A new leak claims that a Half-Life 3 announcement might have been delayed due to the Steam Machine price. According to the insider, Valve is still trying to determine the console’s cost due to skyrocketing hardware component prices, such as RAM.

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[–] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 164 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Half-Life 3 being ruines by tech bros wasn't in my bingo card but I'm not surprised at this point.

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  • [–] 107 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    if valve is waiting for ram price to come down then steam machine won't be released until 2028....

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    It won't ever be released, prices are never coming back down

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  • [–] [S] 32 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    Lets have hope, if the AI bubble bursts prices will go down.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The US government has a financial vested interest in the AI bubble. They will artificially keep the bubble going. The AI bubble collapses when American society and government collapses.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    Are they using the same ICs in the AI modules as they are in DIMMs?

    If yes, then we can still hope for some level of a 2nd hand market, which may at least manage to be lower than the max at that point.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Not the same chips, but ddr5, gddr7, and hbm2 are made off the same wafers in the same plants. The issue is allocation in wafer and production time skewing towards the higher-margin items. DDR5 additionally is being made more into the server ecc variant, which companies are buying in droves for cost-efficient MOE inference.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Well, the server ECC variant is still pretty useful for desktop workloads. Just make sure AMD always supports it in the next generations. If it's still a DIMM, then it can be sold right away.

    GDDR7, again, if the chip has the required pins as in GPUs, then GPU manufacturers can simply buy them, test them for a few hours maybe, and pop them in their lineups with a bit of re-calculation of traces (in case the exact pinout differs). Of course you get some re-soldering damage, but there's not much you can do about it. On the other hand, if the GDDR7 is in GPUs already, most the companies would require is to alter the firmwares a bit and sell refurbished units.

    HBM2. Seems like it is possible to get slottable modules with HBM2. Pretty sure some industrious people in China will find a good use for them. Perhaps with RISC V processors?
    And the AI specialised units shouldn't be fully useless either. Remember the cancer studies case?
    It is still useful computing ability that can be used well by those who know how.

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  • [+] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)
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    Nah, it'd bring prices crashing down as the market gets flooded with all the used hardware from the AI data centers being cleared out and auctioned off in bulk lots by bankruptcy courts and debt collectors, leading people to buy them by the truck loads and put on ebay for pennies on the original retail dollar.

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  • [–] 51 points 10 months ago

    Game journalists need to hit a quota; quick, start a HL3 rumor for clicks!

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  • [–] 91 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Never thought I would be expressing accelerationist views but rn I just want the crash to happen. AI is bullshit and the sooner everyone realizes that the better.

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Programmer buddy of mine was telling me their theory that AI is the last hurrah of Big Tech and Venture Capital, shifting a patient that has been in place since most of us were children.

    Even after the Dot Bomb area is the 2000's, FinTech taking it in the chin in the 2008 global financial crisis, three meaningful Crypto rises and falls, and now AI, there's always been some new for train to institute and sell to the retail investor and the general public.

    The beleaguered finances of middle classes pretty much everywhere, hand in hand with the deleted brain trusts from AI making us really dumb and unconfident (or falsely confident), convinced with the lack of new productivity borne from these last few market cycles (AI and Crypto not actually doing much for the majority of humans commensurate with the hype) results in a possible chance for actual market accountability and seeing only genuine market growth.

    I think that megacrash and the world waking up to the marketing machine is considerably less likely, but agree with them (given their best experience in FinTech) that it might meaningfully end our collective beliefs that Silicon Valley can steer everyone towards brighter shores.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I don't remember where I heard it, but a phrase I quite like is "AI is the death drive of capitalism"

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    They think there's nothing else left so yes its the death throes of capitalism.

    How about actually building good devices again? Devices we actually own that arent filled with spyware, and that are repairable and moddable by us. Or good software/os's. This is the problem with capitalism. It does not breed innovation.

    But no. You'll own nothing and be happy. The ruling class cannot let us own anything ever again.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Please Gabe sell a special edition orange one for half life 3.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Yeah and it'd be cool if they threw in a couple other games to show its versatility. HL3 of course, but a multiplayer game and maybe a unique puzzle game would be a good mix of game types.

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  • [–] 61 points 10 months ago

    Oh yeah, hardware prices are what's preventing HL3 from coming out. Sure.

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago*

    Just gonna quote what I said last time, applies here too

    THIS JUST IN: Person says thing, gives no evidence.

    We'll be back at 11 for your evening updates!

    https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/18300304

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    [–] 62 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    yes of course. HL3 is being delayed because something in the future is exploding backwards through time and fucking everything up. This is the only explanation I choose to accept.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    A few weeks ago journalists said that complete systems will not be affected short term because OEMs order RAM and SSDs a year in advance.

    So what is it?

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    It is a Vice article. It has the journalistic credibility of a dirty wet wipe.

    Edit: Lol, the source is an off the cuff remark of Mike Straw on a podcast. The same Dude has been teasing this news of an alleged leak since November and produced not a single shred of evidence while being an asshat on xitter about it at the same time. This is not the first time this guy speculates over future games and is taken out of context by fans.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago*

    You won’t be able to order the next batch unless you charge the increase in the first as you won’t have the funds.

    Just because a journalist says something doesn’t mean it’s even remotely true.

    Basic economics.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    It'll depend on the futures contracts. They'll have price clauses and, get-out clauses , resale clauses and stuff, so it'll come down to lawyering.

    It's unlikely that journos know the contract details. Buy clearly any OEM without a futures contract already in place does not have access to low prices.

    And any OEM with cheap stock and contractual freedom to resell would seriously consider parting out and selling off stock at the windfall price.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    So that's why it takes so long.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    Give it another week and the ram for the steam machine will cost more than the whole steam machine the day it was announced.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago

    Pic or it never happened.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Bundle it with Star Citizen

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    Hopium administrated

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    My default assumption at this point is that HL3 is not real, and this is all a cope.

    Nice

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    Hopium administered

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    [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Lol, half-life 3...the end really must be near!!!

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Why bundle HL3 as launch title? Feels a bit too much to develop the most memed game ever + trying to figure out the logistics of 3 new hardware products at the same time. People won’t exactly rush to buy Steam Machine for HL3 if they already have a decent PC.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    Half life 3 won't happen.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    This is just straight cope. HL3 isn't coming out anytime soon.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I'm confused, was there any expectation it would that I missed? As far as I know half life is dead. They never even finished episode 3 of half life 2 from like two decades ago.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago*

    Half-Life Alyx proves it's not totally dead. It even retconned an important plot point, which would make sense to do if they're planning to continue the story in some way.

    There are persistent rumors that Valve is planning to release it alongside the Steam Machine.

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    It is kind of funny how the title says one thing, and then the very next sentence says loljk, just the announcement, which has obviously zero things in common with development.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Don't get my hopes up, especially if what they eventually release is in Duke Nukem Forever quality.

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    [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    I’m ready to be hurt again.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    HL3 announcement before GTA VI release?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    So the leaks were always bullshit.

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    Who cares about HL3 at this point. Fuck Valve.

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