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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

It's clear to me from the very start of this video that Microsoft is incentivizing people to stuff this shit into their product any way they can. I also assume that they're tracking basically everything you do in their software using analytics of some kind, and people accidentally clicking those stupid icons counts as copilot usage to the other suits.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Oh wow this is truly disgusting. It's rare to find a feature that is so badly designed that it disgusts you. Annoyed or frustrated? Sure. Enraged even. But I feel like I want to throw up after watching 20 seconds of this video.

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  • [–] 87 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    The word you're looking for is "devolving".

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Evolving backwards would be returning to ergonomic UIs with clear HIG being followed, having a scriptable variant for every class of applications, and any piece of software, OS UI included, not acting as an advert. Contrasts and colors and bright pictures are not what I need to see while working. It's as if your screwdriver was built in the form of an alien fish dildo, and had a chain of ringing bells. Why is this bullshit considered normal and usual with computer interfaces, I dunno.

    And a company's website is its interface to the world, for the user. Not its advert. They've already seen the advert or don't need it if they are on that website! They want to actually use it.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    the irony is that title was probably AI generated.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    He admitted that he had to use AI a little bit after a somewhat broken finger.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What? He kinda broke a finger and then suddenly needed to use AI? His one bad finger prevented him using the other 9? He couldn't speech-to-text it?

    Or did AI break his finger to get him to make the video?!

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    There is a video for you to watch and get the context.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm not clicking on what looks like an AI slop YouTube video just to find out why a guy making a video about AI needed to use AI to make the video. Beyond seeing clippy for nostalgia, seeing that it's likely a video about MS I care even less.

    If you actually thought it was a video of value, you could have written (or just copy/pasta) a description of the video and why it might be of interest.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    That would make sense if evolution had a direction. But evolution can favor less complexity just as well as more: it depends on the selective pressures it's under. "Fittest" is not necessarily "best."

    This applies metaphorically to marketed products as well as literally to biologiccal systems. It's not inevitable that the marketplace will deliver progress. You might never get that invisible handjob.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago

    "Looks like you’re trying to be productive. Let me correct that for you"

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    It's simple - if your product or platform uses dark patterns, I will not use it. I will even use an inferior platform or product in order to be free to choose how I use my software.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    What do you mean by dark patterns?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Design that is in the interest of someone other than the user, intended to coerce or trick the user into behaviors that benefit that non-user at the user's expense.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Examples:

    • Microtransactions instead of asking for the price up-front
    • Using gambling mechanics in non-gambling games (e.g. loot boxes)
    • Eliminating potential stopping points in the user interaction, like e.g. endless scrolling instead of pagination
    • Using big, visually engaging buttons for the actions they want the user to perform ("Accept tracking") while using tiny, grey links for the actions they don't want the user to perform ("Reject tracking"), or even worse, hiding the action they don't want the user to perform behind multiple menues.
    • Using wording that creates fear or other negative emotions to stop users from performing such actions ("If you cancel your subscription now, you will lose access to this, this, and that. Everything you did will be lost. Do you really want to do that?")
    • Disguising ads and other non-organic content as organic content. ("I found this product and it cured my hair loss, my potency issues and made me rich at the same time! sponsored ad")
    • Disguising ads as notifications
    • Disguising ads as the download button
    • Agreeing to do one simple action contains a hidden agreement to a ton of other things

    And many more things like that.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I will, if I have no other option. Say, finding a working VPN service in Russia ... sucks (mostly banned). I think I'll end up with a VDS and an https tunnel.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    No, I can't rent a Ukrainian VDS, it might even get me to jail.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's not evolving backwards. It's being carefully crafted to turn into exactly what corporations wanted from the beginning but couldn't do due to technical and legal limitations.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Add societal limitations as well. We used to relegate software to the dustbin when it sucked in the early days. Nowadays, people seem mostly fine being practically forced to use ever shittier products and services.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's also devolving, having less features, being slower/less optimised and so on. Cramming "AI" into it isn't devolving, it's enshitification

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    You are mistaking the direction of evolution. Software started out with as much freedom as the hardware could afford.

