Seems the country is not aligned with the views on Lemmy.

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[–] 109 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

It isn't the consensual sex, it is the context of Putin potentially having pics and Epstein being fully aware of it and the blackmail that goes along with that. Plus Trump is a fragile narcissist so keeping it in the news is funny.

Also how personal Trump's hate for Hilary definitely has jealous lover overtones now.

I don't think anyone but his homophobic followers thinks negatively about the BJ itself.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Intelligent people are worried about the blackmail context of the emails, but intelligent people never supported Trump, so this is just another reason to hate him and a new reason to be worried. Among Trump's core supporters, homophobia is a critical issue, it has always been a major topic for the Trump admin. Previously the Epstein files were just about pedophilia, and conservative states have always taken a softer stance on the topic with things like child marriage.

    There may be more important things to the story, but where voters can be swayed, the big story is "Trump did something gay."

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Polls suggest that this is a minority position. Just because it makes sense to you and me doesn't mean that's where most people are. 😟

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    I think it’s the fact that Trump acts and surrounds himself with homophobic people so the idea of him giving head to his enemy he’s openly complained about is hilarious to no end. That and the actual implications with Putin holding the photos over his head.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    It's always sex stuff that gets Americans worked up.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It's fascinating that a country where a place like Hooters is normal and strip clubs are a socially acceptable place to hang out in is so worked up over sex things

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    American pop culture is fine with sex as long as it's not two men:

    ✅ Woman kissing a woman
    ✅ Woman kissing a man
    ✅ Woman having sex with a woman
    ✅ Woman having sex with a man
    ✅ Woman having sex with herself
    ✅ Man kissing a woman (already covered)
    ❌ Man kissing a man
    ✅ Man having sex with a woman (already covered)
    ❌ Man having sex with a man
    ✅ Man having sex with himself

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think that's changed a bit. Hooters went bankrupt, and many local governments have heavy restrictions on strip clubs, such as no nipples can be shown, no physical contact, no license to serve liquor, etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And that just makes the whole deal weirder. No physical contact is reasonable of course. But have a person be practically naked, dancing sensually is fine, unless there's nipples. Can't have that, it's too much.

    The US is very weird.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I think the laws are just meant as a soft-ban. There may be legal complications with outright banning strip clubs. The no physical contact takes away what I think make up stripper's largest income source, and no nipples and alcohol makes it a less attractive place to go. I had a few hours to waste in a city once, waiting on a flight, and walked into one of these strip clubs. There was only one stripper there, one bartender, and I was the only customer; so I'm guessing it really did hurt the market.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    America has, since inception, been absolutely fine with violence, often celebrating it, and completely disgusted with sexuality. It's perhaps the single most backwards thing about North American culture, imo.

    But what do you expect out of a society whose entire history is "we wanted to go somewhere else, so we came to this place and killed the natives that got in our way."

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Which polls?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Let's just take the W on this one, ok?

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Hey now... Nothing ever said or implied it was consensual. For all we know Bubba didn't want Donald to suck his dick.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Like always in America, it seems, there is a racist undertone, as the name Bubba is also the African American man that sexually abuses people in prison.

    The mail exchange between the Epstein brothers mentiones the film 'Get Hard' where a rich businessman prepares for prison by asking his afro American neighbor. The training includes hooking up with a gay person to train on oral sex, but the lead character choses not to go through with that.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Consent is important. Like, above all else. But also, if a woman wanted to suck my dick, like any time, for any reason, no matter the surroundings... I'm in. Wait, I just gave consent!

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not an American, but here's how I see it: It's ammo.

    To Trump supporters, deporting immigrants is seen as a good thing that he's doing. But they also usually have a staunch anti-LGBTQ stance. Trump blowing a dude, regardless of if this bubba is or isn't Bill Clinton, goes pretty hard against their stances. If there's ever plausible evidence, it might be what makes Trump supporters see him for what he is to the rest of the world: a bumbling, lying idiot.

    Putin potentially having such evidence further escalates this into yet another indicator that Trump might be playing his nation into Russia's hands.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Thinking that Lemmy is representative of anything besides Lemmy is at least a little funny to me, I'm sorry. If it was a representation of the country, then Putin might have a good shot running for president.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Woah woah woah, don't you go lumping me in with the goofballs over in .ml

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    But those goofballs are the ones who created and maintain Lemmy.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And? Shitty people create and maintain a good portion of the world. They aren't wholly representative of the users of their product.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Soo, umh I woke up today in Europe with al the memes about blow jobs and Trump.. But I've not seen any post about origin of the memes.

    Can anyone point me to any sources?

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Its one of 20k+ emails house Republicans released to try to drown out the 3 emails Democrats released related to Trump.

    I think they thought they could flood the zone and forgot that Americans can't afford hobbies right now so we have oodles of free time and AI.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Nobody confirmed it was consensual or with a guy tbf. Could have been that horse

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    What if it's the horse? Still probably not on the same level. What if it wasn't consensual? Now it gets trickier...

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The issue is that Americans on the Left would be offended to learn that their political leader was a complete hypocrite, so they assume that Americans on the right would feel the same way. Meanwhile, the truth is that Americans on the Right only pretend to have moral standards, while in actuality, they will simply follow their leaders regardless of what they do.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    so they assume that Americans on the right would feel the same way

    Hum... They seem to be reacting quite strongly to finding out their leader is a hypocrite.

    They just care about him being a hypocrite on different things.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    It ain't zesty with your bestie

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    American whites, raping children is a o k. but consensual same sex between adults is wrong?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's disgusting to contemplate, but between Dershowitz and Megyn Kelly's recent comments, I'm starting to think that MAGAs don't really think of anyone over the age of 14 as "children." 😡

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yep, they pivoted from "He isn't a pedophile" as a denial of him raping minors to "He isn't a pedophile" as a denial that raping minors is pedophilia.

    Republicans were always the pro pedophilia party though. look at all the laws that allow adult men to marry and rape children. https://www.walkfree.org/news/2025/child-marriage-remains-legal-in-the-united-states-as-global-leaders-backtrack-on-gender-equality/

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Black people voted for trump even harder. Glass house much?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    This isn't even close to being true. 83% of black voters backed Harris in 2024, with 15% voting for Trump. That's notable because it's a significant decrease from Biden receiving 92% of the black vote, but whites are the only major racial group of which the majority voted for Trump in 2024.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    "Even harder" is relative (to Biden, for instance), which your data just confirms.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    He's not wrong though?

    Was the % points change since 2016 and/or 2020 higher among black folks compared to white folks in the 2025 US election or not?

    I don't think this is racism, though I appreciate I don't get to make claims on what and what is not, and I don't do this to point fingers, but if we are to move forward we gotta start with solid facts, including about uncomfortable things like that. I'm happy to admit I am wrong if I am and apologize.

    If my folk - LGBT people - voted for Trump more than straights, I would not go directly to finger-pointing and nastiness either, I would start asking some pretty tough questions to myself tho.

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  • [+] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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    Yeah, libs have been very open about homophobia and ableism since Trump was elected and they had a crisis that warranted a suspension of the performance. Statistically, we know most men in the US are complacent with or perpetrators of sexual violence and a significant amount -- even the majority in some places -- fetishize youth and teen women. For Americans, it really is more reputation destroying to have done queer shit than to be a rapist pedophile (this includes "ephebophiles," sorry).

    They're not going to get mad about racism and genocide, it isn't even going to be on their minds because they don't actually oppose the underlying values that facilitate those policies currently. They will make a show of anti-racism and constitution protection so long as it remains a rhetorical response exclusively.

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