It’s a hot summer afternoon. I’m sitting down on a hot afternoon, with a burger, and a cold beer.

What I’m looking for is something to replace that cold beer with. I want it to be crisp and fresh, but also not sweet. I love tart and bitter flavours. Unfortunately, my options are either cold and sweet, cold and alcoholic or hot and non sweet.

So threadiverse, what alternatives am I missing?

Tereré is great, but it’s a bit of a pain to source in Australia. What else is there?

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[–] 43 points 11 months ago (4 children)

There isn't really anything that tastes like beer other than beer. As others have said, the non-alcoholic versions have gotten pretty good over the last few years.

I'm also quite partial to unsweetened iced tea. Just make a very strong tea and pour it over ice and chill, optionally add lemon juice to taste.

Cold brew coffee is also quite nice, but personally, I prefer that one as a sweet drink mixed with sweetened condensed milk.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Unsweetened ice tea is great. If you want to drink a lot of it you can brew a pot and leave it in the fridge overnight for the next day with two containers you can just swap them out whenever one gets empty.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You also don't need to brew hot tea. I prefer cold brewing, using about 8 tea bags per gallon. Just refrigerate for about 12 hours, or longer to taste if you like it stronger. I've done this with black teas (I love Red Rose for iced tea), sencha green tea, and oolong (my favorite).

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    Would also highly recommend kombucha.

    Cold, fizzy, relatively healthy as it's mostly tea by default with probiotics, and you can change up the flavor. The default is kinda tart and vinegary, but then you add (or buy) fruit or herb flavors and you can really find what you personally love.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    This. There's a passion fruit and hop kombucha that is great for me. I don't drink during the week and that's my go to 'treat'.

    I mainlt drink carbonized water with a bit of citron juice.

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    This right here. Some are very bad, but there are some really good ones around these days. Guinness for example tastes almost identical to real Guinness.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    On the days when I'm really just hanging out for, and worked a really sweaty, dirty day on the chainsaws, I drink N/A beer. The cheapest I can find. It either hits the spot or it tastes like garbage and turns me off beer again. Either way it averts the craving and lets me stay sober. Most alcos in recovery will frown on N/A beer, but I don't care, whatever helps me not drink alcohol is fair game.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    Unsweet iced tea

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I have been enjoying sparkling water flavored with hops. It's distinctly different from non-alcoholic beer, and much better IMO.

    Unsweetened iced tea and cold brew coffee are also standards in my kitchen during summer. My significant other likes kombucha enough to make it at home sometimes, but I never liked the stuff myself.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 11 months ago*

    sparkling water flavored with hops

    I just got some of this today! I haven't tried it yet, but the guy at the bottle shop said it's what he has when he feels like a beer, but doesn't want a beer!

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  • [+] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    If the alcohol is the problem, there's a lot of non-alcoholic beers available in Australia these days.

    Possibly a nitro cold brew? I don't know if you'd consider that a good pairing with a burger, though!

    Maybe a switchel, if you make it yourself and don't sweeten it too much, leaving it mostly tart.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    Rye kvass, Kombucha

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    If you are willing to make it yourself, kvass or ginger beer, those can be dry and sparkling. Water kefir or kombucha. All very, very low in alcohol, not intoxicating. Chinotto soda is something I buy for dry months too.

    As someone else said, tonic water has a bitter edge that really hits the spot, I make a sweet non alcoholic cocktail called the Friend Zone, made with strawberry tepache (strawberry fruit kvass), lime, and tonic water, and I swear everyone thinks it's a boozy cocktail. Too sweet for what you are looking for here but it's certainly the tonic pulling most of the weight.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    Gaspacho? At least it is cool and savory...

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Personally, I like just plain seltzer water. (i.e. just carbonated water with nothing added.) Mixing it with a bit of plain (unsweetened) cranberry juice is good too if you want something more flavorful.

    Chilled barley tea is another good hot weather drink. It was a summertime staple when I was in Japan.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    how about NA beer? Everything you want and nothing you don't.

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    Water kefir is a great alternative. You can buy it in organic shops or make it at home. The hardest part would be to source grains but once you get them started, as long as you take care of them they last forever.