    In the 80s you ran your program in real mode (or whatever the equivalent mode was on your hardware). No kernel, no OS, nothing in the way. The software ran on bare metal with the ability to do literally anything the computer could.

    In the 90s and early 2000s, safety features were introduced, but customizability was still king. Remember how you could accidentally remove some toolbar from Eclipse and never find the way to get it back? That kind of UI was considered normal back then.

    You had stuff like the BlackBox system that allowed the user to customize the UI like a developer. The user could not only move buttons and other UI elements wherever they wanted, but they could also create their own and use scripting to make them do whatever they wanted.

    Then came the iPhone and Windows 8, and from then on the target became simplification. The downside of the customizability of yesteryear was that things could get complicated and that most users didn't use or even want these systems. Getting back to the Eclipse example, it was incredibly common back then, that people accidentally closed part of the UI and never found a way to get it back. So that's when the minimalisation and "less is more" mentality came in. They moved everything that wasn't used all the time into submenus and to a certain extent, it kinda worked.

    But of course, with MBAs being MBAs, stuff like adding AI buttons to force people to use the next big monetizable thing became more and more prevalent.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Clippy didn’t hallucinate. I think Clippy wins

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    "Looks like you're writing a letter"

    No I'm not, fuck off Clippy.

    Turns out we just hadn't coined the term for computer intelligence being wrong as hallucinating yet.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You know what, I think I remember that. You’re right. My bad

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Clippy still wins though because you could have him duck off.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So is my edc to match it lmao.

    Phones are locking down and getting harder to get rom and root support and a lot of projects are either giving up or dying.

    Welp! Back to the laptop I go! Been carrying it with me everywhere just like I did before I got a smartphone. The only duties my phone needs to do is make calls, answer SMS and RCS and tether.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    The concept of a desktop assistant has always been there.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    "Maybe if we manipulate people enough, it will make us money"

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Maybe we’ve been pushing way too hard, way too fast into the age of technology being integrated into our every waking moment, bros.

    I’m ready to go back to like an iPhone 5 level of technology and Windows 7. Just wish it was realistic.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    24/7 connectivity was a mistake. I miss that brief window when we had cheap supercomputers in our pockets, but data was still expensive.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don’t want internet to be expensive but like..I wish we’d go back to dumb phones and computers maybe. Kinda like an early 2000s vibe.

    Cause if you look at 2025 vs 2000 or even 2005, we’re honestly insanely different in terms of technology in such a short span. Just feels like too much too fast imo. Like maybe we DON’T need technology incorporated into every aspect of our lives.

    The scariest thing is - we’re from a generation where we remember a life before this. Gen Alpha and whatever comes after will only ever know an internet connected life. How do you explain this to someone like that?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    what did they do to ma boi Clippy

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Exemplified by this being a rant in a video with sponsorships tacked on the description and comments. Probably in the video too, but obviously I'm not going to watch it.

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    [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I cant opt out at work...So thats nice. I wish they let us use linux at my job.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I hate my work laptop lol. Windows truly sucks more than ever now

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Its so bad. To do the same stuff you did 10 years ago, you need a computer with 4x the specs for Windows 11 + AI chip and everything is a subscription. meanwhile Ive upgraded my linux laptop once and it runs about 10x with the newest of software updates, steam, etc...etc... Libreoffice is much easier to use than MS products now.

    The worst part is you cant opt out of windows AI. It sends your data along no matter what.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Every time that I touch Windows, my doubts about whether I waste my time with Linux immediately get obliterated by reality. Today, I helped someone crop a video, so I opened ClipChamp, a Fisher Price googoogaga pathetic excuse of an attempt at video editing software. The lack of features wasn't even what bothered me most, it was the COOKIE BANNER ON PREINSTALLED GODDAMN SOFTWARE FOR EDITING VIDEOS OFFLINE. If Microsoft actually had to compete with someone else, suicide rates would fall back to pre-industrial levels.

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It's not enough to make it available as an option somewhere so it's there when you need it, they need accidental clicks to inflate metrics.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    And they don't let you opt out ewww

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