[–] 1 point 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You're presumably in the usa - a two party "democracy". Which should answer your second question. I.e. that people vote strategically. Cus u asked for a "massive left vote"

Edit: oh yes you asked for an alternative. The sink is clogged, we need to fix it. But the bucket works, what is your alternative?!?!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    See any votes against putin in Russia? 🤷 A broken democracy isn't going to give you any reliable results. People vote "stategically" to support the system - not true to what they want or think is best. Hell the US has such a crazy anti-protest vote culture at least online here that it should count as yet another indication that it's brokem

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 child)

    This protest led to the educational minister leaving, a huge budget increase in education sector and rehiring several thousand teachers

    Here's a decent winipedia site on this protest, feel free to follow links to other protests that have happened.

    Sure it might not give us Macron's head on a pole - and no revolution - but concrete protests have lead to concrete results.

    Edit: I must have misheard, at least can't find that the education minister left? So check out article for any results of protests sry 😅

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 week ago

    oh yea, then I get your point and pretty much same page :') I think you're spot on in that the violent and non-violent group have been seperate before - but in semi-democracies a lot of political parties can align with parts of protester demands - or we can get parties formed from protest movements like the student-group in serbia this year.

    I do have the hope that we can create a non-violent, just system - I don't think we should give up on trying even if we've yet to succeed! :)

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The point is that no change happens in an unjust system without violence or threats of violence? I seem to get the impression you agree with me now, or that you claim that nonviolent or violent action both cause no change.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Ah yes, Macrons retirement age. The one he had to push through - killing his reputation and any future election. The whole problem with protesting is that peaceful protests don't do shit without any threat of violence. It might not do anything but Ghandi was the option the powerful aligned with due to more radical violent options being there.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_French_pension_reform_law this and the linked wiki articles are decent coverage. It should also be said that this is the 3rd time the pension age was attempted to be raised in france, so third time's the charm for killing your voterbase.

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