Gotta point out that the french protests, while they are in general for everyone that doesn't mean it's not extremely partisan and divided. It's just we all know Macron is absolute trash 🤷

Picture from 2026 autumn french protests. Yellowshirt 2.

Caption "this could be us, but we're too busy fighting each other instead of the corrupt system"
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[–] 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child)

The point is the system is unjust and violent and everytime violence is used to overthrow it we just recreate another violent system.

I agree with your charactization of change in how the wealthy will often side with the nonviolent side of progressives/radicals because to them they are the lesser of evils. We have seen this play out several times. In this scenario, it is important that the violent group is separated from the nonviolent group. If the nonviolent group is associated with the violence it will typically fail to co-opt the wealthy.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 week ago

    oh yea, then I get your point and pretty much same page :') I think you're spot on in that the violent and non-violent group have been seperate before - but in semi-democracies a lot of political parties can align with parts of protester demands - or we can get parties formed from protest movements like the student-group in serbia this year.

    I do have the hope that we can create a non-violent, just system - I don't think we should give up on trying even if we've yet to succeed! :)

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