 36 points 10 months ago

    This is part of the reason they don’t want you to own your own computer anymore.

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  • [–] 34 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Not just pc's. More and more electronics are going that way. Two weeks ago I was at a friend and they activated their Google TV for the first time. Bam first thing you see is ads for Amazon prime. They didn't bat an eye even though they just paid €80 to be shown ads in their living room. It's only going to get worse. We really need to grow the community to open source firmware for all electronics. (not just because of the ads tho)

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    God, the modern Google TV launcher is so fucking ass. Ads every fucking where.
    Last week I was setting up my box and the first thing it showed me was a Netflix ad that I think contained spoilers for Squid Game??? (I don't watch that show but it looked like a serious spoiler)

    Get your friend Projectivity Launcher.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They probably don't care enough. I've talked about blocking YouTube ads before and they zoned out after exactly 2 seconds. So I'm not going to bother.

    I use flauncher myself, but i will check projectivity launcher out sometime.

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago

    Cursed timeline…

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I visited someone with a 5 year old child recently and they were watching minecraft videos (specifically for child audiences) with 2 min ads every 10 min, that cant be good

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It's bad on multiple levels. Like 99% of the "for kids" stuff on YouTube is total brain rot with no educational value whatsoever. Then a barrage of totally not targeted ads beamed straight into the kids face.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Seriously. When I was a kid, people said that tv would rot your brain. But at least TV required you to actively engage with it. Even kids shows have a plot, a coherent story with a beginning, middle, and end. You have to actively watch, consider what’s happening, and engage with it. You have to use your mind, even if just binging soap operas. Putting your kid in front of a stream of shorts is like having them watch a large array of randomly blinking lights. There’s no content. No thought. No processing. No development of any kind can come from that.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Yup, I know several other parents that blindly trust the algorithms because their experience with TV wasn't too bad. They fail to realize they're basically giving their kids digital crack.

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    I think most of the population has simply been conditioned to accept and even expect advertisements to be a normal part of everyday life.

    Maybe it's a situation where ignorance is bliss, to not have ads pull your attention away from what you're doing, and not feel like they are violating your personal space and resources.

    But that's also part of living modern life on auto pilot like The Shareholders prefer. Work, consume, engage with content, repeat!

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I go out of my way to get my all of my gas from one specific station that doesn't have advertisements on their pumps.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    If I were you, I would find who owns that gas station. Then hand write an actual physical letter and mail it to them, explaining why you only get gas at their station. That could make enough impression that when that station's owner is tempted to put in ads, they'll remember you. Maybe that will be enough to get them to not follow the crowd and to keep their pumps ad-free.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I love it, and now that you've said that I am going to be keeping mental notes to see if I have such an option. Fortunately, buying gasoline is a pretty infrequent thing for me.

    I would also love to know where that habit lands you in the greater population's percentiles when it comes to avoiding advertising. I assume most people reading our comments are already the 1% because it's Lemmy, lol. (my usual is Linux + LibreWolf + ublock origin at both home and work)

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Personally, I am likely within a very small percentile of people when it comes to be privacy aware. I use Linux + Librewolf, but also self host Searxng and have it do all my internet searches through Mulvad, I host my own recursive DNS server, and various other things that most people wouldn't even know are an option.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I only pirate. And play it on raspberry pi, libre elec and dumb tv. I never see commercials.

    It amazes me that anybody can stand that filth for even a second.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Nice. Jellyfin fan here.

    Sometimes it's like I'm living a double life because I'm married to a normie and we're active in the local community where normies of course abound. I got my piracy over here, and I pay for a couple streaming services over there as long as they actually get used, but I still take steps to keep ads away.

    It's wild when my wife will just turn on the radio in the car when her phone isn't connected properly, or throw on some live TV stream (whether pirated or a plan somebody shared with us), and it will play minute after minute of ads that don't bother her.

    On the car radio it usually doesn't take long before some annoying local dealership ad comes on that repeats the same loud annoying crap they did 20 years ago and I have to turn it off.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I just listen to the main public broadcast radio station in my car. Ads? Only for the album of the week and their own programmes. Usually a few seconds to mention something and very infrequent.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Seeing people click and sit through minutes of insanely obnoxious ads feels so dystopian to me

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  • [–] 74 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Personally I don't fundamentally despise the concept of advertising. I think it's acceptable for people and companies to share information about a potentially great product or service that they're offering, on reasonable terms.

