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[+] 69 points 10 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 103 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    There's still hope, I just recently bought a home just after turning 40. You just need to put a ton of money into savings, go bankrupt paying medical bills after something bad happens to your spouse, spend 7 years in borderline poverty, and then have one of your parents die the same month they retire and collect their retirement fund.

    I hate that the best thing my father ever gave me was his pension.

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  • [–] 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Calling my pops now. Letting him know the plan.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    Slightly better than my path.

    I bought a house this year, also age 40. To get there, I took a job with a large soulless corporation that is slowly destroying all of us, and then borrowed against all my retirement to get my down payment money.

    I just keep saying, “At least I have a house…”

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Hey now, I banked $30K in cash and bought a house, all I had to do was have a heart attack, open heart surgery, and move to 100% work from home. 😉

    3 years after I stopped driving to the office, paying $21 a day to park, and eating out all the damn time... boom! $30K in the bank!

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I'm glad I bought my house when interest rates were just barely above 3%. I couldn't afford my home if I had to buy it today.

    This fucking economy sucks and we need to start removing everyone in power forcefully until the problems go away. Then start again.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago

    at this point they're just rubbing it in

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago*

    Yeah. This has been true for basically my entire adult life. Graduated high school in '02 into a job market still fucked from the dotcom crash, got my theater career into gear, destroyed utterly by the GFC. Went from construction to pest control as I was looking for more recession proof work, was a season away from getting my ACE certification... Destroyed by covid-19.

    If this was it, I probably could maybe at least have a shot, but then I quit nicotine, fell while feeling sick and dizzy from withdrawal and got a TBI.

    I'll be lucky if I get to continue living in anything remotely as nice as this little apartment I'm in with my brother.

    Honestly, almost never had a shot anyway, even without my personal issues.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    airbnb, and corporate landlords(blackstone/rock) are the blame. plus the low wages of many fields too.

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    [–] 20 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    In 2018 I bought a $30000 condo through fannie may, in a really bad part of the city. It wasn't great, but I had the basic necessities, utilities, bath and bed. Property taxes were under $500 per year. The down side was that I couldn't just ask people to come over, I had to always watch out for people who were watching me. I had someone let out a burst of bullets outside my bedroom window on easter morning 6am. A car alarm with the level sensor saved me tons of money. It wasn't the greatest but if we're talking about survival and living in an RV is outlawed, then gentrification is the next option.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Shit I live in a relatively nice part of the city and we still get occasional bursts of gunfire a few times per year. That's just part of the American dream.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    I live in this weird little cut of houses tucked in the woods but between three different neighborhoods in the city. One day I was raking leaves and found a loaded Glock with an extended mag someone must've just chucked at my house.

    It was actually in pretty decent shape but no way am I keeping a potentially hot gun.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I would live in a nice sized RV if any fucking city in america woyld let you park the thing. Cities hate RVs

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    So if younger generations have less and less capital with which to enter the housing market, then where does the value appreciation come from I wonder?

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    House flippers keep buying houses, painting shit white, then selling it to another flipper for 100k more than they bought it for

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    Am 43. Owned a falling-apart trailer for two years til it leaked enough carbon monoxide to almost kill me. Couldn't afford maintenance. I have one Aunt left to live with and when she passes I'm expecting to be homeless again. I'll never afford my own home. Yes, I've looked up "assistance" for disabled and therefore low income ppl in my area, and many other areas as well bc I'd move for a home again in a heartbeat, but that stuff simply isn't funded anymore. I feel like I've been moving from one family to another who will temporarily adopt me for the last 15 years.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Seriously got lucky by inheriting one. It sucks thinking about anyone to afford one out the pockets.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, we've decided that we're just gonna pick a house we like and move in. If someone lives there, they can live under it. Got 64 more layers til bedrock, right?

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    At least almost dead people are getting a tons of money to give to they spoiled grandchild wante into unnecessary stuff

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Mainly the issue is not being able to afford a house, but being able to afford a house close to civilization.
    There's plenty of houses to buy for 5 000 € or less but in places where the closest store is 100 km or more away.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Holy shit in the US a one room shack 100km from civilization would be like $80000 plus.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    I'd love to buy a home

    I just can't do it any time soon due to ballooning prices where I currently live

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    i'm not sure i ever held out hope of owning my own home.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    why is anyone paying these experts?

    this is ketchup research levels of fuckery

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I just bought the cheapest house that was bearable to live in. It was $40k cash.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It's very hard to find single-family dwellings that are small enough to be cheap enough...

    Where is this 40K house? Does it need 100K in repairs?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I haven't seen 40k, but at least near me, if you're willing to live way out in the country there's still a few around the 60k to 70k range.

    The tricky part is finding a house like that AND finding a job in the area. Remote work would be spotty if you are relying on satellite internet

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (5 children)
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    the casino is honestly pretty easy to pull from once you know how it works, easiest $ i'v ever made.

    especially a raging bull market like this...after i figured it out, have made more in the last 3 months than i made working honestly the last 6-7 years. and i'm not even doing the real risky stuff like shorting

    that's where all these rich fucks put their ratfucked money from uncle sam...crashes like the one the wolves are building to now represent the best shot most plebs have at grabbing any serious amount of wealth for themselves.

    the game is rigged, keeping your chin high and playing fair only insures you stay poor, unempowered, and eventually disillusioned.

