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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

Excuse me sir! The ad is working, look at all the comments! Oh you wanted to sell cars! Sell! Ah I see. Okay, well give us a few minutes, we'll correct this problem...

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  • [–] 137 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    There's a lot more to unpack here then it being a car ad.

    "old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in" is a completely foreign concept in modern society.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    On the part of the company as well.

    If your customer's kids go to college, they'll grow up to earn more money that they can spend on pointless expensive cars in the future.

    But we need to chop down that tree for firewood. Not because they're cold, but because they like a nice pile of firewood.

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  • [–] 200 points 1 year ago (11 children)
  • [–] 220 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    On the contrary, this speaks directly to their target audience

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  • [–] 121 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Fry: Sorry, I'm not here to buy.

    Car Dealer: I understand, and it's wonderful that you don't care whether anyone questions your sexual orientation.

    Fry: I care! I care plenty! But I just don't know how to make them stop!

    Car Dealer: One word: Thundercougarfalconbird.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    What sharp wit those writers had. Futurama will never leave my cadre of favorite TV shows.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That was the most OP writing team ever

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Didn't they have multiple doctorates on that team? Like north of double digits despite there only being like 20 writers total?

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Boomers and GenX whose parents paid for their college.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There's so many depressing layers to that joke. Like a sad, sad capitalist onion laughing at its own rotting core.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If my dad was an advertisement.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sure he didn't want to help his children with college, but strangers are going to notice him more due to the car he's driving and you can't put a price on that.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I just everyone driving a (at least a new) muscle car, fairly or unfairly be-damned. It shows you waste your money and care more about appearing "cool" above many other things. Either that or you're insanely rich which also makes you a bad person. People in mustangs and corvettes are always the one putting the pedal to the floor to get to the next stop light. Fucking moron assholes.

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    [–] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Education shouldn't cast a sports car.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Wiggles fingers over math textbook

    "I CAST... SPORTS CAR!!!"

    Points ruler at the PA system

    Tate Mcrae plays over the PA

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago*

    Crazy how college is so expensive in the US that your parents gotta start saving 20 years in advance.

    (Im guessing this is the US and also seeing this banner just gave me that thought)

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  • [+] 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yeah I think something that people who didn't grow up upper middle class in the US don't realize is that a good chunk of the kids who grew up upper middle class in the US have this weird relationship with their parents where their parents refused to accept them into their economic class, or at least refused to acknowledge their children are entering a completely different life experience and economic class than they did.

    I think it stems from a sense that their quality of life as people living the american dream enshittified over their entire lifetime and now the only way out of it is to admit they have built a way of seeing the world that is utterly blind to the most critical things and they simply refuse to do that, full stop.

    (I don't mean this is as "feel bad for us upper middle class kids" at all, no pity needed... I am simply pointing out how fucking weird it is, how hollow the whole american experience is even sometimes for the children of successful parents, it emphasises how the US pysche really is a pathology.)

    There will never be a generation of humans that will do more damage to Earth and the future lives of human beings than upper-middle class boomers, it simply won't be possible without the extinction of humanity. If any future generation does it will lead to the extinction of the human species, and if any generation before us betrayed the human species as deeply we simply wouldn't be here to talk about it as we would already be extinct.

    I know focusing on it as a generational thing isn't helpful in a lot of ways, I recognize that and I don't blindly hate boomers or anything, I love talking to people older than me they often have so much wisdom to learn (and often have transmuted that wisdom into a killer humor too) I just wish there were more of those older people and less of the older people that I have learned I have to actively not listen to because their advice/help is so unhelpful it is worse than nothing by a margin as wide as climate change is dire.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I fled from one parent before 18 and managed to basically force my estranged father into taking me in but the only reason I didn't get kicked out at 18 by him was because I had 2 months of school left, was gone the second that wasn't true anymore (both Gen X).

    He recently lamented to me that I didn't visit often after that and figures I must have hated living with him so much that I chose to avoid him.
    God they are so fucking oblivious to how they make the world a miserable place.