    It's tart, fizzy, refreshing, has flavors reminiscent of some wild fermentation sours, and can be flavored with almost any fruit after transfer (and probably hops too).

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    A ginger beer, tastes nothing like beer and is a real pickme up.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    Ginger beer is tits. It's expensive around here, so sometimes I'll make a fresh ginger syrup (which stays good in the fridge forever) and add a few tablespoons to seltzer water. It's basically the same thing and very refreshing!

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Our parents used to make ginger beer when I was a kid. There was a "starter", some kind of yeast? Then a raisin or two in each bottle, and of course ginger. Every now and then you'd hear one of the bottles explode. The surviving bottles were delicious, effervescent and spicy, not too sweet.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    The best starter for ginger beer is "ginger bug"

    Start with 2 big spoonfuls each of (grated) ginger and sugar in 2 cups of water. Stir it twice daily and feed it once a day, alternating

    Day 1, spoonful of sugar

    Day 2, spoonful of sugar and spoonful of grated ginger.

    Here it gets active in a couple of days but better to keep feeding and stirring for a week. Use a cup of the liquid to ferment a gallon of ginger beer and save another cup tightly covered in a refrigerator to start your next batch, so it will go faster.

    You can make it with yeast but it doesn't taste as good and is fussier.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Thank you!! I might try that one day...

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Oh, a note - in the US I have to use organic ginger for ginger beer, all the rest of it must have been irradiated or had some hotshot anti-everything spray because only organic ferments.

    Not for any other ferment I make is this true, only ginger. Tepache, fruit kvass, sourdough, I use conventionally grown stuff. I'm not sure this holds true everywhere but if it doesn't work, get organic ginger.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Sparkling water with pickle juice. Add bitters if you want different flavors.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    There's lots of dry / tart option, especially if you like tonic water and that dry quinine taste. Add a dash of citrus or bitters and it's not much more trouble than a beer. There's also some intresting non alcoholic herbal 'spirits' that bring complex (and often dry / bitter) flavours, and could be used to make something nice with tonic or plain soda water.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    My go-to social drink is a club soda with a twist of lime

    It is simple, cheap and has the added benefit of sort of looking like it might be a vodka club or gin and tonic.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    80% Unsweetened iced tea, 20% lemonade. Play with the ratios. (the classic Arnold Palmer is 50/50 but that's too sweet for me.)

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    Alas, I'm allergic to black tea :\

    Other teas taste nice, but I've yet to find one that has a strong enough taste for me.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Hibiscus tea is amazing! Agua de Jamaica

    Very good on a summer day with strong flavors

    "This delicious and refreshing hibiscus tea is a staple Mexican agua fresca (it’s right up there with horchata and agua de tamarindo), loved for its tart, slightly sweet flavor and stunning color."

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    What about a kind of cocktail with at most 20% red wine filled with sparkling water?

    It sounds weird, I agree, but it has few calories, is refreshing, is tasty and may remain cheap enough as you do not need a great wine for it.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Everyone is recommending just stuff that's not sweet, but you asked for savory.

    Beef Fizz Search YouTube for videos of it.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Oh, yes, also cold black tea (no ice, no lemon, just nice slightly bitter taste. Also nice because the taste is not really fighting with the taste of whatever you eat

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    If you want a savory drink, I recommend soup broth.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Unsweetened, iced, mint tea.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Beef broth, mmmm savory!

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Malt beer or even better Kvass

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Cold fruit teas sound like they could be good for ya

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    [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Tonic water is your friend. Works for both low-alcohol options (bitters, preferably citrus bitters but you can experiment) and boozy ones (G&Ts are obviously a classic, whiskey tonics are pretty nice sometimes, herbal liqueurs work very well, etc.)

    Often when I'm out and want another drink, but don't want to keep drinking, plain tonic water is the preferred choice recently. I got 99 problems, but malaria ain't one 😎.

    Beyond that, you can look into the wild world of drinking shrubs.. Haven't been arsed to try it yet but I like the concept.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I tried switching to gin and tonics at one point, and they are good, but I ended up looking up how many calories I might be saving, and realized a g/t had the same amount of calories as a rum and coke.