    The main problem for me is: advertising went too far and abandoned most safeguards. Advertising in 2025 is essentially manipulation and brain washing. Most ads don't give you any information about a product or service whatsoever. Just some celebrity saying it's great. What is this supposed to accomplish if not manipulating people into mindlessly paying for a thing they know nothing about?

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago

    I believe all advertising exists to manipulate people. Behaviour change is a key aspect of marketing, from how things are kept at a store shelf, to putting the right hoarding on the right street, it's all done to guide consumer choice in a profitable way.

    Advertising was never about giving you information, it was to make you feel cigarettes are cool or you need an more expensive toothbrush to be more confident. Advertising moved away from giving you information to 'connecting with consumers on an emotional level' decades before the Internet.

    While yes information age has made advertising a lot more effective than it was 25 years ago, but brands were still trying to get you get the most money out of you back then, same as today, only their tools of doing so have improved vastly.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    Exactly. I'd be much more ok with a standardised block of text and maybe a picture. No music, no animation, basic machine voiceover if any audio.

    My favourite advertisements (the ones I'm most ok with) are podcast ad reads, because they never gave music or sound effects or crass images, it's just the voice making the podcast reading some text. And they're personalised based on the context of the podcast, no personal information needed.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It's ultra-processed!

    Jon Stewart made a point in some video not too long ago about how modern media presents us with a constant drip of ultra-processed speech and how it manipulates and harms our brains for our short-term gratification but the long-term benefit of others who don't give a shit about us. It is much like engineered ultra-processed food in that way.

    Thinking of advertising through that lens, hell that industry has been at the bleeding edge of all kinds of manipulation and shady data gathering for decades! Ultra-processed speech and ultra-processed advertising are basically a package deal!

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I don't know if this refers to politics, but in general, what politicians, and I mean all politicians do where they refer to their opponents and topics consistently with specific words meant to elucidate specific emotions is stomach-turning. And yeah, you're right, it's not only politicians, but corporations, newspapers and basically all PR orgs doing the same.

    It's not a layoff, it's a reorg. It's not in-person attendance requirements, it's an inevitable "return to office". And so on, so forth.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    It's never sharing information about a great new product unless it's a scam. It's always scams or large companies screaming how their 2026 version really is superior somehow to their 2025 product and how competitors somehow suck

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I won't even wear clothing that overtly displays a brand name

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    One time I was talking to a guy and noticed he was wearing Nike everything. So as a joke, I said, "Jeez, you wear so much Nike, they should pay you." And he said they do.

    And then he told me how he works at Nike. And he gets a lot of free stuff.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    I gave my mother one of my old thinkpads I used to use at school, and on setting up her account (fydeOS btw, since it’s perfect for what she uses computers for), I installed an adblocker so she doesn’t see those scam supplement ads she was always convinced were factual, and it’s worked flawlessly.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    I view advertisements as attacks on my consciousness. Advertisers are my adversaries, and I do whatever I can to defend myself from them.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They allow their fridges to show advertisements

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    If you want to show me a youtube video and a fuckin ad starts playing, we gon have problems

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    There have been some times where all my efforts failed and YouTube still showed me an ad. I realised that i'd rather not watch the video than the ad.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    If I can't skip a video ad, and I really want to see the content, I simply make note of the advertiser and never buy anything from them.

    I've switched insurance companies because the one I had was wasting my time advertising to me.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Oh that's a good principle in gonna adopt

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I think of it that advertising costs money, and that gets passed on to the consumer. So the bigger the advertising budget the higher the final price.

    Word of mouth is free.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Ads on a website? Unlock minus

    Ads on your computer? That's not YOUR computer. Install Linux and get your computer back

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    oof reminds me of my aunt's computer, stuff was popping from all over the screen. Combined with the fact that it was an old laptop with low RAM, it was a total nightmare to use

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Use wireguard to stay on your home network.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I think adblock software is generally the first step before Wireguard for most people.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    Wait until you see the clothing most people wear... and what they dress thier kids in. They even pay for the privilege.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I opened brave yesterday and I saw two ads on YouTube. What is happening? Is something broken or have I been betrayed?

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    Brave is based off chromium. You're going to get ads. Chromium blocked most adblocker from functioning properly. Theirs a reason why chromium browser's only have ublock lite. Not ublock origin. Use librewolf or any of the other non-chromium browsers or firefox forks.

    Also brave is trash and ran by an egotistical, homophobic bigot https://vger.to/sh.itjust.works/post/52290131

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I literally almost never meet someone that use adblockers

    (except like 1 person)

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    i just thought about it - and i never met anyone who doesn't use adblockers. and i worked in adtech company that literally does that shit.

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