    He said he wanted to teach his new kid more resilience than me. God help them.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Oh yikes at that last bit. I hate how few parents seem to understand that the basis of resilience is support. It begins at a young age, you let them go get hurt and come crying to their parents who patch their injuries, tell them that they were brave and tough, and let them feel comfortable venturing out again. You scale it up as they get older, so they know that they're encouraged to seek the boundaries of their world and abilities independently, and that when they fail they have people who can help if they need it.

    Trying to "toughen up" a kid so often just scars them and encourages an unhealthy relationship with risk (and with their parents)

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    ah yes the PMC class, professional management consultants. its funny because the PMCs themselves are being tricked by the owners into thinking that they are also owners and not workers. So why should they bother organizing with the riffraff?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Let's face it, the people dumb enough to buy one of these probably aren't raising college material.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    The Micheal Jordan meme has entered the chat.fk them kids- Michael Jordan

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    To be fair, there's a good chance that there isn't much of a future for kids cuase you know ..... gestures to everything

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Targeting that mid life crisis dad.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    A car is cheaper than most colleges.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This ad seems aimed at people who think you can still "work your way through college" without debt.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Sooooo. Middle aged people? Or are we now dealing with those going into retirement.

    I think I'm technically "middle aged" now.... No idea how that happened... But I know better than to think you can work your way through college and not come out the other side with a crushing amount of debt....

    My country subsidized my education, and provided me with a loan to attend college. I finally paid it off some 20-ish years after I started college.

    I've never seen a six-figure salary, despite probably being owed one, but the top rate I can find for my vocation in my local area is around $80k/yr or about 50-60k USD/yr.

    Yet, if I go to the USA, and get the exact same job, I can make $80k+ USD, which would easily push me over $100k/yr in my country's currency.

    If you guessed I'm from Canada, you may have looked at my username, and noted my home Lemmy instance.

    International students pay something like 5x what Canadian citizens do for college/uni (at least they did, the last time I checked), and my local provincial government set up a student assistance program, which provides loans to college/uni students.

    I still walked out of college with over $40k in debt and this was in the mid 2000s. Costs have only gone up.

    I support student loan forgiveness. It won't help me at all, but I don't really want anyone else to have to go through what I did trying to pay everything back.

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  • [+] 25 points 1 year ago (12 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I don’t align with the fuckcars movement.

    Why is that, and what would you suggest we do to improve its appeal? I recognize that we're sort of the radical fringe of urbanism and that's on purpose (a radical fringe is necessary for any movement, in order to make the moderates look moderate), but within that bound I am interested in trying to develop as much credibility as possible.

    (Feel free to PM me if you'd prefer to answer without inviting a public debate, and thanks in advance for any feedback you're willing to give!)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I’m in the same boat. I’m here because I want to discuss things related to transit, walkability, better quality of life, renewable energy and new technology: there’s so much we can do to improve people’s lives while also being easier on the planet and cost less.

    I’m not frustrated by cars, but more that cars are the only goal. From my experiences the best we can hope for in most places is less need of personal cars. It even gives us a continuing goal: however car dependent we are now, how can we be less so?

    This tends to come out in discussions, for example, on parking minimums. While I agree we need to waste less real estate on parking, home and park-n-rides are different. The reality is people in the US are not giving up their cars any time soon. Let them keep them at home while giving them better options. Let them drive to transit while we improve the transit network.

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  • [+] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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    I'm sorry. (from a gX)

    I'm not typical. I was one of the nerds even the nerds bullied on, and this was the hey-day of the jocks and nerds paradigm.

    When George W. Bush started torturing, I thought that's not the America I was raised to believe in and opened some books (on moral philosophy and history) and started my journey to becoming a raging far-left communist.

    By the time we were learning about years-long crunching in video games development, I realized that our capitalists can't even follow their own rules. Id est, the facts were not informing the hypothesis.

    Nowadays, I see the species as primitive hominids who bomb other countries and strip away civil rights based on feels and vibes, or in other words, can't follow rational instruction when we have the power to choose to not, and this is likely going to kill us.