    Reminiscences of a Stock Operator (written over a century ago) is a pretty good primer for anyone who wants to see just how this all works. wallstreet and bankstreet never changes, it just occasionally rebrands.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    I have so much debt that I'm certain this regime will fuck up and make it worse for me, there's little recourse to getting assistance with any sort of other debt. I keep trying to save but shit.keeps.breaking. I'll never own a home, never retire, I barely have a comfortable life. Tell me what I'm not doing what those intrusive thoughts are telling to do again?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    declare bankruptcy, that's what it's for

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    It doesn't clear student loan debt, I have to have a level of hardship I don't have. I'm able to pay my debts but I'm left with little afterwards. It's a crummy catch 22 system overall and bankruptcy isn't a magical get out of debt want. It hampers you in the new red lining they call "Credit Score."

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

    ooooooh, yeah....for studen loan debt i recommend just paying the absolute legal minimum to keep it from any sort of collections/default status (which, last i checked was like 50-100$/month?), then pretending the rest doesn't exist.

    eventually, either a sane government comes into power and clears all actively paying debts for an easy voter-support win, or the USA collapses entirely into a MAGA-amerikkka paradise and we probably have a 2nd civil war...either way not your problem

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Nope, they killed the SAVE act so it's gone up significantly from under that. If you don't meet minimum payments it's considered defaulting and you can bet this regime will be aggressive in collecting that money.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    They're already talking about garnishing wages.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Is it possible to take out another loan and use that to pay off the student loan, then declare bankruptcy for that new loan? I’m sure there must be a rule against this, I can’t be the first to think of it.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    That's okay, people like Vince Zampella still get their Ferraris to crash into walls at 100mph,

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    At this point it's easier to join a movement to tax private ownership of essentials, than saving for a home

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Us Millennials sure do love destroying industries by non-participation such as... lemme check my notes here... housing. Pack it in, chaps, another job well done.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Older than millennials and accepted that I'll never own a home. This is despite having money. Not where we want to live, anyway.

    We could swing it if we accepted living in a shithole like Utah, but then I'd hate my life.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I'm a millennial homeowner and the only way I managed to do so was after getting a toehold in a cheaper market.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    I'm a millennial with a house but no retirement savings, and the WSJ tells me the average millennial has over $1m in retirement assets now, so fuck y'all and your privilege. (I'm just kidding, I know you're poor too)

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Love all those articles that are like "By 30 you should be saving and have this much for retirement by now..."

    Like lol the car made a funny noise, $100 doesn't even hope to fill a grocery cart, and we're enjoying yet another "unprecedented" planned financial crisis in our lifetimes, what do you want from me here.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Is that the median or mean average? The worse that inequality is the more it distorts mean averages and the less it tells you about the majority.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Can't imagine why

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I have almost 200k put away and it isn’t enough.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    EU has countries where 200 is sufficient for a good house. Government is a bit better too.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Costa Rica will give you an immediate permanent residency if you bring that capital over to them. But please for the love of god learn Spanish and embrace their culture if you move. That country is remarkable and it needs to stay that way.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    This is news! 15 years ago.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    But but 50 year mortgages. Pounce now and you can own by 90

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Special news report coming in: Water is indeed wet.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    what would marx do?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I have a suggestion.

    TLDR: High density, owned housing, professional management, restrictions on owning other properties.

    To avoid HOAs misusing funds, allow people to own, and build high density: build apartments for sale, to be managed by corporation. Corp is funded by reasonable fees set before construction as a percentage of value of property. Apartment owners can vote to fire incompetent managers, otherwise, managers are free to choose how to effectively run complex. Salary is fixed.

    To encourage a builder to take on the project, we have 20-50 people sign up to buy apartments. They have to put down a refundable deposit of $100 to get on the list, and $5000 to the builder (applies to down payment) when building starts.

    Deed restrictions, created before breaking ground, prohibit ownership of an apartment by:

    1. any corporation

    2. any individual that owns another home or is on a corp that owns rental properties (excludes REITs if shares owned is below 5% market cap)

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago

    what would mao do?

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    I bought mine when I was 27. Not a big house but house nevertheless. Didn't want to live in an apartment anymore. Anything is better than that.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I saved up 10k in 6 months towards a house. Saw house prices go up 50k during that same time. Said fuck it and started renting

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    How much money did your parents give for the down payment?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    None but they backed the loan.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I have perfect credit history and never missed a single payment. Nobody in my family would even co-sign for a car. Consider yourself very lucky

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I consider myself immensely lucky. Sometimes it feels like my entire life has been nothing but a continuous streak of good luck - almost to the point of me foolishly counting on it happening again. I can't explain it, but I'm thankful, and I'm under no illusion that any of it is my own making. Even the fact of having had a good childhood and parents who are still together at +65 years old is so valuable and increasingly rare nowadays.

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago

    work from home and move out into the forest peeps. buy a mobile home and your own land. get a camper first if needed and then save up to put the mobile home or build a actual block home. pay off your loans and credit cards. get an emergency fund. pay off your house loans. save for retirement. $$$$

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