    I hadn't realized there was sugar content like that in tonic. But I did get a nice dance with a friendly brunette while drinking a g/t. Come to think of it that may be the only reason I was drinking g/t's...

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I haven't seen it mentioned in here, but switchel is a favorite of mine. Water, Apple cider vinegar, some kind of sweetener (molasses is traditional), and ginger. Pretty easy to make a pitcher of during the summer. Tart, and hits the spot in the summer. You can also utilize a shrub for some NA mocktails.

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    [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Sekanjabin is an Iranian vinegar-based drink that's easy to make and stays good in the fridge as a concentrate for a long time.

    My favorite kind is made with strawberries, honey, and apple cider vinegar.

    Refreshing, sweet, and sour. Water it down to taste when serving.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Try Nimbu Pani! It's an Indian drink that hits the tart and slightly savory points. May be annoying to get black salt though.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Not sure about availability or price in AU, but I like "hoplark" non alcoholic beer. Their IPAs are awesome.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Ginger soda. You can use a ginger bug to ferment soda. You can add flavors to make different varieties or you can just do the ginger base.

    Its refreshing and good for you. Does have like up to a half percent alcohol... But nothing that will be inebriating.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Tonic and Angustura on ice, with a splash of lemon. I put a dab of sugar sometimes.

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    Sugar free ginger ale

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 11 months ago

    Both? Basically, I'm looking for nice refreshing drinks I can drink over summer that aren't predominantly sweet.

    Nothing wrong with alcoholic drinks, but they're a "sometimes" drink, not an "all the time" drink :)

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    I don’t know if you can get it in Australia but I like Spindrift seltzer/sparkling water when I want a beer substitute. Obviously it doesn’t taste like beer. I was someone who hated seltzer for a long time, none of it tasted right and too fruity but also somehow not enough since its just sparkling water. Someone recommended Spindrift since they use real fruit so it has some real flavor but it’s still low in calories. I’m partial to the grapefruit flavor because it’s the most tart/crisp.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Along the same lines, I think, I don't know what Spindrift is, but when my hubs went sober, he started drinking 100% grapefruit juice with Seltzer (usually grapefruit flavored seltzer) on ice. He says it tastes just like IPA with it's bitter notes. Probably a 1:2 ratio of juice:seltzer

    So if you can't get Spindrift, you can still make something similar!

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Spindrift is the brand but it’s basically what you described, unsweetened fruit juice with sparkling water. I think the ratio is a little different but exact same idea. I like the flavor of beer but I just need the tartness and the bubbles to be happy.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I’m a huge iced tea fan.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    My go-to fave is Peroni 0.0%

    Not sure it's available in Australia, but it's really good NA beer imo. Someone else mentioned hop water. It's more like soda, at least to me, but similarly bright and v fizzy

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Have you tried a Shandy? It's beer mixed with lemonade or orange juice. It's delicious.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Tonic water and lime is probably my favorite combo. Sometimes, I'll even add gin.

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    The classic margarita. Tequila, Cointreau, lime juice, and just a little bit of sweetener to take the edge off the acidity, or omit it altogether. Serve over ice.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Schwepes bitter lemon?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Guinness Zero is the "closest tasting to the original" non-alcoholic beer I've found so far. Don't know if its available in Oz but its worth a try.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Aperol Spritz?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Non alcoholic radler? (Beer diluted with soda lemon - it is said that a brewery in munchen had too many cyclists one day and not enough beer to serve everyone, so in order to maximize profits and avoid leaving money on the table he decided to scam them by diluting the beer with lemon juice and saying "it's less alcoholic so it's perfect for you cyclists 😉" - and somehow they liked it instead of getting pissed)

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I don't understand what you mean by "not beer".

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Have a shrub. It's flavor infused apple cider vinegar and sparkling water. You can buy or make the vinegar and just use other flavors and sweetened for the bubbles

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Hits the spot especially with fatty foods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayran

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    Subcontinental:

    • gin
    • Cointreau
    • cucumber juice
    • lime juice
    • simple syrup

    For a non-alcoholic drink, suerta:

    • 3 limes (preferably Mexican or Key limes)
    • Coarse kosher salt
    • Chilled sparkling water
    • Ice
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