    Maybe some other animal can evolve complex social relationships and do better, or be less susceptible to selfish interests of a few subverting the community of many.

    Yes, I'm bitter.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    one of my gen x friends told me "i dont really care about the science of climate change, i dont believe it so its not happening."

    ....and i just couldnt even.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    When people say shit like that I really want to just piss on them and tell them I don't believe I'm pissing on them so it's obviously not happening.

    It's mind boggling how many people exist that insist reality is wrong. As if just wishing or believing something hard enough will magically make that the truth.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Gen X here. I think I deeply care for my children, and will probably go to dept to fund my children tertiary education, because I could afford it any other way. And I live in a country where college is free, but still needs money to fund the rest (rent, food etc.) That bagging and tagging shouldn't be a one size fits all

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    They have to do that, if they acknowledge how many of their own gen are the same they would be sad.

    It's not a generation, it's a type of person, and they have always been here, will always be here.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Also genx and I’ll “plant that tree that I’ll never see the shade of”. After having kids, I’m much more interested in long term livability and quality of life issues than when I had a shorter term outlook.

    I did hesitate with college though - my younger one got into an expensive private school but at my age and economic situation I just can’t see adding more debt. They’ll have to be satisfied with public universities or deal with their own debt

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  • Someone actually did think of the children. Not in a good way, though.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's probably the worst ad I've ever seen.

    So anyway, I'm buying foreign.

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    I went to public university in , and not only was it free but we got a monthly allowance. It wasn’t some subpar education, I managed to get a 6-figure salary working in the US for a Fortune 200 company until I decided to move back earlier this year.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Next thing you gonna tell me highschoolers working part-time during schooldays like they do in US is not much accepted in because they are encouraged to study.

    And then you are gonna tell me "I don't want 16 year olds to be making as much money as me" doesn't come up in mimimum wage arguments.

    And then you are gonna take it up a step and even tell me religious people including Muslim priests especially support this as having Nobel-candidate Muslim scientists in their community helps a lot.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    @Davriellelouna Oh, but it is very important to have this kind of car.You see, if an idiot is walking down a street and shouting that he is an idiot, how far can people hear him? Maybe a 100 meters if the street is not noisy.But with a loud exhaust and screeching tires, that message can have much further reach.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Just to cut off the rage bait. This would have to be at least a 4-5 year old sign. They stopped selling the GT350R in 21 I think. So this car is not readily available to buy anymore. And it’s worth even more now. It’s just a silly joke. There’s like maybe a nine hundred GT350R’s in existence. I would rather the Mach1 with the track attack package. But I enjoy my Gen3 Coyote in my 2019 GT. I barely drive it as it is and usually take my eBike everywhere. I only have a eBike because of spinal nerve damage. I can go for hours on it. Where a normal bike wears me out by the first hour.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The Mustang has been the car of choice for mid-life crises for a long time.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Corvette is mid-life crisis, Mustang is what enlisted military get

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Tbf I have more respect for enthusiast car ownership than many other types of cars.

    I walk most places, take the train and limit the use of my own car. (mazda6 estate) Hard to do now that I have a three year old.

    I would love an El Camino with an 400hp xl engine. A completely useless car that will be mostly tinkering and some summer driving. A Shelby is a nice car, and if cars are a hobby I say go for it.

    I have more issues with oversized cars clogging up my town on what could have been done with a bike or by foot

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  • Yay Capitalism!

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I do not understand the concept of parents paying for college anyway. Mine didn’t have the means to do that and I didn’t want them to stress over having to do it, so I did it myself.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    did it myself

    Can't be done here.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Where is here? For reference I’m in the US. I did a combination of applying for a load of scholarships and grants, coupled with working while in college and then paying the rest off over time. It sucked.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I also took care of my own college costs, but I can see how cost growth has far exceeded the general inflation rate and federal aid has been shrinking, to put that out of reach.

    Also I benefited from a significant scholarship from my Dad’s employer, and that kind of thing just doesn’t exist anymore. There aren’t any for my kids to reach for

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The real problem is that college is over priced. Again you people keep focusing on the wrong problem.

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